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#41 Ximix

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:12 AM

While the hardpoints are ok and comparable to the K2, I'm disappointed in the torso and arm movement limitations:

Catapult K2

Torso Movement:

- 110 degrees to each side.

- 16 degrees up and down.

Arm Movement:

- 0 degrees to each side.

- 45 degrees up and down.





Catapult J

Torso Movement:

- 95 degrees to each side.

- 16 degrees up and down.

Arm Movement:

- 0 degrees to each side.

- 30 degrees up and down.



#42 focuspark

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:15 AM

View PostDamocles69, on 05 November 2013 - 09:52 AM, said:

So we are just going to go ahead and completely obsolete the K2 then? Cool cool variety is for scrubs anyway

whathuh?! The K2 can wield dual Gauss, dual UAC5, even dual AC20. Ever been hit by an AC40?!

Trust me, the K2 is FINE!

#43 DonBennos

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:17 AM

You need to know Garth is a Catapult Magician!

Lets ride this "Mad"-Cat with 355XL engine... to make a Hero really different, you need to take advantage of what is different from others. Like a Yen-Lo-Wang is none without a AC-20 in the arm... it´s just meant to be played that way.

Smurfy´s not ready for the Jester yet, but I used the K2... just add a 23 tons 355XL engine and 2 tons for JJ as another 0,5 ton for the 2nd AMS and at last another 2 tons for 3rd and 4th medium laser (because I won´t use smal lasers at all)... which makes 27,5 tons total.

In my example I left space for 4 double heatsinks in the engine itself so 31,5 tons free space... the only modification should be playing with legs armor (33 seems enough for a JJ mech to me) and additional heatsinks. In my example I prefer heatsinks. Maybe exchange one heat sink for a 2nd ton of AMS ammo... but with your ludicrous speed you should reach cover quiet quick.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...82269fa9a975bad


This will be an incredible fast, scare the hell out of everybody looking at it, jumpjeting Cat with an Alpha of 38... take in mind that a 355XL can carry more heat sinks and counts as 2 more heatsinks than a most time used 300XL... it WILL be heat efficient. Maybe we can even use ERllas.

I like this Jester... and even I´m a very poor guy... I will cut the money out of my flesh for it... thank you Garth for putting a smile on my face! ;-)


UPDATED: Smurfy´s works now changed to 350XL for more economy - http://mwo.smurfy-ne...16ec8475935157a

Edited by DonBennos, 05 November 2013 - 12:18 PM.


#44 Ingga Raokai

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:17 AM

K2 with 2JJ huh,.,., not too bad i guess.,.

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:20 AM

View PostDonBennos, on 05 November 2013 - 11:17 AM, said:

You need to know Garth is a Catapult Magician!

Lets ride this "Mad"-Cat with 355XL engine... to make a Hero really different, you need to take advantage of what is different from others. Like a Yen-Lo-Wang is none without a AC-20 in the arm... it´s just meant to be played that way.

Using Skunkworks (Windows Phone app) I can do the Jester loadout now.

2x PPC + 4x ML w/ 300XL or 6x ML w/ 355XL. Both w/ 2x JJ, look fearsome indeed.

View PostIngga Raokai, on 05 November 2013 - 11:17 AM, said:

K2 with 2JJ huh,.,., not too bad i guess.,.

K2 with no ballistics. That means no Gausskittens or AC40kats.

#46 focuspark

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:26 AM

Updated: Smurfy's supports the Jester and there are posts on mechspecs.com with loadouts.

http://www.mechspecs...php?board=180.0

#47 Alistair Winter

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:26 AM

View PostGarth Erlam, on 05 November 2013 - 10:56 AM, said:

[color=cyan]Can you imagine realistic depictions of war?[/color]
Hour 2387213 - we're still on this hill and won't move.
Also Mechs don't exist and are a foolish idea for military vehicles.

Is this where I'm supposed to point out that it's possible to write mature fiction even in unrealistic sci-fi settings? I could provide some examples, if you want. And I don't really see why foolish idea for military vehicles = Buffy the Vampire Slayer-esque comedy, but I guess there's no point in discussing that here.

In case I have offended anyone, I do apologize. There's nothing wrong with high school comedies or Buffy. Joss Whedon is a cool and funny writer/director. If nothing else, I guess this sort of fluff reminds me of the old Battletech cartoons I used to watch as a kid.

Edited by Alistair Winter, 05 November 2013 - 11:27 AM.


#48 Corvus Antaka

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:38 AM

you are teasing us with DFA...

:)

#49 Garth Erlam

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:05 PM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 05 November 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:

Is this where I'm supposed to point out that it's possible to write mature fiction even in unrealistic sci-fi settings? I could provide some examples, if you want. And I don't really see why foolish idea for military vehicles = Buffy the Vampire Slayer-esque comedy, but I guess there's no point in discussing that here.

In case I have offended anyone, I do apologize. There's nothing wrong with high school comedies or Buffy. Joss Whedon is a cool and funny writer/director. If nothing else, I guess this sort of fluff reminds me of the old Battletech cartoons I used to watch as a kid.

