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[Throbbinwood]

It boggles my mind as to why PGI can't get this scale issue right.

[Finn McShae]

Do you guys honestly find it any easier to hit a treb vs a hunchie? Seriously, the whining about scale on these forums is insane.

[Zordicron]

Finn McShae, on 13 October 2013 - 07:47 PM, said:

Do you guys honestly find it any easier to hit a treb vs a hunchie? Seriously, the whining about scale on these forums is insane.

Yes. Except the hit detection is worse for trebs( for me). Otherwise blowing a hole in them is pretty easy. I always seem to make zombies out of hunchbacks.

Pretty sure that Tbolt pic cemented the XL engine in place in mine. I can deal with goofy hitbox stuff so long as it isnt the size of an HGN.

I am actually surprised it is as compact looking, I was expecting something a little less lean in the middle based on the fact it was originally an assault mech and also from the concept work.

Provided it isnt a toothpick CT, this will open up a lot of options for me for loadouts.

[Koniving]

Xotor, on 11 October 2013 - 11:29 PM, said:

any size comparisons for the Locust and Battlemaster similar to these?

I can take one soon as the patch goes through. More specifically Lordred will.

[PhoenixD]

Its worse than it looked- I dropped in game in a Shadow Hawk, and its taller than the Battlemaster. I was almost eyeball to eyeball with an Atlas. Its ridiculous.

[Ingvay]

The ShadowHawk is totally screwed....it's freakin' TALL! Waay too Tall. The other three have good scaling, but the Shadowhawk....what were they thinking??

[Ingvay]

I stood it next to a Victor in Crimson Straight, it's just a tiny bit shorter than the Victor....

I'm calling this Chassis the "Shaq-O-Hawk" from now on. Sorry PGI...you screwed up on this mech.

Love the rest of the package though.

[Middcore]

There is no excuse for making this same kind of mistakes as many times as they have.

[Xander185]

yeh I have been running a Shadowhawk all night and it is too damn big. A scout mech the size of an assault mech. Really, I can look a battlemaster in the eye. Not good. Not good. on top of that all the ballistics should be in the hunch and not in a line down the torso. Aiming more than one ballistic is pointless.

[General Taskeen]

I tried to make the Shaq work. I really suck with Tall medium Mechs :\, so I promptly went back to a short Hunchback.

[ShadowbaneX]

So where's the petition to get the Shadow Hawk shrunk?

[Carrioncrows]

General Taskeen, on 15 October 2013 - 07:31 PM, said:

I tried to make the Shaq work. I really suck with Tall medium Mechs :\, so I promptly went back to a short Hunchback.

Less about Brute Firepower and more about Finesse.

It works very well as a line mech just hill hump'n and hammering targets.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...1b68aa2b4e95037

I honestly haven't tried to brawl with a SH, until I figure out the hitboxes it will probably remain that way.

Edited by Carrioncrows, 15 October 2013 - 08:04 PM.

[Dymlos2003]

The SH is an amazing piece of tech.. loving it. The size isn't bad at all

[ShadowbaneX]

dymlos2003, on 15 October 2013 - 08:07 PM, said:

The SH is an amazing piece of tech.. loving it. The size isn't bad at all

I'lll agree with the first part. For the second? It's like a thin Highlander. The thing is stupidly tall. No way a medium mech should be that tall.

[Dymlos2003]

ShadowbaneX, on 15 October 2013 - 08:09 PM, said:

I'lll agree with the first part. For the second? It's like a thin Highlander. The thing is stupidly tall. No way a medium mech should be that tall.

Its that tall for a reason, use it for your advantage

[ShadowbaneX]

dymlos2003, on 15 October 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

Its that tall for a reason, use it for your advantage

Nah. I'll stand by my previous statement. No reason it should be that tall. Trim it by 10-20%

[General Taskeen]

Carrioncrows, on 15 October 2013 - 08:01 PM, said:

Less about Brute Firepower and more about Finesse.

It works very well as a line mech just hill hump'n and hammering targets.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...1b68aa2b4e95037

I honestly haven't tried to brawl with a SH, until I figure out the hitboxes it will probably remain that way.

I stayed at range, and died. Mostly to CT coring, even when twisting.

I tried to make this Royal Brigade Shadow Hawk work, but its a no go ; SHD-2Hb http://bte.battletec...te/pdf/4020.pdf

The Shaq literally feels like a Highlander, without Highlander armor. Compared to MW4's Shadowhawk, this version is less fun to play for me. Plus with MWO's fail jump jets, it jumps 15 meters, rather than 120m in any direction, which was the whole point of its original stock loadout.



The Hawk wasn't very tall in MW4, but it is in MWO, so 2 comments up about "its tall for a reason" is false dichotomy. What reason? "Its should be tall and not mount Assault Mech armor, best reason!

Edited by General Taskeen, 15 October 2013 - 08:32 PM.

[Dymlos2003]

ShadowbaneX, on 15 October 2013 - 08:23 PM, said:

Nah. I'll stand by my previous statement. No reason it should be that tall. Trim it by 10-20%

Alright your argument is invalid cause you probably havent even used the damn mech

[Carrioncrows]

General Taskeen, on 15 October 2013 - 08:26 PM, said:

I stayed at range, and died. Mostly to CT coring, even when twisting.

I tried to make this Royal Brigade Shadow Hawk work, but its a no go ; SHD-2Hb http://bte.battletec...te/pdf/4020.pdf

The Shaq literally feels like a Highlander, without Highlander armor. Compared to MW4's Shadowhawk, this version is less fun to play for me.



The Hawk wasn't very tall in MW4, but it is in MWO, so 2 comments up about "its tall for a reason" is false dichotomy. What reason? "Its should be tall and not mount Assault Mech armor, best reason!"

I honestly hate that it's XL friendly. It seems like the Shadowhawk's Hitboxes look like this



I would much rather XL be a risk and have a tougher mech, Locust and BM are the same way. The only one that's decent is the Tbolt for hitboxes.

Few more mechs like this and I'll put up a poll to just combine the CT, LT, RT all into one armor hitbox so we can all run XL's.

And it can be just as pointless as FF and Endo, only reason you wouldn't is you don't have space.

Edited by Carrioncrows, 15 October 2013 - 08:31 PM.

[ShadowbaneX]

dymlos2003, on 15 October 2013 - 08:27 PM, said:

Alright your argument is invalid cause you probably havent even used the damn mech