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[thorhauge]

which one would u choose off the two Misery or the Ilya Muromets

[DarkDevilDancer]

Misery was good when you could pack it full of ppcs and a gauss ruffle, these days it's not really much better than your standard stalkers like the tried and true 3F.

Illya offers the ability to carry 3 ballistics like a trio of UAC 5, or lb10x, both builds can work really well but unless your going to use those the slots your better off with a 3D, illya is on of my favourites.

[thorhauge]

what about such http://mwo.smurfy-ne...622949ddf2cda06

[VikingN1nja]

Depends on chassis you use most and prefer, also if you like phracts & UAC's the ILYA is for you or If you really love stalkers and want a ballistic then that is the one.

Which is better depends again on what chassis you prefer. Both are good I do wish UAC's didn't jam as much.

Personally Misery.

Edited by omegaorgun, 25 November 2013 - 07:08 AM.

[Maverick27]

Totally different machines but my vote is for the Ilya. As said before unless you're going to go for 3x ballistics, the 3D may be better but for me 3x AC5 and 2x AC5 + LBX10 have been amazing.

[3rdworld]

Misery

[Training Instructor]

Ilya is still the gold standard of hero mechs, in my opinion.

It can do some real loadouts that other mechs cannot, such as the triple LB10X build. *No, that build isn't a joke if you're paired up with a good assault to support*

[Garonis Buhallin]

I have both. Both are nasty to deal with.I have been running the 3 LBX-10 with the Ilya, and 4 ER large and an A/C 20 in the Misery.

[thorhauge]

I'm really happy with the stalker chassis but three big ballistic is just wonderful

Edited by thorhauge, 25 November 2013 - 07:15 AM.

[Turist0AT]

Thats a tough choice. I say both. If you need to choose, get ILYA first then Misery..... or the other way around... dammit!

[VIPER2207]

thorhauge, on 25 November 2013 - 06:54 AM, said:

what about such http://mwo.smurfy-ne...622949ddf2cda06

ILYA MUROMETS 'FTFY'

[Bishop Steiner]

thorhauge, on 25 November 2013 - 05:36 AM, said:

which one would u choose off the two Misery or the Ilya Muromets

Ilya has far more tactical flexibility. If you just wan't to hillhump, use the Misery, it's a solid beast, with a very limited role. The Ilya easily carries enough motor to get all over the battlefield doling out pain. I use mine as a hunter killer, cruising the field at 86 kph, looking for overextended or inattentive prey. When I find it, I pounce using my dual ac10s and 2 mediums, reducing it to shredded taco meat in short order.

The Misery, by contrast, is slow, fat and has poor maneuverability. It is good for defilade fire, but easily flanked in almost all other scenario. The only time I fear a Stalker of any stripe is when it's part of a unit keeping you pinned down with an open field between you.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 25 November 2013 - 08:19 AM.

[Mc JR]

Misery all the way. I run with 2 er ppc's, 1 LPL, and a AC 10

[MeiSooHaityu]

I have both, and I would pick the Ilya hands down.

Now granted, I am not much of an Assault pilot, but I can say that the Misery will never change my mind. The mech is slow, lumbering (even with a large engine). It's loadout is nothing special unless you REALLY want 1 ballistic hardpoint on your Stalker.

The Ilya has 3 Ballistic and 3 Energy. It has a great balance between ballistic and energy (important in the Ballistic heavy meta). I run 3 LBX10, 3MLaser but you can run the ever popular 3 UA/C5 or 3 A/C5 setup. You could also go heavier on the energy weapons (since they are mounted high in the chassis), and go less on the ballistics.

Overall, the Ilya is the far better machine IMO. I am coming from an anti Assault bias, but I do love my Victor Assault if that means anything. Granted the Victor is more of a heavier Heavy mech, but it still is technically an Assault (and the only Assault I really like).

[thorhauge]

I lean more and more to Ilya, I would say

[Samziel]

CTF-3D is overall better than Ilya for the current meta, although I fear triple LBX Ilya myself. The jumpjets really do make a difference.

Both are good but I would go for Misery.

Edited by Samziel, 26 November 2013 - 12:20 AM.

[Praehotec8]

Bishop Steiner, on 25 November 2013 - 08:13 AM, said:

The Misery, by contrast, is slow, fat and has poor maneuverability. It is good for defilade fire, but easily flanked in almost all other scenario. The only time I fear a Stalker of any stripe is when it's part of a unit keeping you pinned down with an open field between you.

I don't own an Ilya, but Misery is my favorite. It has little long-range power, but I am happy to engage any mech 1v1 in a brawl. I can win most of the time with its 63 point alpha. In fact, I would say that when I lose it is usually either due to pilot error (mine), pilot skill (my opponent), or being outnumbered (no mech does well 3v1). It's rarely the fault or a lack of utility of the mech. I'm not saying the Ilya isn't better, but the Misery is a darn fine mech.

If only the inner sphere would learn to practice Zellbrigen =)

[Ewigan]

Ilya with triple UAC5 and some backup lasers is a beast.

A Misery with 3 LL and an AC20 is a force to be reckoned with...

get em both

[John MatriX82]

Between those two.. Misery. But I'd go with my recently bought Dragon Slayer (thanks to special forces sale) instead of them both.

I have the Ilya and I deeply regret it to a point that I've even asked to PGI if they could refund it to me, but they refused since the thing already saw too many battles.
To clarify, it's a good hero, but I can't stand to get stuck anywhere due to the movement nerf, it lacks of JJs, combinated with the low-mounted arms, almost obliged XL, big side torsoes, lack of tank-twisting capability and thus the need to expose completely in order to shoot, have made it become a second liner for me.

[MeiSooHaityu]

John MatriX82, on 26 November 2013 - 01:54 AM, said:

I have the Ilya and I deeply regret it...

You just described my Misery LOL. I never asked for a refund, I just chaulk it up to a poor decision on my part.

I think REALLY a person needs to ask themselves in this situation..."What mech class do I really prefer to pilot?" Then once you can answer that, pick your poison.