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#81 Vassago Rain

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 09:15 AM

View PostHeffay, on 11 November 2013 - 09:09 AM, said:


You're comparing number of art assets from the the dogfighting module to MWO at the start of closed beta to determine which game is going to be better?

What other arbitrary and completely meaningless metric would you like to use to confirm your bias that MWO will be dead by next summer?


Common sense.

Big guilds are moving on. Thus, their friends will not be playing MWO. Thus, you won't get a 4 man, let alone a 12 man. Thus, since MWO is terrible single, few will be playing, even if they like the game.

Basic peer pressure.

Oh, and there's the whole issue of nothing happening here, and the main feature being a new shop. I guess you can grind out another 200 million for community warfare.

#82 Heffay

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 09:23 AM

Interesting hypothesis.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 09:25 AM

View PostHeffay, on 11 November 2013 - 09:23 AM, said:

Interesting hypothesis.


Do you see a future for this game, Heffay? Man to man here.

#84 RG Notch

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 09:39 AM

View PostEgomane, on 11 November 2013 - 09:14 AM, said:

You really believe the Mod-Title has any meaning to me? You really believe I strive for power? It's the second time I see you posting this nonsense. I hope you have better judgement of personalities in real life then you do on the net. :D

So then give it up. If it doesn't mean anything stop. I judge people the same way in real life I do on the net. You I judge, based on your postings and that's why I post what I did about you. You continue to prove it everyday.
The really sad people are the ones who don't even have a title who act the same way. It's frightening how emotionally attached to a game they have become. They don't even have a little title to inflate their ego.
Keep blaming the players while PGI continues to fail to deliver on time. Is it 3 weeks after launch yet? UI 2.0 is released? Any new word on CW? HSR fixed? Damn those players. Damn them to hell.

#85 Infernus1986

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 09:40 AM

View PostEgomane, on 08 November 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

Since closed beta we got:
- Betty
- Modules
- Consumables (which are, despite first fears, not pay to win)
- Host state rewind
- Lance command features
- 12 vs 12
- 3rd person view (which is not nearly as game bracking as feared, in fact it is more of a hindrance then a real help)
- a first real tuturial with more to come
- drop preperation time
- some other stuff I probably can't remember right now and I'm not even listing Hero Mechs or Maps.




- Betty : ok
- Modules : ok
- Consumables : Pointless stuff no one wanted
- Host state rewind : doesn't work
- Lance command features : no one uses or listens to them
- 12 vs 12 : made the gameplay worse
- 3rd person view : Pointless waste of time
- a first real tutorial with more to come : I don't know whats more a joke MWO tutorial or Wargame ALB tutorial
- drop preparation time : big deal

That's a pretty shoddy list for a AAA game in a years time

#86 Heffay

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 09:47 AM

View PostVassago Rain, on 11 November 2013 - 09:25 AM, said:

Do you see a future for this game, Heffay? Man to man here.


What does man to man mean?

And yes, I *like you* decided that there is enough of a future to invest in Project Phoenix.

View PostInfernus1986, on 11 November 2013 - 09:40 AM, said:


- Betty : ok
- Modules : ok
- Consumables : Pointless stuff no one wanted
- Host state rewind : doesn't work
- Lance command features : no one uses or listens to them
- 12 vs 12 : made the gameplay worse
- 3rd person view : Pointless waste of time
- a first real tutorial with more to come : I don't know whats more a joke MWO tutorial or Wargame ALB tutorial
- drop preparation time : big deal


Wow... nobody wanted consumables? 12v12 made gameplay worse? Nobody uses lance command features?

You don't play 12 mans, do you?

#87 Infernus1986

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 09:51 AM

View PostHeffay, on 11 November 2013 - 09:47 AM, said:

You don't play 12 mans, do you?


wow that's some hardcore delusion

NO ONE PLAYS 12 MANS

Last time we tried it was the same 2 lances over and over and over

also anyone with 12 people is using voice coms anyway

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 09:53 AM

View PostInfernus1986, on 11 November 2013 - 09:51 AM, said:


wow that's some hardcore delusion

NO ONE PLAYS 12 MANS

Last time we tried it was the same 2 lances over and over and over

also anyone with 12 people is using voice coms anyway


My experience is different than yours. I take it you don't play during US prime time?

Last Thursday's drops we did 6 matches, and met 6 different groups.

Edited by Heffay, 11 November 2013 - 09:59 AM.


