Jump to content

12 Man Using "piggy Backing" Exploit


43 replies to this topic

#1 FerrolupisXIII

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Caladbolg
  • Caladbolg
  • 502 posts
  • LocationCatapult Cockpit

Posted 15 October 2013 - 09:46 PM

well, we just had a match where we watched a 12 man use JJ's to hop onto another mechs back and move their bigger mechs up faster.

really guys? really? that's just low.

#2 yashmack

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Knight Errant
  • 802 posts

Posted 15 October 2013 - 10:34 PM

doesnt work, ive tried many times to replicate and every time you either fall off, lag around like crazy and dont move, or you kill the smaller mech by crushing its head...
post a video or it didnt happen

#3 LORD TSARKON

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Urban Commando
  • Urban Commando
  • 776 posts
  • LocationButtmunch City

Posted 15 October 2013 - 11:56 PM

Just an FYI... This does damage you now when you do it... Also as a spider pilot I used to love to jump ontop
of enemy mechs back in the day (infact I was stuck on one back in May while pugging)... but now it severely damages your legs....

Last time I did this to an enemy mech I died and fell through the mech and the world.. endlessly falling,ect..



#4 Earl White

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 210 posts

Posted 16 October 2013 - 05:12 AM

Depends on the sizes of the mechs, you can use a Highlander to ride Mediums or Heavies much longer than lights, although a sacrificial spider might be able to get you to the enemy base before it is crushed. Something fast like a Dragon might be ideal as a mount.

#5 FerrolupisXIII

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Caladbolg
  • Caladbolg
  • 502 posts
  • LocationCatapult Cockpit

Posted 16 October 2013 - 01:49 PM

I dont run FRAPS. my computer isnt good enough to run both. and its not like im making any blatant accusations so why do i need a video?

I've seen stuff like highlanders and victors ride things like the aforementioned dragon. and most big mechs have the armor on their legs to not worry about a couple points of damage in return for the free speed.

#6 Baltasar

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 261 posts
  • Google+: Link
  • LocationArkansas

Posted 16 October 2013 - 03:09 PM

A buddy and me tested this out before. Jenners make a decent platform. Got anything with jump jets on it and cruised at 140 kph. You have to watch landscape but it is possible. If you are really good you can land an atlas on top of one by having it walk off a building onto it. The atlas stays on decently but could only get a stalker about 200-300 meters before it would fall off. Don't know if it was because of the way it sits or if all those adult beverages were finally starting to take hold. Sent a detailed ticket in forever ago but I doubt it will change any time soon. (Be nice to see DFA in the game and that will stop that pretty quick lol).

#7 Sabazial

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Point Commander
  • Point Commander
  • 725 posts
  • LocationUnited Kingdom

Posted 17 October 2013 - 07:20 AM

I just personally witnessed 2 guys exploiting this in my last match, standing on his partners mech and using it to shoot over ridges etc. Removed name to avoid name and shame policy.

Posted Image

#8 D04S02B04

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 158 posts

Posted 17 October 2013 - 02:35 PM

Exploit??? I THINK THAT IS A BRILLIANT STRATEGY!!!

I mean seriously... the impression PGI gives is "everything is fair game and anything goes". I'm looking at stuff like ridiculous spider hitboxes. Right now I fear a single Spider and the damage/chaos it can do... more than I fear an Atlas regardless of whether I run a medium, heavy or assault mech.

As said in another thread, it's probably not a bug they prioritise.
http://mwomercs.com/...ation-requests/
There are only a few ways to force action when in a situation of disproportionate power. Exploit the bug until it becomes so significant that they take action or until players quit from the developer's inaction.

Or you could be ethical and simply boycott the game and let the ghost servers reign.

#9 Sephlock

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Legendary Founder
  • Legendary Founder
  • 10,820 posts

Posted 17 October 2013 - 02:48 PM

The solution is to do the same thing:


#10 Hexenhammer

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Legendary Founder
  • Legendary Founder
  • 3,729 posts
  • LocationKAETETôã

Posted 17 October 2013 - 05:58 PM

I've only seen this done once in a match. It was a catapult on Crimson Strait and it was 'teleporting' 20-30 meters a second as the game tried to keep track of where it was while the mech it was standing atop was moving.

