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[pbiggz]

[Jonas]

I wish I had the money to buy The Overlord package now more than ever..... but I more of a Heavy/Medium pilot so where is the Shadowhawk, Thunderbolt.

[MisterPlanetarian]

Right here:

https://pbs.twimg.co...I1KT6.jpg:large

[Sandpit]

Why does the battlemaster have a camel of the toe? Other than that I really like the design. The R&L Torsos could be a bit sleeker looking though. A little softer on the lines and a little "curvier" instead of blocky but the overall design still looks pretty bad ***

Edited by Sandpit, 08 October 2013 - 01:11 PM.

[stinkypuppy]

MisterPlanetarian, on 08 October 2013 - 12:51 PM, said:

Right here:

https://pbs.twimg.co...I1KT6.jpg:large

*mouth watering* holy {Scrap} that thing is AMAZING!!!!!! its cockpit could be a little brighter but its really nice looking as is. but as usual just like all the phoenix mechs so far it looks like a really bad 3D print job (A.K.A. colours are really washed out and has that weird grey "film" over it thats kinda like a cetemeter thick layer of dust). however it looks nice and follows the concept art well. dispite my hatred of the in game battlemaster the shadow hawk is looking pretty good. but as said before i hope they have all their concept art decals in game.

[John MatriX82]

Not bad, I'd like to know the left arm ballistic weapon mount because if it is "above the hand" like the PPC in the RA then this is really going to be a nice toy for brawling.

Not much XL friendly, CT is thin but experienced players will hammer your crotch easy unless you shield it with the legs. Too bad it costs 80$ and I have to wait the next year for it, but seeing the tallness of the SH and the probably uber-bulkyness of the TB (I don't even consider the Locust lol), I'm happy I didn't fell in the Phoenix.

[CycKath]

actually prefer the PPC above the hand, better match for the handgun of the original art.

[Zakie Chan]

Ransack, on 08 October 2013 - 11:47 AM, said:

Thanks.

I'm guessing that the skin is not finished. Concept art looks better than the in game version. What is with the blasted washed out colors on every mech

Didnt you get the memo? Brown adds realism! ... FML

[Karyudo ds]

Maybe someone can point to me where the mech looks wrong but to me it mostly seems to match up to the concept. Moving the PPC of course, though it sort of makes sense. Liked it bottom mounted but works either way. Didn't notice the lip between the laser tiers though it is there...do agree they're dark. The Shadowhawk's limbs seem skinny to me for some reason. Might just be the angle.

Not disappointed though really. Like it better with decals though.

Zakie Chan, on 08 October 2013 - 03:47 PM, said:

Didnt you get the memo? Brown adds realism! ... FML

Must be why my Catapult is covered in mud now...

[Ransack]

Karyudo ds, on 08 October 2013 - 04:25 PM, said:

Maybe someone can point to me where the mech looks wrong but to me it mostly seems to match up to the concept. Moving the PPC of course, though it sort of makes sense. Liked it bottom mounted but works either way. Didn't notice the lip between the laser tiers though it is there...do agree they're dark. The Shadowhawk's limbs seem skinny to me for some reason. Might just be the angle.

Not disappointed though really. Like it better with decals though.



Must be why my Catapult is covered in mud now...

I hope that the skin is unfinished. What sticks out to me is

missing decals
colors changed in places
fatter arms
bulging crotch

Nothing major, it just looks dull in comparison to the concept art to me.

Gotta love these innersphere Techs and Astechs though. They can replace limbs, engines, heatsinks... basically rebuild your mech from the ground up, but they can't seem to find a bucket of decent paint anywhere.

[Karyudo ds]

Ransack, on 08 October 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

I hope that the skin is unfinished. What sticks out to me is

missing decals
colors changed in places
fatter arms
bulging crotch

Nothing major, it just looks dull in comparison to the concept art to me.

Things often do, to me to least. I love concepts but the end result always feels different. I see what you mean though. The crotch looks same-ish to me, or at least how I expected it to turn out though I agree with the rest.

