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Does The Matchmaker Reset Every Time The Bonus Resets?


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#1 Rorvik

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 05:37 PM

I ask because I've noticed that every time the 2X bonus resets (which is usually once a day, but I've had days where I've gotten in twice), I get into at least a good 5 - 10 game losing streak, with the first 3-6 of them absolute steamrolls.

Then, after about an hour of constantly losing, the MM will suddenly take a ridiculously long time to find a match, at which point I start winning again.

This can't be coincidence that I have these mysteriously horrible losing streaks EVERY single time the bonus resets...

Anyone else notice this?

#2 Deathlike

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 05:57 PM

No, it's just a coincidence.

#3 Rorvik

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 06:14 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 27 October 2013 - 05:57 PM, said:

No, it's just a coincidence.


Would it helped if I collected concrete results for every day for the next 3 weeks?

#4 Deathlike

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 06:33 PM

View PostRorvik, on 27 October 2013 - 06:14 PM, said:

Would it helped if I collected concrete results for every day for the next 3 weeks?


If you'd like, but I doubt there's any correlation. I'm not saying it's your fault or I'm trying to troll you... I simply believe it's only a strange coincidence, possibly related to the time it occurs (8PM EDT) which is North America primetime for this game.

#5 Roland

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 07:11 PM

Collect the data, and see what turns up. Can't hurt.

It wouldn't be the first time their matchmaker was totally busted.

#6 Thimble

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 07:35 PM

PGI's matchmaker runs on hate, pain, and the tears of PUG players.

When fewer people play, they need to crank up the anguish to keep it running at all.

IMO, this is what you are seeing.

Also, I think they have some sort of "seeding" algo that kicks in when to find your Elo faster after big moves... welcome to streak-town.

PS- They can also modify matchmaking on the fly, for what it's worth.

Edited by Thimble, 27 October 2013 - 07:39 PM.


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 04:19 AM

I don't really know. But, it looks like a lot of urban legends are starting to form with regard to the MM.

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 04:48 AM

View PostMystere, on 28 October 2013 - 04:19 AM, said:

I don't really know. But, it looks like a lot of urban legends are starting to form with regard to the MM.

That only happens because of the lack of real information about it, especially the lack of visible Elo scores.

#9 Iskareot

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 06:00 AM

View PostKunae, on 28 October 2013 - 04:48 AM, said:

That only happens because of the lack of real information about it, especially the lack of visible Elo scores.



Lol also it's the weekend. Weekend play is like MM Hell. Compared to normal week play it is a wreck of imbalance. The good news is I hear there is a lobby type system coming not sure when but there is some whispers and I hope they are accurate.

#10 Bilbo

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 06:57 AM

View PostKunae, on 28 October 2013 - 04:48 AM, said:

That only happens because of the lack of real information about it, especially the lack of visible Elo scores.


If they showed Elo scores, people would just complain that their Elo has been artificially lowered by the broken match maker.

As to the OP, I haven't noticed the losing streaks you speak of. My play times straddle the reset time, so I often gets two shots at the bonus with several mechs.

Edited by Bilbo, 28 October 2013 - 06:59 AM.


#11 Kunae

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 06:58 AM

View PostBilbo, on 28 October 2013 - 06:57 AM, said:


If they showed Elo scores, people would just complain that their Elo has been artificially lowered by the broken match maker.

Which just proves that some people will find an excuse to complain about anything.

#12 Mudhutwarrior

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 09:15 AM

As the OP describes I will say I see the same. It is more than weird how I can doo 500+ damage with every mech then just as suddenly I will have 20-25 losses with little damage. I assumed it was just because i was facing a storm of premades but maybe it is MM.

I know somedays I am off because of my disabilty but this is too random and seems to happen in one day then back again.

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 09:17 AM

View PostRorvik, on 27 October 2013 - 05:37 PM, said:

I ask because I've noticed that every time the 2X bonus resets (which is usually once a day, but I've had days where I've gotten in twice), I get into at least a good 5 - 10 game losing streak, with the first 3-6 of them absolute steamrolls.

Then, after about an hour of constantly losing, the MM will suddenly take a ridiculously long time to find a match, at which point I start winning again.

This can't be coincidence that I have these mysteriously horrible losing streaks EVERY single time the bonus resets...

Anyone else notice this?


No

#14 Mudhutwarrior

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 09:20 AM

View PostVodrin Thales, on 28 October 2013 - 09:17 AM, said:


No



Glad thats settled.

#15 Vodrin Thales

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 09:22 AM

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 28 October 2013 - 09:20 AM, said:



Glad thats settled.


I'm just saying that I do not see what the OP does. I have just as many days that I start with a long win streak as a prolonged losing streak. On Saturday I won in 5 different mechs in 5 consecutive matches. It kind of refutes what he is saying and I was trying to state it as succinctly as possible.

#16 SuomiWarder

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 10:55 AM

I have not noticed any correlation to outside events in my win or lose streaks other than time of day and the actual day.

#17 Lyoto Machida

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 11:14 AM

View PostRorvik, on 27 October 2013 - 06:14 PM, said:


Would it helped if I collected concrete results for every day for the next 3 weeks?


No...people will just say it's anecdotal evidence anyways.

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 11:21 AM

I also see long losing streaks (usually >5 games) too when solo PUGing.

#19 Training Instructor

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 12:07 PM

I trust the matchmaker about as much as I trust an Israeli lobbyist in a closed room with Obama.

I have better matches when I pug than when i group up. Why is that? Because the matchmaker, like every other feature coded by this company, is half-baked.

#20 Mudhutwarrior

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 12:27 PM

View PostTraining Instructor, on 29 October 2013 - 12:07 PM, said:

I trust the matchmaker about as much as I trust an Israeli lobbyist in a closed room with Obama.

I have better matches when I pug than when i group up. Why is that? Because the matchmaker, like every other feature coded by this company, is half-baked.



Perfect! Love you man.





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