The person responded with things like its a legal tactic, and if PGI didn't want people to do it they'd fix it. Ultimately it's same excuses every exploitor and greifer gives and the only way to deal with them is to record it with Fraps, post it and send and email to PGI.

So how does this get fixed? Collision and Death from Above. Put those mechanics in and the problem is solved. But that's easier said tha done.

#11 PEEFsmash

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Philanthropist
  • Philanthropist
  • 1,280 posts
  • LocationLos Angeles

Posted 17 October 2013 - 06:02 PM

It's an interesting technique. If they didn't want us to do it, they should take it out of the game.

#12 CrashieJ

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,435 posts
  • LocationGalatea (Mercenary's Star)

Posted 17 October 2013 - 06:06 PM

View PostSephlock, on 17 October 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

The solution is to do the same thing:



I am now temped to merge some of the mechs together and make MegaMeks.

#13 Krivvan

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Littlest Helper
  • Littlest Helper
  • 4,318 posts
  • LocationUSA/Canada

Posted 17 October 2013 - 07:53 PM

You're sacrificing use of one mech to be able to peak over the ridge like that. Even if you want to call this an exploit, it isn't one that is really unfair.

#14 Sephlock

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Legendary Founder
  • Legendary Founder
  • 10,820 posts

Posted 17 October 2013 - 09:28 PM



#15 kuangmk11

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Veteran Founder
  • Veteran Founder
  • 627 posts
  • LocationW-SEA, Cascadia

Posted 17 October 2013 - 10:36 PM

It does happen. I have seen it used to deliver assaults to the other side of the map on alpine. Just report them.

#16 PEEFsmash

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Philanthropist
  • Philanthropist
  • 1,280 posts
  • LocationLos Angeles

Posted 18 October 2013 - 01:01 AM

View Postkuangmk11, on 17 October 2013 - 10:36 PM, said:

It does happen. I have seen it used to deliver assaults to the other side of the map on alpine. Just report them.


Report them for what? Using an in-game mechanic? This is not a hack or some sort of external software. You jump on top of someones head, and then the someone moves. It is part of the game and anyone can do it. If you have a complaint, ask the developers if they should take it out of the game. If it is in the game, use it.

Edited by PEEFsmash, 18 October 2013 - 01:01 AM.


#17 Omega59er

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Elite Founder
  • Elite Founder
  • 394 posts
  • LocationIndiana

Posted 18 October 2013 - 01:33 AM

View PostPEEFsmash, on 18 October 2013 - 01:01 AM, said:


Report them for what? Using an in-game mechanic? This is not a hack or some sort of external software. You jump on top of someones head, and then the someone moves. It is part of the game and anyone can do it. If you have a complaint, ask the developers if they should take it out of the game. If it is in the game, use it.

While your logic isn't necessarily flawed, it's still not right. Just because something is possible doesn't mean you should do it. Yes, I'm a bleeding heart, but it's not proper sportsmanship.
That being said, I'm sure it'll be fixed 'soon'™ in timely PGI time.

#18 Kazma

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 257 posts
  • LocationGermany - Leipzig

Posted 18 October 2013 - 01:47 AM

been testing it with some friends, the 3rd guy on top doesn't move he just endlessly falls^^
and using JJs as the lower guy is a bad idea http://youtu.be/qnVQ8d0bXc4?t=3m8s :)

#19 Ace Selin

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,534 posts
  • LocationAustralia

Posted 18 October 2013 - 02:00 AM

PGI have stated that piggy backing is a bannable exploit. Report them.

#20 Chemie

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Bad Company
  • Bad Company
  • 2,491 posts
  • LocationMI

Posted 18 October 2013 - 03:22 AM

View PostOmega59er, on 18 October 2013 - 01:33 AM, said:

While your logic isn't necessarily flawed, it's still not right. Just because something is possible doesn't mean you should do it. Yes, I'm a bleeding heart, but it's not proper sportsmanship.
That being said, I'm sure it'll be fixed 'soon'™ in timely PGI time.


So how do people know what is a game mechanic that they can use and what is a game mechanic that is off limits? Who is the god who decides what makes things "right"? Honestly, all this "it must be played the way I say" is stupid. PGI should fix things or at least have statements on mechanics that are broken and they intend to fix.

Edited by Chemie, 18 October 2013 - 03:23 AM.






1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users