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[sneeking]

all I want now is a 2nd centurion and ill have to buy more MC oh call the wahhmbulance....

[sneeking]

and six million to add hill climb to my new centurion ( yenlo ) 4 modules once mastered. so lookiny forward to that.

[Deconstructor]

C Lochiel, on 20 November 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

This is not a complaint thread. I am fully aware MWO is here to pay someone's bills and all that. In fact, I went to buy some MC because I wanted to support MWO and keep the bills paid. I figured that because I was enjoying the game it deserved my financial support. And I figured I'd spend $15 or so, get a Hero mech I can't get any other way, spend the remainder on paint or something.

So I was fairly surprised when I saw that a Hero Assault mech cost $40. For reference, I rarely spend $30 on a full game. I say this without vitriol, that price tag dissuaded me from buying a mech with real money. I cannot comprehend people who own multiple hero mechs.

So, I ask this out of curiosity; why is any single mech worth spending $40 for? Am I missing another, less expensive, way of acquiring MC? Help me understand this. I'm perfectly willing to only spend MC on paint, mech bays, and premium time; but before I do I'd like to understand why Hero Mechs are priced so high.

The answer is simple — the greed.

[sneeking]

meh

[Autobot9000]

It's absolutely outrageous, I support the OP. But we have to face the facts: The whole gaming industry tries at the moment how far price points can be pushed. There is much publicly accessible material, that shows, that the business people behind the games use a business model, that isn't based on a one-guy one-price policy, but it's entirely based on a few-people with high-spending policy. Some F2P games follow a policy, that tries to make people stick to game as long as possible and based on the belief, that the longer you stay with a game, the more money you might spend on it. Other games focus on a monthly subscribership and there are many others. I think the whole gaming industry will recognize some day, that their customers view this as being bullshitted. Computer games aren't worth more than the 50-60 dollars (that's actually quite a lot) and people aren't accepting low content on launch, add more later models for simple reason: You have no idea when stuff comes out and what it will be anyway. This isn't surprising, it's the same with all products. You wouldn't buy a car, that ships with 2 seats and no driver assistance with the promise, that "something" will be added later. You utterly laugh at a salesman trying to sell you such an easter egg. People want a full content game for a fixed price.
The whole F2P is a failure. Let's be honest, if you like a game, you should spend some money on it and for trying things out there are demo versions. F2P is just an attempt to find a model, that gives higher revenues through sneaky business models and people hate it, because they don't know what they are getting for the money and it's way too much money in the first place (and some games are even pay-to-win).

Edited by Autobot9000, 22 November 2013 - 03:27 AM.

[sneeking]

yes they target spend whores , are you a spend ***** are you ?

[sneeking]

there is a flaw in your logic though, if your sold a car it comes as is and if you think its viable to add it later with a micro transaction your kidding your self.

you cant compare the scalability of softwar against hardware items.

micro transaction works in software and ensures that whill $$$ rolls in then they keep support on for the product.

[Kotzi]

Classic way works too, but f2p makes a lot more money. It only saddens me, when Gameseries got ripped and their carcasses are tossed away. Is there enough financial potency for the devlopers/publishers to actually risk their profit for more content? Would you dare?

[Turist0AT]

why is any single mech worth spending $40 for?

Its not.

People who do, usually have jobs and can afford to pay these crazy prices, like myself.
In the end its only pixels without any promises. And PGI dont owe us sh't, they can take that favorite 40$ mech of yours and turn it into scrap and you cant do nothing, remember that when you are paying.

[Muffinator]

FWIW I'm not against spending money on this game - I'm maybe $250 in so far - and I really want a Misery but when I figured out how much they cost I was shocked. They are not good value in any way. I reluctantly decided not to buy, same as you.

[Viper2112]

I am brand new to this game but I played all the old MW games and the pen and per version since the 1980's. I was looking through topics and saw this one and figured id give a answer relating this to another game I play quite a bit. $40 for a Assault mech seems right in line for most top/high tier game vehicles. I also play WOT(world of tanks) if you want to get say a higher tier heavy tank in that game unless its on sale it costs between $45-50 for that.so $40 here seems about par for the course and I didnt/dont find anything unusual about that price..if id guessed id have said $50 not $40.

[Nick Makiaveli]

Mycrus, on 20 November 2013 - 07:44 PM, said:

So my hero count

Assault - Boar's head / dragon slayer / pretty baby
Heavy - Fang / Flame / Jester / Muromets
Medium - Wang
Light - TDK

I buy them - because I can..

Look at it this way... I use a usd80 laptop bag for work... My wife uses a usd2000 handbag (this is "low end" in handbag terms)..

Either buy what you like or don't.. Stop acting like a spacepoor and complain about prices...

Btw, jobs are OP.

2K for a handbag and you consider that low end? Yea you have a clue what it's like for those that make less than 2k a month.

