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#61 Primez

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 03:27 AM

View PostJabilo, on 22 October 2013 - 12:04 PM, said:

Lose the ready button.

Make mech start up sequence optional.

Fix full minutes delay loading mechs after a match for anyone with a decent amount of mechs.

Raise C Bill Earnings.

Playing this game is like pulling teeth sometimes. You spend more time waiting around then playing and I am becoming sick of it.

Are you a prophet, this so much needs to be done.

#62 RamataKhan

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 09:19 PM

I've never been attacked by a team member or seen it happen to anyone else for not hitting ready, ever.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:16 AM

View Postoldradagast, on 15 October 2013 - 08:22 AM, said:

Premades should be flagged and locked so they can't be moved around, and the Ready button should blink so new players see it. Make those changes, and I think some of the worst of this new, childish behavior will disappear.


This is a great suggestion!

#64 Zuesacoatl

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:26 AM

View PostClaive, on 15 October 2013 - 12:30 PM, said:


Some of us have children... and adding 3-4 minites per match is the difference between playing and not playing. Or between playing one game vs two.

I have 7 kiddos, and a wife, and it does not bother me to wait the extra 60 seconds, so please do not use the kids as a crutch on this. If I am talking to a kiddo, and someone is RAGE about the ready button, i come on and say "Hey, sorry, was talking to my kiddo, he is a bit more important than 60 seconds" and most peeps understand and back off. You do get the ***** that just wont let it go, but they are derailed by the others that jump on my side for being a dad.

EDIT: The devs have already said they are addressing this. When all players join, the timer will drop to 20 seconds. They are also looking at an auto ready option, and a forced ready vote option.

Edited by Zuesacoatl, 24 October 2013 - 05:27 AM.


#65 John Wolf

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 07:01 AM

The ready button may cause delays, but I have found it is one of the BEST ways to allow a late joiner to get in the game. I have had less 11 v 12 matches because we wait to hit ready and the 12 man connects properly.

A little patience goes a long way.

Remember, friendly fire is never friendly. You're a team out there.

Keep it civil, and follow the code! :)

http://mwomercs.com/...arrior-justice/

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 07:08 AM

View PostJohn Wolf, on 24 October 2013 - 07:01 AM, said:

The ready button may cause delays, but I have found it is one of the BEST ways to allow a late joiner to get in the game. I have had less 11 v 12 matches because we wait to hit ready and the 12 man connects properly.

A little patience goes a long way.

Remember, friendly fire is never friendly. You're a team out there.

Keep it civil, and follow the code! :)

http://mwomercs.com/...arrior-justice/


that's funny because I never had games launch with only 11 players on a team until they added the ready button.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 07:11 AM

View PostJohn Wolf, on 24 October 2013 - 07:01 AM, said:

The ready button may cause delays, but I have found it is one of the BEST ways to allow a late joiner to get in the game. I have had less 11 v 12 matches because we wait to hit ready and the 12 man connects properly.

A little patience goes a long way.

Remember, friendly fire is never friendly. You're a team out there.

Keep it civil, and follow the code! :)

http://mwomercs.com/...arrior-justice/


I think you're misinformed on this one. Even if all 11 ready up it won't launch until the timer runs out or a 12th joins and readies up. I've tested it a few times because I was curious.

#68 John Wolf

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 07:19 AM

Oh, I may be in correct on the auto drop. I hadn't noticed a drop where we all readied up before the 12th man joined. I /THOUGHT/ I remembered a drop where everyone readied and we dropped 11 v 12. I could be mistaken though. :)

Thanks guys!

I'll still give the ready button the credit, it deserves some props. :lol:

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 07:56 AM

Being a bit impatient and prodding others to PUSH BUTTON? Fine.

TK'ing, rage-quitting, or otherwise griefing over it / with it? You're an @$$#0|3.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 08:28 AM

View PostJohn Wolf, on 24 October 2013 - 07:19 AM, said:

Oh, I may be in correct on the auto drop. I hadn't noticed a drop where we all readied up before the 12th man joined. I /THOUGHT/ I remembered a drop where everyone readied and we dropped 11 v 12. I could be mistaken though. :)

Thanks guys!

I'll still give the ready button the credit, it deserves some props. :lol:

View PostKraven Kor, on 24 October 2013 - 07:56 AM, said:

Being a bit impatient and prodding others to PUSH BUTTON? Fine.