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:09 AM

View PostRG Notch, on 11 November 2013 - 09:39 AM, said:

Some stuff


:D Nice try!

Edit: Oh... a hint: I consider you to be among those negative nancies I mentioned earlier. Your posts are colored in negativity. So that alone disqualifies your opinion. Haven't seen anything else from you, that would provoke me into following your suggestion. If you have facts however, bring them forth. I'll listen to facts.

Edited by Egomane, 11 November 2013 - 10:27 AM.


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:34 AM

I haven't played in three weeks so I guess i'm going to get banned from the forums soon. I can't think of a better way to make sure players never return, even if (big if) PGI manages to undo all the damage they've done to the game before the cash runs out.

It's called burning bridges. And devs can do it too.

Edited by mint frog, 11 November 2013 - 10:37 AM.


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:41 AM

View PostEgomane, on 11 November 2013 - 10:09 AM, said:


:D Nice try!

Edit: Oh... a hint: I consider you to be among those negative nancies I mentioned earlier. Your posts are colored in negativity. So that alone disqualifies your opinion. Haven't seen anything else from you, that would provoke me into following your suggestion. If you have facts however, bring them forth. I'll listen to facts.


So if 1000 people have a negative opinion of something that just means there wrong.
Flawless MWO forum logic as usual.

View Postmint frog, on 11 November 2013 - 10:34 AM, said:

It's called burning bridges. And devs can do it too.


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:46 AM

LULZ

All kinds of folks

who don't frequent

K Town in this thread

I'm guessing there was

an offsite QQ

somewhere..

"They're making

fun of us in K Town

[link]"

Adorable.


Edited by Roadbeer, 11 November 2013 - 10:53 AM.


#93 Infernus1986

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:48 AM

View PostRoadbeer, on 11 November 2013 - 10:46 AM, said:

LULZ

All kinds of folks

who don't frequent

K Town in this thread

I'm guessing there was

an offsite QQ

somewhere..

"They're making

fun of us in K Town

[link]"

Adorable.




its ok in a few weeks even ktown will be silent

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:50 AM

View PostInfernus1986, on 11 November 2013 - 10:48 AM, said:

its ok in a few weeks even ktown will be silent



#95 Egomane

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 11:04 AM

View PostInfernus1986, on 11 November 2013 - 10:41 AM, said:

So if 1000 people have a negative opinion of something that just means there wrong.
Flawless MWO forum logic as usual.

If they post constructive about it, don't repeat it like a mantra and do not combine it with insults, personal attacks or threats, I'd listen to them. I said it several times an the forums already: Whenever you have to use bad language or insults to make a point, you didn't have a point to begin with.

You had to add an ad-hominem to your first line, so you just disqualified your point. Want to try again?

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 11:08 AM

View PostEgomane, on 11 November 2013 - 10:09 AM, said:


:D Nice try!

Edit: Oh... a hint: I consider you to be among those negative nancies I mentioned earlier. Your posts are colored in negativity. So that alone disqualifies your opinion. Haven't seen anything else from you, that would provoke me into following your suggestion. If you have facts however, bring them forth. I'll listen to facts.

OOOOOOOOHHHHH I'm a negative nancy! OOOOOOOH how can I live with that. I consider you a shill and worse than most shills and unpaid shill at that. I have never seen anything from you except sucking up and blaming the players who dare to expect PGI fix things, release things or update things in a reasonable manner.
I ask again, who wrote the dev blogs that helped sell Founders on this game? Who sets the deadlines (3 weeks after launch for UI2.0 roll out) that PGI rarely if ever hits? Who set the dates for Open Beta and lol "Launch"? Who hasn't produced one tangible bit of CW? Who set this game in 3050 and hasn't produced one tangible bit of Clan tech? Who removed General Discussions because to many "negative nancies"? Who flubbed the entire 3PV fiasco? Who told Founders they weren't the desired demographic? Who went on vacation and left no one with instructions of ability to fix things? Who has mismanaged this forum into the toxic stew it is? Who has hidden the player counter?
I give you a clue, the players isn't the answer to anyone of these. So I say again, competent developers have nothing to fear from this IP. If and when this flops some one will learn from the missteps this crew has made to stumble into mediocrity at best ( and some of you tools think the the Meh is some type of success) and a dumpster fire at worst. I have little worry that this won't be the last BT/MW game. I do believe it may be the last PGI game though, so enjoy your privileges while they last.

