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[Joseph Mallan]

Shadow Hawk

I'm not really a fan of the Ultra 5/LRM10 combo

Was thinking of trying this or this.

Any other constructive suggestions?

[FupDup]

Uh....why are you using FF in place of Endo Steel? And CASE on an XL engine mech?


Anyways, here is what I use on my Shaq 5M: SHD-5M. It performed reasonably well.

Edited by FupDup, 21 November 2013 - 05:39 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

FupDup, on 21 November 2013 - 05:39 AM, said:

Uh....why are you using FF in place of Endo Steel? And CASE on an XL engine mech?


Anyways, here is what I use on my Shaq 5M: SHD-5M. It performed reasonably well.

I had tonnage but space left!

Not a fan of Streaks, but I do like the build. I can see the reliability in it.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 21 November 2013 - 05:47 AM.

[Mr David]

FupDups build is pretty good and one of the best for the 5M, but the 2D2 can do it better with more streaks at the cost of some JJs. To get a unique build on the 5M, I run with 2 AC5 w/ 5t ammo, 2ml, 2JJ XL 275 and 4 tons for whatever missles/ammo you like. It gets consistent high damage. You can also make a decent medium poptart w/ gauss +ER PPC and whatever JJ you can fit.

[Nehkrosis]

Quick Q?

does CASE count as a crit space, and thus, Pad?

[Joseph Mallan]

Mr David, on 21 November 2013 - 06:21 AM, said:

FupDups build is pretty good and one of the best for the 5M, but the 2D2 can do it better with more streaks at the cost of some JJs. To get a unique build on the 5M, I run with 2 AC5 w/ 5t ammo, 2ml, 2JJ XL 275 and 4 tons for whatever missles/ammo you like. It gets consistent high damage. You can also make a decent medium poptart w/ gauss +ER PPC and whatever JJ you can fit.

I have seen a few double AC Hawks but assumed it was double deuces. I don't play as a Pop Tart, doesn't feel right to me as a avid TT player.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 21 November 2013 - 06:29 AM.

[Troutmonkey]

Nehkrosis, on 21 November 2013 - 06:24 AM, said:

Quick Q?

does CASE count as a crit space, and thus, Pad?

I assumed that the ammo could detenate well before the torso was completely torn off. That's why I've got case on mine anyway.

[Joseph Mallan]

Troutmonkey, on 21 November 2013 - 06:38 AM, said:

I assumed that the ammo could detenate well before the torso was completely torn off. That's why I've got case on mine anyway.

For me since we don't have to pay for repairs, C.A.S.E. is not a necessity as much as a luxury.

[N a p e s]

Here are my two favorite SHD-5M builds.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c047095c78074d7

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...17adcb72d52fac2

The build with the gauss plays the long range game pretty well suppressing with the LRMs and doing most of its damage with the gauss. On the other hand the dual AC5 build is a bit more versatile starting off doing some mid range damage but capable of closing in as well.

[Alistair Winter]

My SHD-5M had 2LLs and 2AC5s.

Not a great build, but not terrible either. When it runs out of ammo, you still have 2 LLs. It doesn't have JJs though. Can't have everything in life

[Joseph Mallan]

Looks interesting Al. By that I mean it is worth a run & not like the Chinese Curse!

@Napes, also nice builds. As the Game stands the AC5 build is more intriguing right now.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 21 November 2013 - 06:51 AM.

[Troutmonkey]

Alistair Winter, on 21 November 2013 - 06:46 AM, said:

My SHD-5M had 2LLs and 2AC5s.

Not a great build, but not terrible either. When it runs out of ammo, you still have 2 LLs. It doesn't have JJs though. Can't have everything in life

Needs way more ammo. I'm running about 6 tonnes with my 2x AC5s and still run out

[Selfish]

Joseph Mallan, on 21 November 2013 - 05:45 AM, said:

I had tonnage but space left!

You're using a small engine and losing out on upgrades by stuffing DHS. You can upgrade to an XL 300, add endo, and drop CASE for the same weight with more speed.

CASE doesn't do anything for a mech with an XL engine. It only prevents explosions from traveling into the CT. In an XL mech you'll die from an ammo explosion before CASE can perform its function.

