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[Rhaythe]

It cracks the list, but is lumped in with MW4:

http://www.gameguru....est-mech-games/

(You'll never convince me Hawken is number 1 though)

[8CH Trooper]

EA games is slated to release Titanfall in March of 2014, it's more like Hawken(and Heavy Gear) a fist person shooter than MWO but it will likely take a lot of the casual gamers away from MWO and the graphics are head and shoulders above what we are currently seeing now. If PGI doesn't get things cranked up in the next 3 or 4 months I'm afraid that mediocre reviews won't save it and MWO really won't be much more than what we are seeing right now.

[Rhaythe]

I admit, that game looks real good. Though not enough to make me want to mess with Origin again. I've had nothing but problems with EA's client.

[Heffay]

Rhaythe, on 11 November 2013 - 12:53 PM, said:

I admit, that game looks real good. Though not enough to make me want to mess with Origin again. I've had nothing but problems with EA's client.

Yeah, Origin is a deal killer for me. They should be like GFWL and just give up the DRM ghost.

[Tezcatli]

8CH Trooper, on 11 November 2013 - 12:41 PM, said:

EA games is slated to release Titanfall in March of 2014, it's more like Hawken(and Heavy Gear) a fist person shooter than MWO but it will likely take a lot of the casual gamers away from MWO and the graphics are head and shoulders above what we are currently seeing now. If PGI doesn't get things cranked up in the next 3 or 4 months I'm afraid that mediocre reviews won't save it and MWO really won't be much more than what we are seeing right now.

Yeah I guess. But like you said, it's more of a FPS, then a mech game. I don't think that many people will leave. It's not like it's going to be free to play either.

Meh. This is still a better "Mech" game then Hawken.

[Roadbeer]

Heffay, on 11 November 2013 - 12:57 PM, said:

Yeah, Origin is a deal killer for me. They should be like GFWL and just give up the DRM ghost.

Same, i've been kicked in the coinpurse too many times from Origin and EA to give them another moments worth of thought.

[Sandpit]

Except for Madden and Need for Speed (i'm a glutton when it comes to those two) EA could suck donkey toes.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Tezcatli, on 11 November 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

Meh. This is still a better "Mech" game then Hawken.

Doesn't take much to be a better mech game than a generic 1P shooter with mech painted over it
(note I have not played it - but watching the videos make my sim-loving heart sad)

Edited by Shar Wolf, 11 November 2013 - 08:05 PM.

[MadcatX]

I have a love\hate relationship with EA.

On one hand, they did publish many games/franchises I love.

On the other hand, they utterly destroyed some others (i think every game in the Command & Conquer franchise after 3 was just... wrong. I really enjoyed westwood studios before they were acquired).

[CrashieJ]

MadcatX, on 11 November 2013 - 08:26 PM, said:

I have a love\hate relationship with EA.

On one hand, they did publish many games/franchises I love.

On the other hand, they utterly destroyed some others (i think every game in the Command & Conquer franchise after 3 was just... wrong. I really enjoyed westwood studios before they were acquired).

*vomits*

[Tezcatli]

Shar Wolf, on 11 November 2013 - 08:04 PM, said:

Doesn't take much to be a better mech game than a generic 1P shooter with mech painted over it
(note I have not played it - but watching the videos make my sim-loving heart sad)

And yet there really isn't anything out there. : /

[Laniarty]

MadcatX, on 11 November 2013 - 08:26 PM, said:

(i think every game in the [insert franchise here] after EA was just... wrong. I really enjoyed [insert developer here] before they were acquired).

Fixed for you. Pretty much sums up EA.

Edited by Laniarty, 11 November 2013 - 10:49 PM.

[Rhaythe]

Shar Wolf, on 11 November 2013 - 08:04 PM, said:

Doesn't take much to be a better mech game than a generic 1P shooter with mech painted over it
(note I have not played it - but watching the videos make my sim-loving heart sad)

It's not horrible. It really isn't. But nor is it really a "mech" game aside from the fact that it has mechs. The tactics and gameplay are directly lifted out of Call of Duty. It's literally as though someone sat in a board room and said, "Call of Duty is popular. There aren't many mech games. I know!!"

So if that's your cup of tea, more power to you. I drop into that game occasionally myself. But as far as being the best mech game? No. Blacklight: Retribution has better mech mechanics in the game than Hawken does.

[MadcatX]

Laniarty, on 11 November 2013 - 10:45 PM, said:

Fixed for you. Pretty much sums up EA.

No, you fixed that for yourself

I very much enjoyed the Dead Space franchise made by Visceral.

[Dr Herbert West]

Rhaythe, on 11 November 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

(You'll never convince me Hawken is number 1 though)

Tezcatli, on 11 November 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

Meh. This is still a better "Mech" game then Hawken.

They said the list was in "no particular order," so they're not saying Hawken is the best.

Hawken is a completely different game than MWO, but if Spiders and Jenners have a place in MWO, then Hawken is just as much a mech game as MWO. Think of it like MWO with only lights and meds, only the mechs run slower, but are more jumpy.

Although I, as well as everyone else on this forum I presume, prefer mech games more like MWO/MW4 (i.e. slower, walking tank gameplay ... again forgetting about spiders/jenners), MWO could learn volumes from Hawken.

Chief among what MWO could learn from Hawken is the new player experience. I was tired of MWO (see 3PV thread) so I DLed Hawken just for the hell of it. I read nothing about how the controls worked or how all the robots were balanced. I was immediately thrown into a tutorial that clearly explained to me all of the game's mechanics.

I was given a free mech to start, and within 10-15 matches, I had been given 6 other mechs (one from each of their 7, loosely defined, archetypes of mechs). Oh, and the stock configurations for the mechs aren't deathtraps.

I was even given some free HC (Hawken's version of MC).

Of course, getting more mechs and customizing the ones I had required XP/money (i.e. time), but as a new player I was, very quickly, able to play a mech suited to my desired playstyle and get into the game.

[Rhaythe]

Like I mentioned previously, I'm not saying Hawken is bad by any means. In my mind, there's mechs and there's mecha. Western mechs and Japanese mechs. Hawken falls directly into the latter category with Armored Core and Macross as opposed to Mechwarrior.

Edited by Rhaythe, 12 November 2013 - 09:18 AM.

[Mechteric]

Front Mission Evolved was a joke, really shouldn't be on any top of lists.

[Gremlich Johns]

Tezcatli, on 11 November 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

Yeah I guess. But like you said, it's more of a FPS, then a mech game.

MWO is ostensibly an FPS with mechs.

[Abivard]

Gremlich Johns, on 12 November 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

MWO is ostensibly an FPS with mechs.

And 3pv, so no, it is not an FPS by any means.

Nor did it make the list, it was simply a footnote under MW4 that mentions someone made an online game with the same lore.

[MadcatX]

Abivard, on 12 November 2013 - 02:33 PM, said:

And 3pv, so no, it is not an FPS by any means.

Nor did it make the list, it was simply a footnote under MW4 that mentions someone made an online game with the same lore.

All the big-budget FPS's are 3pv, switching to 1pv if you look down the sights/scope. Even story-heavy games like Fallout and Bioshock franchises still fall under an action-FPS's.

Although the terminology is a bit confusing (FPS being first person shooter), but that originates from the old school shooters such as doom\quake\wolfenstein where it truely was first person view only. I've seen the term "modern FPS" used to describe the use of 3pv camera angles in shooters.