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[151st Light Horse Regiment]

I dont think there is, at least nothing that will give you more than about 10 or 15 shots.

Just want to confirm if anyone could get it to work? I've tired a DD jager and Phract and its a no-no.

[Carrioncrows]

Muromets

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c70c74a91223df8

30 rounds per gun

Edited by Carrioncrows, 06 October 2013 - 01:02 PM.

[Simbacca]

Ilya Muromets with a XL225 engine with 1 extra heatsink could mount 3 AC10s with 3 tons ammo....

[151st Light Horse Regiment]

Thats like, 45 shots. Pfft, not worth it.

[Dexion]

Simbacca, on 06 October 2013 - 12:54 PM, said:

Ilya Muromets with a XL225 engine with 1 extra heatsink could mount 3 AC10s with 3 tons ammo....

Which is no where near enough ammo. Now, 3LBX with 6-8 tons of ammo.. that's more manageable.

Yea, 3 AC10 has been my dream load out sense mid closed beta (I used Ac10's before they were cool lol)

[MadMaxMKII]

Ilya, 200XL, 2 extra DHS, 3xAC10, 6t ammo
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...62bb535776e79b0

snap some more armor away for one extra ton of ammo.

Edited by MadMaxMKII, 06 October 2013 - 01:07 PM.

[General Taskeen]

Yeah, this:

[NRP]

Dexion, on 06 October 2013 - 01:01 PM, said:

(I used Ac10's before they were cool lol)

Were AC/10s ever cool? Worst ballistic in the game imo.

But it does have the coolest reload sound.

[627]

NRP, on 06 October 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

Were AC/10s ever cool? Worst ballistic in the game imo.

But it does have the coolest reload sound.

It has its niche. If you need a punch and no dps weapon but can't fit a AC20 or Gauss, you go AC10. And 10 Damage every 2.5 secs is something to work with.

[VikingN1nja]

CTF-IM try 39 arms, 40 legs you should get 6 tons of ammo with an xl255.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...094e6e67d84c537

Edited by omegaorgun, 07 October 2013 - 02:14 AM.

[DarkDevilDancer]

I'd kill to get an annihilator in game, 100 tons of ballistic win.

[Bishop Steiner]

NRP, on 06 October 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

Were AC/10s ever cool? Worst ballistic in the game imo.

But it does have the coolest reload sound.

then you are doing it wrong.

AC10s are far and away my most used ballistic. As a standalone they far outperform the LB-X, or UAC, let alone Ac5 or 2. In many cases they are more useful than the AC20 with the extra 500 meters of range, faster projectile and far better ammo consumption. (though as a sneaky backstabber, I freely admit, if I can mount an AC20, I probably will.)

And when paired? They almost always out perform PPCs, and are far more reliable than UACs (jamming) or LBs (spread damage) They do the same damage as PPCs, but at less than 1/3 the heat. And have a better DPS and sustainability, as in a 10 second span, the PPCs can fire twice, for 40 damage and 40 heat. The AC10s have fired 3 times, for 60 damage and 18 heat.
And the more you shoot, the further the sustainable fire spread becomes, with the heat burden and necessary DHS to try to manage (not overcome, simply manage) far making up for the wieght difference and ammo consumption.

Take 2 Catapult K2, one with PPCs, one with AC10s, the AC10 model will beat the PPC version every time. The sole advantage the PPCs K2 has is the ability to go faster, but the AC10 one will have better backup weapons and versatility and DPS. And unlike the Gaussapult, you have no weird fire mechanic, or fragile bombs waiting to go off against your XL engine.

the 2x AC10/ 4x MLaser K2 is one of the best builds for it, period.

IN fact, 2 of my most consistent performers, my Ilya Murdermets and my JM6-S feature 2 AC10 and 2 Mediums, and have regularly broke 800 damage and 3-5 kills, with 1000 pt matches not uncommon.

All things being equal, I'd actually say the AC10s are among the best, most versatile weapons in the game. 10 pt pinpoint damage, 1300 meter range, 2.5 second cooldown and 3 heat. Only downside is weight, but the only guns that outperform it reliably weight even more (and in the case of the AC20 take up more space to boot) and tend to have other factors that make them less versatile, or in the case of PPCs, require so many heat sinks that the weight difference is really non existent.

The only time the PPC is overall the better choice is in medium mechs because they simply don't have the tonnage to devote to dual AC10.

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

AC10's are an interesting mid-range ballistic. Good range (not the best) quick reload, and low heat.

They are surprisingly good in pairs, or packed with a PPC.


If you can't get triple AC10 to work, you can do Double AC10 + PPC. Basically the same thing. Works well on the CTF-3D, Jagers, and K2.

