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[Koshadows]

Well... I'd probably say the biggest question is how much are you willing to spend for these builds? Anyhow, here's my take on a $1,100 build. (note i'm using intel cpu n mobo cause its the only ones i really did research on. The AMD 8120s are just as effective and cheaper, but i suck at knowing what amd mobos to get)

2nd note: this is for a non overclocker who just wants to build this machine to play the game. If you want overclock please switch to a K series cpu or AMD.

CPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115074 i5 2400 ($190)
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131781 asus z77 for upgrade to ivy bridge if you want ($125)
Case: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811146085 NZXT phantom ($100)
RAM: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231428 G.skill ram ($46)
PSU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139020 Corsair 650W ($90 for now)
HDD: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822152181 samsung ($60 err its on sale today, you might need to find another)
SSD: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820233204 corsair 90 gb bootdrive n whatnot ($100)
Optical: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827135204 asus ($17)
GPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814131466 Powercolor 7870 for ($330)

Overall this is a decent machine that'll put you back around $1,100, though if you want to go through all those rebates, its around $1,020. The machine can be kinda guaranteed for around 50 fps on the cryengine 3 for crysis 2. So if you need anything more in the overkill range, let us know.

[Stillgard]

Built a pc for SWTOR Originally. But since havn't really been using it much for that. Still performs like a beast. Can't wait to see it tear MWO up.

Current PC

Case: System Max SG-125 Vortex
Core Chip: i7-2600
Chip Speed: 3.4 ghz
Ram: 8 gigs DDR3
Graphics GPU: nVidia GTX-550 Ti
Hard Drive: 1 Terrabyte
Power Supply: 550 Watt
Blue Ray DVD Rom
Acer X223w 22" Monitor
Optical Mouse and Keyboard
2 Satellite Speaker with Subwoofer

Currently thinking of Adding a 240g SSD
bumping over an old Terrabyte HD from my previous machine
and adding a full touch screen monitor.

[Vulpesveritas]

Koshadows, on 15 June 2012 - 09:21 PM, said:

Well... I'd probably say the biggest question is how much are you willing to spend for these builds? Anyhow, here's my take on a $1,100 build. (note i'm using intel cpu n mobo cause its the only ones i really did research on. The AMD 8120s are just as effective and cheaper, but i suck at knowing what amd mobos to get)

2nd note: this is for a non overclocker who just wants to build this machine to play the game. If you want overclock please switch to a K series cpu or AMD.

CPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115074 i5 2400 ($190)
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131781 asus z77 for upgrade to ivy bridge if you want ($125)
Case: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811146085 NZXT phantom ($100)
RAM: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231428 G.skill ram ($46)
PSU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139020 Corsair 650W ($90 for now)
HDD: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822152181 samsung ($60 err its on sale today, you might need to find another)
SSD: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820233204 corsair 90 gb bootdrive n whatnot ($100)
Optical: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827135204 asus ($17)
GPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814131466 Powercolor 7870 for ($330)

Overall this is a decent machine that'll put you back around $1,100, though if you want to go through all those rebates, its around $1,020. The machine can be kinda guaranteed for around 50 fps on the cryengine 3 for crysis 2. So if you need anything more in the overkill range, let us know.

Something a bit faster for gaming for $950 without OS;
Case: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811148060
PSU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817207013
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157266
CPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819106010
GPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814125423
RAM: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820103006
HDD: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822152181
ODD: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827135240

And yeah price goes up on that HDD, but the whole thing will stay sub- $1000.

[Koshadows]

^ and that is a really nice build Going with the 670 now is a nice touch.

I picked that PSU because i thought a CF 7870 wouldn't exceed that amount.... at least i thought.

BUT THE SSD!!! what will i do without it??

[Vulpesveritas]

Koshadows, on 15 June 2012 - 09:45 PM, said:

^ and that is a really nice build Going with the 670 now is a nice touch.

I picked that PSU because i thought a CF 7870 wouldn't exceed that amount.... at least i thought.

BUT THE SSD!!! what will i do without it??

A CF 7870 won't exceed it, no. Heck a 550w could probably do it, although I would prefer the peace of mind with the overhead.

And eh, SSD doesn't help out with gaming save for load times... Though we can toss this in for same priced systems and mine will still be faster; http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820226247 $70....

And we can take off $25 if we go with this motherboard + CPU combo on mine...
http://www.newegg.co...st=Combo.956403

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 15 June 2012 - 09:58 PM.

[Koshadows]

haha no doubt, considering the 670 would destroy the 7870 and the i5 isn't that much faster than the 6100 you picked.

I gotta admit i picked a few parts based on personal perf. The case, psu, and SSD were all picked based on the fact i like the quiet case, future cf potentional, and my 60 gb ssd filled up too fast.