Edited by RG Notch, 11 November 2013 - 11:10 AM.


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 11:17 AM

View PostInfernus1986, on 11 November 2013 - 10:48 AM, said:

its ok in a few weeks even ktown will be silent

It'll be a second "Silent Spring". Posted Image

#98 Heffay

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 11:43 AM

View PostRG Notch, on 11 November 2013 - 11:08 AM, said:

OOOOOOOOHHHHH I'm a negative nancy! OOOOOOOH how can I live with that. I consider you a shill and worse than most shills and unpaid shill at that. I have never seen anything from you except sucking up and blaming the players who dare to expect PGI fix things, release things or update things in a reasonable manner.
I ask again, who wrote the dev blogs that helped sell Founders on this game? Who sets the deadlines (3 weeks after launch for UI2.0 roll out) that PGI rarely if ever hits? Who set the dates for Open Beta and lol "Launch"? Who hasn't produced one tangible bit of CW? Who set this game in 3050 and hasn't produced one tangible bit of Clan tech? Who removed General Discussions because to many "negative nancies"? Who flubbed the entire 3PV fiasco? Who told Founders they weren't the desired demographic? Who went on vacation and left no one with instructions of ability to fix things? Who has mismanaged this forum into the toxic stew it is? Who has hidden the player counter?
I give you a clue, the players isn't the answer to anyone of these. So I say again, competent developers have nothing to fear from this IP. If and when this flops some one will learn from the missteps this crew has made to stumble into mediocrity at best ( and some of you tools think the the Meh is some type of success) and a dumpster fire at worst. I have little worry that this won't be the last BT/MW game. I do believe it may be the last PGI game though, so enjoy your privileges while they last.


Hehe...yeah. Negative Nancy just about sums all that up.

So much angst...

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 01:39 PM

View PostHeffay, on 11 November 2013 - 05:25 AM, said:


The ultimate flame (ultimateflame.com):

You swine. You vulgar little maggot. Don't you know that you are pathetic? You worthless bag of filth. As we say in Texas, I'll bet you couldn't pour **** out of a boot with instructions on the heel. You are a canker. A sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you.

You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad breath. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise everything about you. You are a bloody nardless newbie twit protohominid chromosomally aberrant caricature of a coprophagic cloacal parasitic pond scum and I wish you would go away.

You're a putrescence mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.

You are a bleating fool, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done.

I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell?

If you aren't an *****, you made a world-class effort at simulating one. Try to edit your writing of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly.

You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood. May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs.

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And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake?

You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease, you puerile one-handed slack-jawed drooling meatslapper.

On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go.

I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I'm sorry. I can't go on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me. After this, you may not hear from me again for a while. I don't have enough strength left to deride your ignorant questions and half baked comments about unimportant trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel. Duh.

The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have snipped away most of what you wrote, because, well... it didn't really say anything. Your attempt at constructing a creative flame was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a bunch of insults among a load of babbling was hardly effective... Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us "normal" people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are "challenged" persons in this world who find these things more difficult. If I had known, that this was your case then I would have never read your post. It just wouldn't have been "right". Sort of like parking in a handicap space. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you.

P.S.: You are hypocritical, greedy, violent, malevolent, vengeful, cowardly, deadly, mendacious, meretricious, loathsome, despicable, belligerent, opportunistic, barratrous, contemptible, criminal, fascistic, bigoted, racist, sexist, avaricious, tasteless, idiotic, brain-damaged, imbecilic, insane, arrogant, deceitful, demented, lame, self-righteous, Byzantine, conspiratorial, *******, fraudulent, libelous, bilious, splenetic, spastic, ignorant, clueless, illegitimate, harmful, destructive, dumb, evasive, double-talking, devious, revisionist, narrow, manipulative, paternalistic, fundamentalist, dogmatic, idolatrous, unethical, cultic, diseased, suppressive, controlling, restrictive, malignant, deceptive, dim, crazy, weird, dystopic, stifling, uncaring, plantigrade, grim, unsympathetic, jargon-spouting, censorious, secretive, aggressive, mind-numbing, abrasive, poisonous, flagrant, self-destructive, abusive, socially-********, puerile, clueless, and generally Not Good.


A copypasta? No class. You shame yourself.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 01:59 PM

View PostTychoTheItinerant, on 11 November 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

A copypasta? No class. You shame yourself.

Man,

You can't even

counter-counterflame right.

K Town is no place for you.





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