[Bishop Steiner]

mwhighlander, on 07 October 2013 - 06:06 AM, said:

AC10's are an interesting mid-range ballistic. Good range (not the best) quick reload, and low heat.

They are surprisingly good in pairs, or packed with a PPC.


If you can't get triple AC10 to work, you can do Double AC10 + PPC. Basically the same thing. Works well on the CTF-3D, Jagers, and K2.

or if you wan't similar punch but beter heat control, 2x AC10 and 2x MLaser. Not quite the hit at long range, so not quite the Poptart, but actually far more effective a brawler in hot maps, which IMO, is where the Phract shines, up close and personal. Also, with that layout, it's not hard to pack in an XL 340, and having the dual AC10 jackhammer cruising at 86 kph is a very effective Hunter/Killer build.

[Malsumis]

Used to run a Jager with dual AC10, 4 mlas. It worked very well and I like having backup weapons on all my mechs. I will never go with just a straight up ballistic build. Usually you will have enough ammo if you do go without backups, but I dont like to take that chance. That and I am not afraid of running mechs that are a tad hot. It's called heat management.

[Scratx]

Malsumis, on 07 October 2013 - 06:26 AM, said:

Used to run a Jager with dual AC10, 4 mlas. It worked very well and I like having backup weapons on all my mechs. I will never go with just a straight up ballistic build. Usually you will have enough ammo if you do go without backups, but I dont like to take that chance. That and I am not afraid of running mechs that are a tad hot. It's called heat management.

Yeah, there's almost never a good reason to skip out on having at least a pair of lasers.

[DONTOR]

I run it on illya if your conservative everything that comes at you dies in 3-5 volleys 7-12 seconds. I also use 105 rounds.

[MeiSooHaityu]

I run 3 LBX10s, and 3MLasers in the Ilya. Nice setup. I call it "The Street Sweeper"

I will have to look at some of these builds in here and see if I can weasel some additional ammo into the build. I have only 3 tons ammo and it isn't quite enough.

[Bishop Steiner]

DONTOR, on 07 October 2013 - 07:03 AM, said:

I run it on illya if your conservative everything that comes at you dies in 3-5 volleys 7-12 seconds. I also use 105 rounds.

sounds about right. It has served me well. And people don't expect you to be able to move so fast in a Phract.

[151st Light Horse Regiment]

Bishop Steiner, on 07 October 2013 - 05:18 AM, said:

then you are doing it wrong.

AC10s are far and away my most used ballistic. As a standalone they far outperform the LB-X, or UAC, let alone Ac5 or 2. In many cases they are more useful than the AC20 with the extra 500 meters of range, faster projectile and far better ammo consumption. (though as a sneaky backstabber, I freely admit, if I can mount an AC20, I probably will.)

And when paired? They almost always out perform PPCs, and are far more reliable than UACs (jamming) or LBs (spread damage) They do the same damage as PPCs, but at less than 1/3 the heat. And have a better DPS and sustainability, as in a 10 second span, the PPCs can fire twice, for 40 damage and 40 heat. The AC10s have fired 3 times, for 60 damage and 18 heat.
And the more you shoot, the further the sustainable fire spread becomes, with the heat burden and necessary DHS to try to manage (not overcome, simply manage) far making up for the wieght difference and ammo consumption.

Take 2 Catapult K2, one with PPCs, one with AC10s, the AC10 model will beat the PPC version every time. The sole advantage the PPCs K2 has is the ability to go faster, but the AC10 one will have better backup weapons and versatility and DPS. And unlike the Gaussapult, you have no weird fire mechanic, or fragile bombs waiting to go off against your XL engine.

the 2x AC10/ 4x MLaser K2 is one of the best builds for it, period.

IN fact, 2 of my most consistent performers, my Ilya Murdermets and my JM6-S feature 2 AC10 and 2 Mediums, and have regularly broke 800 damage and 3-5 kills, with 1000 pt matches not uncommon.

All things being equal, I'd actually say the AC10s are among the best, most versatile weapons in the game. 10 pt pinpoint damage, 1300 meter range, 2.5 second cooldown and 3 heat. Only downside is weight, but the only guns that outperform it reliably weight even more (and in the case of the AC20 take up more space to boot) and tend to have other factors that make them less versatile, or in the case of PPCs, require so many heat sinks that the weight difference is really non existent.

The only time the PPC is overall the better choice is in medium mechs because they simply don't have the tonnage to devote to dual AC10.

Totally this. Nearly hit 1000 damage for the first time yesterday, using 2ac10's on a Jager, with a Med pulse laser and standard medium laser.

146 shells of AC10 is a lot, the rate of fire and range far exceeds the AC20 and you can engage at any range.