TK'ing, rage-quitting, or otherwise griefing over it / with it? You're an @$$#0|3.


Yea I know we were confused in a game one time. One side was raging for us to all ready up but we didn't want to because we were 1 short. So the next time I found that situation we got everyone readied up but it wouldn't launch. It waited for the timer to countdown. Anyone raging over 60 seconds has much bigger issues than playing a video game anyhow. The dbags who Tk and such, just report them

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 03:29 AM

I may of missed something here if I have i'm sorry. Have not gone thought all the posts in this forum.

I personally dont know why we have a ready button as you have already pressed the launch button. You would have not pressed if you was'nt ready? There is all so no button to press if you was'nt ready?????

Is this button here for some future item in the game, like a video launch of the mechs falling from the mothership onto the planet surface?? that would be really good!

What have I missed?

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 03:41 AM

View PostSkiss, on 14 October 2013 - 09:07 PM, said:

The longer we play with the ready up button the more I notice a negative effect on team chat and more. If you dont ready up right away you get harassed or worse, someone on your team takes it upon themselves to friendly fire you to show how unhappy they are with you.

For example today, I joined a match. Got distracted by the wait on ready so I went to do something and came back real quick and a few members on my team were very unhappy with me and the minute the game started friendly fire came my way. Once I finished slaying trolls I decided it was time to say something on the forums about this because its something I see more and more every game. Please remove the ready feature for pug play. It serves no purpose. By clicking the launch button you are saying you are ready. In group play a ready button is essential. Anyways let me know if other online players are experiencing some of the same negativity due to this.

Edit: Yes, I totally spelled Environment wrong.... go figure lol

Don't blame the game. Blame the players. The game isn't making players impatient jackholes. Place blame where it belongs.

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 05:06 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 25 October 2013 - 03:41 AM, said:

Don't blame the game. Blame the players. The game isn't making players impatient jackholes. Place blame where it belongs.


Very true.

I still do not think that there is a need for it in PuG drops at all. Adding the take command button on top is compounding it.
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This was last night. Some dude grabbed company command and decided that the Atlases should be together, breaking up my training lance. Granted he eventually did put my guys back together, but by then it was too late. He had no clue how to even use the command feature. Then some other person chimes in about lances being locked at start.

Please give us the ability to auto ready and lock lances if you are going to keep these things in PuG drops.

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 05:24 AM

1) If you click launch, have the basic decency towards others to be ready to play. Your kids/phone/google search/passive aggressive time wasting shouldn't be turned into everyone else's problem. Stop being inconsiderate to others before taking issue with negative reactions.

2) Do not take control of the team and rearrange lances. It does not change how people will play, it will not improve team performance, you are doing neither your team nor yourself any favours.

3) The ready button has introduced far more problems than it has resolved, therefore the mechanic is the problem and not the players.

4) I am seeing just as many, if not more, disconnects than I ever have at the start of matches. If this is supposed to be some resolution to that, it's a pretty pathetic one.

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 10:40 AM

View PostNextGame, on 25 October 2013 - 05:24 AM, said:

1) If you click launch, have the basic decency towards others to be ready to play. Your kids/phone/google search/passive aggressive time wasting shouldn't be turned into everyone else's problem. Stop being inconsiderate to others before taking issue with negative reactions.

2) Do not take control of the team and rearrange lances. It does not change how people will play, it will not improve team performance, you are doing neither your team nor yourself any favours.

3) The ready button has introduced far more problems than it has resolved, therefore the mechanic is the problem and not the players.

4) I am seeing just as many, if not more, disconnects than I ever have at the start of matches. If this is supposed to be some resolution to that, it's a pretty pathetic one.


Do you have children?

So let's say you pick out your time for gaming, tell the kids to leave you be, wife is occupied / content, whatever, right?

Kid comes up and says "Daddy, I spilled juice." What do you do?

Option 1: Let Mom deal with it.
Option 2: @#$% kid I'm gaming!
Option 3: Set aside totally not-important GAME and help your CHILD.

I agree that, ideally, one should be able to plan their leisure time so as not to interfere with real life, but on occasion, real life intrudes, and we need to have our priorities in the right place.

The correct response to "oh jeez this guy is AKF now we're going to lose" is "Oh, well, let's have fun."