[Vulpesveritas]

Koshadows, on 15 June 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

haha no doubt, considering the 670 would destroy the 7870 and the i5 isn't that much faster than the 6100 you picked.

I gotta admit i picked a few parts based on personal perf. The case, psu, and SSD were all picked based on the fact i like the quiet case, future cf potentional, and my 60 gb ssd filled up too fast.

well for that we can keep the same price point with mine with this;
Case: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811146075 -5
SSD: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820226290 +20
PSU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817182200 -$15

A little less power efficient, not quite as good cooling, but quieter and with SLI potential, with the larger SSD.

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 15 June 2012 - 10:11 PM.

[Koshadows]

aye, looks damn solid right there. Also looks kinda like the website for cyberpowerpc lol

[Vulpesveritas]

Koshadows, on 15 June 2012 - 10:22 PM, said:

aye, looks damn solid right there. Also looks kinda like the website for cyberpowerpc lol

I visit there a lot...
Though it is still cheaper just to build your own. The price on their GPUs above a 6870 / 7770 is nuts. And anything but a basic 4100 is overpriced on the CPU.

[Meldarth Sunphot]

Vulpesveritas, on 15 June 2012 - 09:04 PM, said:

Umm.. hi, you do know metro is a dual-threaded game... the FX-4170 is a better processor at this price point, and there is a reason that most benchmark sites don't have it, despite it's performance advantage against an i3. as you can see here; http://www.guru3d.co...ce-benchmarks/6
there isn't much difference between chips. Keep in mind, an FX-4170 is slightly faster than a Phenom II X4 980 at stock.
And as you can see here in a Passmark score; http://www.cpubenchm...-4170+Quad-Core
The FX-4170 outperforms the i5-2500k in price / performance.
The FX-6200 is a better deal, performing slightly better than a 1100t for $160, although lower threaded games will be slightly slower.
Then we see here;

Conclusion; Better threaded games favor bulldozer, games running havok or are lightly threaded favor Intel.
AMD is cheaper, you can overclock at lower price points, and have a better upgrade path, plus you get more motherboard features.


So either is fine in the end. Though generally for games you're better off going for a better graphics card at 720p and above than worrying about your CPU. that $70 difference between an i5 and an FX-6200 is much better off going for the next step up GPU in the end, until you hit the Geforce GTX 670 / Radeon HD 7970 level.
As you can see here;

See much of a difference whatsoever on the CPU side save for that dual core A4?

I love people saying I'm lieing to my customers - when I'm not - hell do I even need to pull out Hardocp's event with AMD's Reality Check?

http://www.legitrevi...article/1838/1/

AMD didn't set up the systems - all they did was run blind test between the systems........those numbers speak for themselves.....I don't lie; I back up with facts......

Intel's got a great CPU - but is AMD's cpus crap ?? not by a long shot; anything Intel's cpu does; AMD's does also......fact

[Shivus]

Meldarth Sunphot, on 16 June 2012 - 10:57 AM, said:

Intel's got a great CPU - but is AMD's cpus crap ?? not by a long shot; anything Intel's cpu does; AMD's does also......fact

Though I agree, in complete fairness AMD is currently pretty bad in single threaded applications. Games that use multiple cores though, there's no discernible difference.

[Dinochrome]

Consider visiting Tom's Hardware News. For the build it yourself crowd they have bargain, medium, and expensive builds with all the gory details. I would not spend over $700 for a multipurpose comp for this game, good as well as for other uses. I also recommend intel cpu and mobo combinations because they work with minimum fuss and no drama.

V/R Dinochrome

[razorkill12]

tucker147, on 16 June 2012 - 12:04 PM, said:

do you think that this is a good deal? its from futureshop.ca $600 CyberpowerPC Gamer Ultra AMD FX-4100

Beware of the junk power supplies. I have first hand experience with cyberpower and bad power supplies. Also the vid card looks a little low, so I would change that as well.

[Colorfinger]

I realize it is a long shot, but what are the chances of buying a system that will be able to handle this game for $500 to $600?

[Vulpesveritas]

Colorfinger, on 16 June 2012 - 08:02 PM, said:

I realize it is a long shot, but what are the chances of buying a system that will be able to handle this game for $500 to $600?

Buying... no.
Building, yes probably.

[Aznpersuasion89]

Hmmm....i plan on rockin my awesome dual core 2.7GHz with 6GB DDR3 RAM, 1TB HDD and im lookin at the HIS Radeon 1GB HD7770, all powered by a XFX 550W PSU, Win 7 OS. any other cards around that price point with maybe better performance? maybe the OC version?

Edited by Aznpersuasion89, 18 June 2012 - 10:19 PM.