While I don't like the new Founder Catapult skin (so dark) there is hope that if this doesn't look that great when it lands that they might fix it... or make it terribly dark.

Edited by Karyudo ds, 08 October 2013 - 07:36 PM.

[WVAnonymous]

Hadn't ever noticed the colors were "dusty". I just always thought they weren't very saturated.

My issue with the reveal vs. the original is that I always interpreted those teeth on the upper arms as being geared into the shoulders, and the new art just shows them as monstrous epaulets. They do look good for providing protection from side angle head shots, though.

[Hexenhammer]

DECALS!

I don't know if there'll be on the mechs. I hope they are because the concept art has it and a lot of people expect to see it in game. So if it's not in the game people will scream foul.

Edited by Hexenhammer, 08 October 2013 - 10:19 PM.

[Eddrick]

I have already been sold on getting the BattleMaster. I just don't want to buy the Tier Three and Four to get it. I don't want a ThunderBolt that I can't get rid of. I can wait till January 21st to get the MC and B-Bill, purchasable Standard Version. The Locust and ShadowHawk I'm getting from Tier One and Two from the Phoenix Project will keep me occupied till then. The way the shoulders stick out sideways on the Phoenix version doesn't help to shield the Torsos anymore then the Arms on the Standard Version does. So, I wouldn't be missing out on much besides having to wait till January to get the Standard Version.

[ryoma]

Actually pretty tiny.

You can see PGI wants people to use it because it's tiny.

[Kiiyor]

Asyres, on 08 October 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:

Pros:

• VERY high mounted torso weapons
  
• Big arms fer blockin'
  
• Locations of the energy hardpoints on the side torsos seem indicative of a small, brawl-friendly CT
  
• Torso is very compact overall

Cons:

• Differs from the concept art in some non-aesthetically pleasing ways
  
• Looks like CT may protrude a bit, making it difficult to fully shield.
  
• Big 'crotch' area

[Rushin Roulette]

Ransack, on 08 October 2013 - 11:47 AM, said:

To be honest, the concept art is pretty damn close to the ingame art. There are a few differences though

• The Large energy weaponon the right arm is overslung instead of underslung now (actually gameplaywise this is an improvement, because the weapon will be slightly higher than with the concept version)
  
• The Shoulders are much higher than in the concept (Again in improvement gameplaywise as the arms can shield much better)
  
• The cockpit and the belly seem to be protruding more than with the concept (Gameplaywise this is worse as they are then easier to hit).

Most of teh changes are not too big between the ingame and the concept version, but 2 out of 3 actually make the mech slightly better for real play.

Edited by Rushin Roulette, 09 October 2013 - 01:55 AM.

[Levon K]

Eddrick, on 08 October 2013 - 11:04 PM, said:

I have already been sold on getting the BattleMaster. I just don't want to buy the Tier Three and Four to get it. I don't want a ThunderBolt that I can't get rid of. I can wait till January 21st to get the MC and B-Bill, purchasable Standard Version. The Locust and ShadowHawk I'm getting from Tier One and Two from the Phoenix Project will keep me occupied till then. The way the shoulders stick out sideways on the Phoenix version doesn't help to shield the Torsos anymore then the Arms on the Standard Version does. So, I wouldn't be missing out on much besides having to wait till January to get the Standard Version.

Whoa, hang on a second there:

Did you just say you don't want a Thunderbolt?

!

[CancersCincar]

Levon K, on 09 October 2013 - 06:16 AM, said:

Whoa, hang on a second there:

Did you just say you don't want a Thunderbolt?

!

A sinner indeed! Can't wait for the Thunderbolt. I hope they keep its underslung laser beem.
Battlemaster looks cool though. Probably going to be a bit on the shorter end of things, which is interesting. Hopefully the hitboxes aren't terrible.

[August55]

@ the whole size thing.

To be fair, if you compared the ShadowHawk to a skinny basketball player and BattleMaster to a big jolly brute, you can assume that just because something's taller doesn't mean it's bigger and more fearsome in general.

Edited by August55, 09 October 2013 - 09:04 AM.