Cataphract, Yes, I Know.
#1
Posted 27 October 2013 - 06:48 AM
#2
Posted 27 October 2013 - 07:03 AM
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...echlab#modified
I got my start with Cataphracts, i did the 2x so im not sure about a good build but check out other cataphract build threads here on the forums
#3
Posted 27 October 2013 - 07:05 AM
#4
Posted 27 October 2013 - 07:07 AM
#5
Posted 27 October 2013 - 07:43 AM
The 4X has some lovely balistic slots in the arms, so take advantage of them. I think you can run duel gauss with an ERLL comfortably in that mech, or a 3-4 AC2 or AC5 build. I'd also stick to a standard engine in that mech, as you can mount 2 MLs or 1 LL and maybe an SRM and be effective till they drop you via head or CT Removal.
The 3D Cataphrat is the one that gets the most love due to it's jump jets. I'd look into that as an option for your next mech.
#6
Posted 27 October 2013 - 08:33 AM
Edited by Modo44, 27 October 2013 - 08:37 AM.
#7
Posted 27 October 2013 - 09:15 AM
At the moment i play my 3d with 4 med laser,2 AC10 - 60 ammo,325xl-82 km/h. Only thing: you have to watch your side torso,but when you fi nd "your" playstyle with it,it makes really fun.
My 1x is at the moment 280 std,1 PPC,4 med laser and 1 LBX
Edited by Mighty Spike, 27 October 2013 - 09:18 AM.
#8
Posted 27 October 2013 - 09:32 AM
#9
Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:20 AM
#10
Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:32 AM
#11
Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:40 AM
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...8041e77d52fb006
Honestly, I can't imagine another mech doing more DPS to heavies and assaults than this beast. The more skilled players already duck their heads when they see it coming, the lesser skilled just get shredded. The way to bring him down is with light mechs or LRM fire - going head on vs this guy in a heavy or assault is suicide.
#12
Posted 27 October 2013 - 11:15 AM
Once you got used to the charge mechanic, you can use the double gauss on mid to close range and tear armor open and then move closer and unleash the hail of crits with the MGs. MLs are backup...one can be switched for a TAG if running with a team that's got LRMs equipped. Grants nice Tag/Narc bonuses too Or if you want to use it as a pure sniper build, dump the MGs and equip an AMS (Although I think the 'phract is not the best sniper because of the poor hardpoint positioning. (Imo the GaussJager is a much better chioce for sniping, so I use the 4X as "brawl support"...if you know what i mean. Not in the middle of the action but no far from it )
Another "classic" build if you prefer ACs: CTF-4X-UAC/AC2
Little low on Ammo so MLs are mandatory. UACs can be swiched for AC5 according to own preferencs. If done so, the two remainig tons can be used for more ammo/heatsinks. Fire discipline is required to avoid overheating...so make those rounds count. Imo this bulid requires more skill than the aforementioned GaussPhract due to limited ammo and heat buildup. (The Gauss-Charge-haters will disagree )
Edited by Kamikater, 27 October 2013 - 11:16 AM.
#13
Posted 27 October 2013 - 02:33 PM
Edited by Victor Morson, 27 October 2013 - 02:35 PM.
#14
Posted 27 October 2013 - 02:49 PM
#15
Posted 27 October 2013 - 02:54 PM
Still you could make a perfectly solid case for AC/5 Jaggers as an alternative. Like I said, the 4X has just started to be seen again, specifically because it can do that one thing Jaggers can't as well. It could end up a passing fad.
Edited by Victor Morson, 27 October 2013 - 02:54 PM.
#16
Posted 27 October 2013 - 03:07 PM
#17
Posted 28 October 2013 - 03:03 AM
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...652a6f1e08bf071
the gauss hits always nearly the same target area and you have 3 meds as Backup. you can also remoce the 1 heatsink in the engine and put 1t more ammo with you. Makes no difference with the cooling....this is a Killer when you have some attention on your side Torso
Edited by Mighty Spike, 28 October 2013 - 03:05 AM.
#18
Posted 28 October 2013 - 05:51 AM
Mighty Spike, on 28 October 2013 - 03:03 AM, said:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...652a6f1e08bf071
the gauss hits always nearly the same target area and you have 3 meds as Backup. you can also remoce the 1 heatsink in the engine and put 1t more ammo with you. Makes no difference with the cooling....this is a Killer when you have some attention on your side Torso
1) You can fit that on a standard
2) It's a really bad setup
I mean it's powerful, and I even tried to make it work in serious games because I liked the punch + jump. However since they are both right side and the Gauss explode, basically the second you get an internal hit to a Gauss Rifle, you explode.
It's basically a death trap. Only run 2x Gauss on the 4x or Ilya.
Edited by Victor Morson, 28 October 2013 - 05:51 AM.
#19
Posted 28 October 2013 - 09:22 AM
That being said, you can definitely still twist your torso and maneuver to take damage on the side torsos and arms - and you always should whenever you can. It's just that the target for the CT is bigger for the Cataphract, and you have to remember that.
Another thing you may have noticed is that your weapons fire from different hardpoints will come from different directions compared to your reticle. The torso energy hardpoints, for example, are pretty high, but the arms will come from waist level. This is an important consideration - 'mechs like the Jaegermech will simply smash you if you try to peek over hills and trade ballistic fire with them, so know your 'mech and refuse to play their game.
=)
#20
Posted 28 October 2013 - 02:48 PM
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