Oh and for the record, I will be getting the Overlord soon, but I bought it piecemeal so as to not tax the budget, I don't own any other special mechs, outside of Sarah's Jenner, but that's different. BTW, the "engagement" ring my wife got me has diamonds surrounding a sapphire so dark people think it's an onyx at first glance, and my son attends the best private school in the state (region actually). So yea I have job (my wife only works PT but she's getting her PhD), but I also don't **** away money, and i for damn sure don't make fun of people who don't have a lot. So go ahead and wave what you think is a huge epeen around, not many of us are impressed.

Deconstructor, on 22 November 2013 - 01:03 AM, said:

The answer is simple — the greed.

And your point is?? You do know that PGI is a company that has to make payroll right? It's not just a group of guys working a couple of hours a week and trying to get us to pay them for it.

Even if it was, who put a ******* gun to your head? Play the game if it's fun, don't if it's not. I love LotR, first read it when I was 12, but the gameplay in LotR MMO not to mention the F2P mechanic turned me off it. I have a buddy who plays Rift, so I have an account and yea on a whim I dropped $5 on "credits" to get access to sell on the AH and wound up spending $.25 worth (yes a quarter) on a faster mount. Worst case if I quit playing I will give the account to my buddy so he can use it as a mule/trading account. Either way I am having fun with it and will get my money's worth one way or another.

Seriously, learn about the real world. You don't work for free, and if you live for free it's because you leech off your folks or society.

Edited by Nick Makiaveli, 22 November 2013 - 10:25 PM.

[Mycrus]

Nick Makiaveli, on 22 November 2013 - 10:16 PM, said:

you have a clue what it's like for those that make less than 2k a month.

Try $300 a month... That was my first paycheck..

You work you buy the things that you like.

Don't complain that digital pixels should cost less.

[sneeking]

Turist0AT, on 22 November 2013 - 05:38 PM, said:

why is any single mech worth spending $40 for?

Its not.

People who do, usually have jobs and can afford to pay these crazy prices, like myself.
In the end its only pixels without any promises. And PGI dont owe us sh't, they can take that favorite 40$ mech of yours and turn it into scrap and you cant do nothing, remember that when you are paying.

some cold hard truth there, you spend real money from a real credit card to buy an in game device that works a certain way. and then after a week or so it gets nerfed badly making it useless and unfit for the purpose you actualy purchased it.

[Ecto Cooler]

Autobot9000, on 22 November 2013 - 03:22 AM, said:

Computer games aren't worth more than the 50-60 dollars (that's actually quite a lot) and people aren't accepting low content on launch, add more later models for simple reason: You have no idea when stuff comes out and what it will be anyway.

$50-60 is not a lot anymore, especially with video games.

Nintendo games used to sell for $50 and think about how awful many of them were. Games have come a long way in terms of production and technology and with that, the price has to increase to stay profitable. GTA5 is the most expensive game ever created at around $265M, think of how many copies and DLC you need to sell to make a profit from that.

The fact is that games don't cost $50 for a full title anymore and haven't for a long time. Between getting all the launch content with a Collector's Edition and buying additional DLC, you're spending a few hundred on a single title before you know it. The pricing scheme of $50 for a full title and everything to go with it is antiquated, and I'm okay with this based on what capabilities games have today.

[Alaskan Nobody]

sneeking, on 22 November 2013 - 11:31 PM, said:

some cold hard truth there, you spend real money from a real credit card to buy an in game device that works a certain way. and then after a week or so it gets nerfed badly making it useless and unfit for the purpose you actualy purchased it.

Cold Hard truth here to: everything you buy that has you sign something, voids them of a certain amount of responsibility for it after you buy it.
Sometimes even Real World objects do just what you are complaining about these Virtual World objects do.

As far as gaming is concerned, YES.
That is one of the facts of life.
That is one of the facts of GAMING life.

It bothers you?
Don't buy.

But recognize that your dislike of it does not mean that it is unreasonable.

[Viper2112]

But also remember for those that buy the stuff..they help keep the game going...if no one spent $$ the game would either cease to exist, have no support staff to keep patches/upgrades coming,etc,etc... over in WOT they call the guys that buy the stuff "wallet warriors" guys get mad at them because they spent $$ to buy a tank instead of "grind" to it...thing is without those guys there would not be a game most likely..at least not as good a game. It will be a while before I "buy" anything here as im just learning the ropes...but I have a feeling as long as my system runs this well enough to play relatively lag free...I will buy something as a "Christmas Present" to myself.

[DrSlamastika]

Hell yeah Ok you got me, I ll buy omething for Xmas too . . .

[Gremlich Johns]

There is something inherently wrong with purchasing a virtual in-game item that roughly equals the price of a game itself.

This does not prevent people from throwing disposable income at it.

Choose to, or choose to not - your conscience is your guide.

Edited by Gremlich Johns, 23 November 2013 - 07:06 AM.

[Alex Warden]

Ilya muromets is still the best deal imho... just saying