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 03:31 PM

View Post627, on 17 October 2013 - 08:04 AM, said:

had another experience yesterday with the new screen: we dropped with 4 and someone took command and shifted us. so i asked politely to shift us back (yes, i did so, i even used *please* :P )

however nearly instant the response was: "If you shoot me, i'll report you" - and i really didn't threat him. I repeated my question to change us back, and he suddenly resigned command so i could take it and shifted back. And after that that guy starts to take and resign command to flood the chat window.

This was obviously trolling, it's the same with people who ready up and down all the way.

The standard operating procedure seems to be that the group that gets moved around demands to be put back, and if they aren't, they sabotage the match and/or TK multiple people.

It seems a bit of an inappropriate response over something so insignificant.

View PostKraven Kor, on 25 October 2013 - 10:40 AM, said:

Kid comes up and says "Daddy, I spilled juice." What do you do?

Option 1: Let Mom deal with it.
Option 2: @#$% kid I'm gaming!
Option 3: Set aside totally not-important GAME and help your CHILD.

Option 4: Find out how the child was able to get out of the locked punishment closet.

View PostRansack, on 25 October 2013 - 05:06 AM, said:

This was last night. Some dude grabbed company command and decided that the Atlases should be together, breaking up my training lance. Granted he eventually did put my guys back together, but by then it was too late.

Too late for what? If you were on mumble/teamspeak then the slightly different color arrows on your minimap are not a challenge you couldn't overcome. Are you one of the sort who petulantly throws a match if your lance is broken up to make a more cohesive 12 man?

Edited by mint frog, 26 October 2013 - 03:35 PM.


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Posted 26 October 2013 - 04:18 PM

The ready button function has not added anything good to this game. Rather, it has added new oppotunities for trolling and increased wait time for matches. I would like to see it removed.

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 12:50 AM

View PostKraven Kor, on 25 October 2013 - 10:40 AM, said:

Kid comes up and says "Daddy, I spilled juice." What do you do?

Option 1: Let Mom deal with it.
Option 2: @#$% kid I'm gaming!
Option 3: Set aside totally not-important GAME and help your CHILD.

Option 4: Click ready first, then help your kid. It's not the GAME that's waiting for anything or anyone, it's the 23 other PEOPLE whose free time is being wasted.

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 01:25 AM

View PostKraven Kor, on 25 October 2013 - 10:40 AM, said:


Do you have children?

So let's say you pick out your time for gaming, tell the kids to leave you be, wife is occupied / content, whatever, right?

Kid comes up and says "Daddy, I spilled juice." What do you do?

Option 1: Let Mom deal with it.
Option 2: @#$% kid I'm gaming!
Option 3: Set aside totally not-important GAME and help your CHILD.

I agree that, ideally, one should be able to plan their leisure time so as not to interfere with real life, but on occasion, real life intrudes, and we need to have our priorities in the right place.

The correct response to "oh jeez this guy is AKF now we're going to lose" is "Oh, well, let's have fun."


Firstly: The winning option is: Don't have kids, spend the £1000's you will save over the years on top spec gaming hardware (and your pension fund), and get your wife to play MechWarrior as well.

Secondly: Why should everyone else have to wait because you are trying to split your time between children and gaming? Your children and time management are not our problem. The least you can do is ready up and let everyone else get on with it. It is only 1 mouse click after all.

Thirdly: I didn't realise there was such a juice dropping epidemic impacting fellow players. I mean, with the rate of non-readying up players, I estimate that at least 10% of the player base have permanently stained flooring resulting from accidents during the ready up phase. Considering how long this mechanic has been in place I would argue that this is clearly quite a serious thing, and wonder whether or not we should petition PGI for a charity mech to fund an anti beverage spillage campaign? Or maybe to bulk buy orange coloured carpet and sell it for MC?

Edited by NextGame, 27 October 2013 - 01:58 AM.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 01:35 AM

Some suggestions.

Lock premades so only premade leader an move his team around.
When the leader of a premade readies up it readies his group.
Auto-Ready toggle in options.
Every time a person readies up 2 or 3 seconds is removed from the timer.
Let commanders drop orders on the map while waiting.
Movement confirmation. Both people being moved have to agree to the move before it happens. Premade leaders can move people in their own group without confirmation.

Edited by Hexenhammer, 27 October 2013 - 01:36 AM.






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