[color=cyan]I've written seriously before, but this one was called, you know, the Jester. So... I went with that :)

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...b64e5c30e272edc

There you go, Don Bennos, that's one build I think people will really like :)[/color]

#50 Death Dealer 199

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:12 PM

How much mc to purchase this mech?

#51 Geek Verve

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:13 PM

I'm loving the Jester and will likely buy it. Working on a build that incorporates ERPPC's or PPC's in the ears, though. I've found that when running a Catapult with an XL engine, it helps to have bigger guns to help shield the side torsos.

Edited by Geek Verve, 05 November 2013 - 12:13 PM.


#52 Bilbo

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:14 PM

View PostXimix, on 05 November 2013 - 11:12 AM, said:

While the hardpoints are ok and comparable to the K2, I'm disappointed in the torso and arm movement limitations:

Catapult K2

Torso Movement:

- 110 degrees to each side.

- 16 degrees up and down.

Arm Movement:

- 0 degrees to each side.

- 45 degrees up and down.






Catapult J

Torso Movement:

- 95 degrees to each side.

- 16 degrees up and down.

Arm Movement:

- 0 degrees to each side.

- 30 degrees up and down.





With the addition of JJ, you don't really need the extra arm and torso movement.

#53 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:18 PM

View PostGarth Erlam, on 05 November 2013 - 09:49 AM, said:

[color=cyan]Methinks you're in the wrong topic then, aren't you?[/color]

[color=cyan]I hope everyone enjoys the Mech, I had a lot of fun designing the loadout. [/color]

[color=cyan]And also, yes, the 2nd AMS is to make up for the X-5 :)[/color]

To be honest, it looks OK. Its a mini Flashman with JJs.

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:26 PM

View PostGarth Erlam, on 05 November 2013 - 09:49 AM, said:

[color=#00FFFF]And also, yes, the 2nd AMS is to make up for the X-5 [/color] :)

X-5 is good even without AMS. :)

#55 Sagamore

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:35 PM

View PostInnerSphereNews, on 05 November 2013 - 09:40 AM, said:

“Stay off the comms Voss! Bravo Lance, what is your situation?” replied her Commander, clearly annoyed at her clowning in live combat.


We have VOIP now?

#56 Fang01

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:38 PM

View PostGarth Erlam, on 05 November 2013 - 10:56 AM, said:

[color=cyan]Can you imagine realistic depictions of war?[/color]

Hour 2387213 - we're still on this hill and won't move.

Also Mechs don't exist and are a foolish idea for military vehicles.


Hour 2387350 - Thompson's Commando accidentally stepped in the grass. Sergeant Major made it do pushups

Hour 2387400 - No sir those are OUR mechs on the Uav!

Hour 2388321 - War called on account of PT test

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:41 PM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 05 November 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:

Is this where I'm supposed to point out that it's possible to write mature fiction even in unrealistic sci-fi settings? I could provide some examples, if you want. And I don't really see why foolish idea for military vehicles = Buffy the Vampire Slayer-esque comedy, but I guess there's no point in discussing that here.

In case I have offended anyone, I do apologize. There's nothing wrong with high school comedies or Buffy. Joss Whedon is a cool and funny writer/director. If nothing else, I guess this sort of fluff reminds me of the old Battletech cartoons I used to watch as a kid.

Given that there are no "good guys" in war and we're the combatants, it's generally better to take a light hearted approach to the fictional combat we participate in. Otherwise, given that we fight in the cities, you sir are responsible for countless refugees, dead children, and shattered families. You are a monster.

Happier?

View PostSagamore, on 05 November 2013 - 12:35 PM, said:


We have VOIP now?

Well... C3 exists and the reason she didn't listen was it doesn't work well. :)

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:44 PM

Jester looks nice, and the story was colorful. I will probably buy one...BUT I have to express my displeasure over the choice of hardpoints. The catapult is first and foremost a missile mech. The K-2 (and related later variants) are a side-branch. It feels wrong that the hero mech chosen to represent the cats does not have even one missile hardpoint. I sincerely hope in the future that another hero catapult is created for those of us who are fans of the missile catapults.

Edit: Was there a reason the catapult hero was made WITHOUT missiles? It would be really nice to hear a well-reasoned explanation.

Edited by Praehotec8, 05 November 2013 - 12:46 PM.


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:44 PM

View Postfocuspark, on 05 November 2013 - 12:41 PM, said:

Given that there are no "good guys" in war and we're the combatants, it's generally better to take a light hearted approach to the fictional combat we participate in. Otherwise, given that we fight in the cities, you sir are responsible for countless refugees, dead children, and shattered families. You are a monster.

Happier?


Well... C3 exists and the reason she didn't listen was it doesn't work well. :wub:


She must have let the ANCD include time :o :blink:

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:47 PM

View PostGarth Erlam, on 05 November 2013 - 10:20 AM, said:

[color=cyan]You can all thank TripMeUp for this, but I am now forcing Randall to make the average age of MechWarriors 13.[/color]

Hey I'm forteen. Ok ok 14+24, but still.





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