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[Adridos]

pbiggz, on 25 October 2013 - 01:22 PM, said:

If weapons aren't brokenly OP then having the same ghost heat limitations as IS weapons would be fine, but who knows what pgi will do.

Even the "basic" ghost heat is doing a lot of harm to the Clans already.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Nova

12x ERML cooled by measly 18 DHS , from which 8 are external. This thing couldn't even handle 8x ML in MW:O properly.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Bane

10x UAC/2... put this thing on a macro and the game dies immediately. You do too in the match, but that's not your problem anymore.

Et cetera, et cetera.

[pbiggz]

10 uac2s jesus h. christ that's an abomination. Yea i'm sure they'll have some way of bringing those builds in line. Also with regards to the nova even in canon they could barely fire all their weapons, so firing 6 of the 12 isn't entirely implausible.

[dal10]

6 would nuke it. they produce even more heat than normal medium lasers. you are probably talking 2-3 tops for ghost heat. since is doesn't have ER meds for a while.

[Deathz Jester]

pbiggz, on 25 October 2013 - 08:07 PM, said:

10 uac2s jesus h. christ that's an abomination. Yea i'm sure they'll have some way of bringing those builds in line. Also with regards to the nova even in canon they could barely fire all their weapons, so firing 6 of the 12 isn't entirely implausible.

dal10, on 25 October 2013 - 08:56 PM, said:

6 would nuke it. they produce even more heat than normal medium lasers. you are probably talking 2-3 tops for ghost heat. since is doesn't have ER meds for a while.

well to further amuse you, it'd be a hell of a journey down the timeline to get to it. but for giggles here:

Vulture MKIII

Armament
Prime Configuration

• 4 x LRM-20s
  
• 6 x ER Medium Lasers

Keep in mind its a 60 ton mech

Edited by Iron Harlequin, 25 October 2013 - 09:13 PM.

[CyclonerM]

Iron Harlequin, on 25 October 2013 - 09:13 PM, said:

well to further amuse you, it'd be a hell of a journey down the timeline to get to it. but for giggles here:

Vulture MKIII

Armament
Prime Configuration

• 4 x LRM-20s
  
• 6 x ER Medium Lasers

Keep in mind its a 60 ton mech

Kerensky be thanked , we will not get it until MUCH later in the timeline

[dal10]

Iron Harlequin, on 25 October 2013 - 09:13 PM, said:

well to further amuse you, it'd be a hell of a journey down the timeline to get to it. but for giggles here:

Vulture MKIII

Armament
Prime Configuration

• 4 x LRM-20s
  
• 6 x ER Medium Lasers

Keep in mind its a 60 ton mech

no electronics, only 6 salvos of missiles, and its alpha would probably send it to 400% heat. not enough ammo for the lrms to make it useful against any but an extremely stupid opponent, not enough heat sinks to chain fire more than 2-3 of the er mediums.

it is basically useless pugging, and can only rely on the lack of minimum range of its lrms to be useful.

[Deathz Jester]

dal10, on 26 October 2013 - 05:18 AM, said:

no electronics, only 6 salvos of missiles, and its alpha would probably send it to 400% heat. not enough ammo for the lrms to make it useful against any but an extremely stupid opponent, not enough heat sinks to chain fire more than 2-3 of the er mediums.

it is basically useless pugging, and can only rely on the lack of minimum range of its lrms to be useful.

As are 99% of the clan mechs lol

[YellaChicken]

RolfS, on 15 October 2013 - 12:05 PM, said:

If Jade Falcon can't conquer lyran commonwealth with these three configs there is something very wrong with the game balance..

I think you've misunderstood game balance. You seriously think that every inner sphere player in the game should lose every match they play against clan opponents when clans turn up and that their mech configs, customized or not, should be completely useless against your stock Summoner? May as well remove all the IS houses and mechs from the game now then eh? No ones gonna want to play matches they have no chance of winning.

[Tannhauser Gate]

This thread is a discussion without facts. People are speculating on guesses. There is lore, then there is MWO. Just like any other MW game, it will be its own animal, its own interpretation. Imo, the op is a troll. He instantly went for worst possible scenario to create an argument.

[CyclonerM]

MWO is already so far and far from lore that we should not involve it when speculating on the game's future features..

[dal10]

so what you are saying is that we should discuss game trends while speculating on future features of said game.

[Garonis Buhallin]

All of the Omnimechs seen in the first invasion of the Inner Sphere are common, available to all clans. Some clans simply prefer certain chassis. Case in point, while the Timberwolf is well regarded in Clan Wolf, It is seen in Clan Jade Falcon. In fact, the CJF hero Aiden Pryde used one for quite the long time.

[WhiteFenix]

Vanguard319, on 15 October 2013 - 12:02 AM, said:

I had a Loki in MW4 that I did very well with, stripped all the weapons off save for 2 cERPPCs and ECM, then maxed out the engine. I once fought a Daishi and Madcat mk II 2 to 1, and after an hour long match won without a single loss. just kept running away and coring them from out of their most effective range. was great for hit-and-run fighting.

I did this with the Loki as well although not the same weapons, i used a guass , erppc and erll, and really fast; did pretty well as long as you didnt run directly at or away from the enemy, about the only thing that would get good hits on you was the lasers of MW4. Strange thing too but i actually prefered MW4 loki to the thor.
HEck the centurian is larger in comparison to other mechs in this game then the loki was in that one.

Edited by WhiteFenix, 05 March 2014 - 02:40 PM.

[Silence Jin Mang]

I`ll take on any weight class in a Thor Prime, and I guarantee I will win. I`ll take any Medium or Light in a Kitfox Prime. And the Hellbringer is yet to make an appearance, but I`d still wager I could beat any heavy in its prime, despite the lack of armor. As a CJF, I take offense to the fact you link its build as the only deciding factor in MWO, when in all actuality its the Pilot that makes the mech. A fully customized IS would still have some form of weakness, and any good pilot will exploit it. The same goes for the clan mechs, but if you think like that, then I doubt you will do nothing but play to your strengths and not exploit any of my weaknesses. Honestly even if it were against an equally skilled pilot, I would take the Prime`s, because I am loyal to the Clans and would not forsake them for pieces of junk.

[pbiggz]

[WhiteFenix]

Adridos, on 25 October 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

Even the "basic" ghost heat is doing a lot of harm to the Clans already.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Nova

12x ERML cooled by measly 18 DHS , from which 8 are external. This thing couldn't even handle 8x ML in MW:O properly.

Yeah, this is special 101.6 heat if you alpha. hahaha I guess they figure your going to get an arm blown off in the first 3 minutes.

[Dakkaface]

Well, either my fellow Nova Prime pilots are going to learn to just judiciously fire one arm while side stepping from behind cover, or they'll make the swap to 12 ER Smalls, which put out damage on par with 12 IS Mediums for one less heat per laser and zero ghost heat. Only loss is a bit of range.

Edited by Dakkaface, 05 March 2014 - 05:47 PM.

[KuroNyra]

I'll take thor anytime.
Just because it look's cool.
Almost like a warhammer.

[Uncle Totty]

KuroNyra, on 06 March 2014 - 01:25 PM, said:

I'll take Hellbringer anytime.
Just because it look's cool.
Almost like a Warhammer.

Fixed.

[KuroNyra]

Nathan K, on 06 March 2014 - 07:29 PM, said:

Fixed.

HECK NO!
I like the Loki too.
But... Damn, no. Simply. NO!