Most builds for the SHD are going to be projectile/energy based until SRMs receive an HSR update. Even then, the ballistic hardpoints are so well positioned that not using them is a shame. I really enjoy 2x Mlas, 2x AC/5 on the 5M.

[Dracol]

I've had great success running an erppc and an AC/10. But then again, it's not for everyone. Its a fast, jumping, sniper build very similar to the trebs I used to run b4 the screen shake nerf awhile back.

[Alistair Winter]

Troutmonkey, on 21 November 2013 - 06:58 AM, said:

Needs way more ammo. I'm running about 6 tonnes with my 2x AC5s and still run out

Depends on how you play. I used the 2LL as the primary weapon, and only combined it with the 2AC5 when I was 100% certain of hitting my target. The AC5 is there for short engagements with maximum firepower. There's not a lot of medium mechs out there with the same pinpoint damage alpha strike.

You have to realize that 2LLs & 2AC5 is as much firepower as some assault mechs carry. Such as my Victor 9S, for example. So it goes without saying that you can't let rip with the ballistics like a crazy person.

I suppose, as a compromise, you could do something between my build and Napes' build. One LL and one ML in the arm, freeing up more weight for ammo and JJs. But I never make compromises, personally

[Joseph Mallan]

Selfish, on 21 November 2013 - 06:59 AM, said:

You're using a small engine and losing out on upgrades by stuffing DHS. You can upgrade to an XL 300, add endo, and drop CASE for the same weight with more speed.

CASE doesn't do anything for a mech with an XL engine. It only prevents explosions from traveling into the CT. In an XL mech you'll die from an ammo explosion before CASE can perform its function.

Most builds for the SHD are going to be projectile/energy based until SRMs receive an HSR update. Even then, the ballistic hardpoints are so well positioned that not using them is a shame. I really enjoy 2x Mlas, 2x AC/5 on the 5M.

The Hawk I posted has 11 Double SInks in a 275 XL S You missed the mark on what I did a little. Your Build does look good.

Dracol, on 21 November 2013 - 07:00 AM, said:

I've had great success running an erppc and an AC/10. But then again, it's not for everyone. Its a fast, jumping, sniper build very similar to the trebs I used to run b4 the screen shake nerf awhile back.

This was a good build on m Treb-K

Alistair Winter, on 21 November 2013 - 07:05 AM, said:

I suppose, as a compromise, you could do something between my build and Napes' build. One LL and one ML in the arm, freeing up more weight for ammo and JJs. But I never make compromises, personally

Stop falling in love with me. You'll only embarrass yourself!

+1 if you know where the line comes from!

[Bishop Steiner]

SHD-5MSuperEnforcer

and

SHD-2D2

these are my go-to SHADs. I like to stay at medium range for the early part of the fight, then move in. Both snipe excellently, especially in urban environs, with the AC.

I don't really have a go-to on the 2H, been trading off between this SHD-2H , and one with 2 AC5 and a large laser. SHD-2H

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 21 November 2013 - 07:28 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

That 5M looks like a beast! Hot, but a beast!

[Bishop Steiner]

Joseph Mallan, on 21 November 2013 - 07:18 AM, said:

That 5M looks like a beast! Hot, but a beast!

it's manageable. I have them link fired on one trigger, and chain on the other. But yeah, I do take coolshot.

[N a p e s]

Selfish, on 21 November 2013 - 06:59 AM, said:

You're using a small engine and losing out on upgrades by stuffing DHS. You can upgrade to an XL 300, add endo, and drop CASE for the same weight with more speed.

CASE doesn't do anything for a mech with an XL engine. It only prevents explosions from traveling into the CT. In an XL mech you'll die from an ammo explosion before CASE can perform its function.

Most builds for the SHD are going to be projectile/energy based until SRMs receive an HSR update. Even then, the ballistic hardpoints are so well positioned that not using them is a shame. I really enjoy 2x Mlas, 2x AC/5 on the 5M.

Its too bad that SRMs are suffering from hit reg issues that makes them less appealing because they're much easier to carry in numbers. I did end up caving and built my 2H around a complement of SRMs intsead of focusing on ballistics and I love the damn thing even more now. If they get the SRMs to work properly on a consistent basis this thing will be even better.