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[Varent]

eh its fine I think I finally realized where noesis is coming from actually. its quite apparent he is a light pilot and is focused on buffing them.

[stjobe]

Varent, on 06 January 2014 - 01:22 AM, said:

eh its fine I think I finally realized where noesis is coming from actually. its quite apparent he is a light pilot and is focused on buffing them.

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Ad hominem
You attacked your opponent's character or personal traits in an attempt to undermine their argument.

Ad hominem attacks can take the form of overtly attacking somebody, or more subtly casting doubt on their character or personal attributes as a way to discredit their argument. The result of an ad hom attack can be to undermine someone's case without actually having to engage with it.

https://yourlogicalf....com/ad-hominem

Edited by stjobe, 06 January 2014 - 01:29 AM.

[Varent]

stjobe, on 06 January 2014 - 01:25 AM, said:

https://yourlogicalf....com/ad-hominem

No one cares jobe. He is defending something for the same class hes attacking it for. I believe the facts line up quite clearly there and your defending him because your views match his. That's pretty transparent.

[Noesis]

Varent, on 06 January 2014 - 01:22 AM, said:

eh its fine I think I finally realized where noesis is coming from actually. its quite apparent he is a light pilot and is focused on buffing them.

Incorrect, Noesis plays all roles.

Mech stats:

Spoiler

Hard to believe that some of us might have more egalitarian concerns about gaming balance eh?

Edited by Noesis, 06 January 2014 - 01:50 AM.

[Varent]

Noesis, on 06 January 2014 - 01:38 AM, said:

Incorrect, Noesis plays all roles.

Mech stats:

Spoiler

Mech' Matches Played Wins Losses Ratio Kills Deaths Ratio Damage Done XP Earned Time Played JENNER JR7-D 107 56 50 1.12 62 57 1.09 18,967 71,148 11:08:58 JENNER JR7-F 60 36 24 1.50 31 26 1.19 9,245 41,549 05:56:49 CENTURION CN9-A 66 37 28 1.32 32 35 0.91 11,843 48,692 06:33:29 CATAPULT CPLT-C1 11 5 6 0.83 5 7 0.71 2,794 5,691 01:09:15 CATAPULT CPLT-A1 40 21 19 1.11 29 23 1.26 9,317 38,260 03:53:19 AWESOME AWS-8R 59 27 32 0.84 84 38 2.21 28,558 59,124 05:21:27 ATLAS AS7-D 24 11 13 0.85 26 16 1.63 8,708 27,258 02:22:20 ATLAS AS7-D-DC 26 14 12 1.17 19 13 1.46 6,733 19,798 02:38:45 ATLAS AS7-RS 36 21 15 1.40 26 19 1.37 11,658 38,358 03:21:19 JENNER JR7-K 95 55 40 1.38 56 41 1.37 15,685 70,397 10:11:53 HUNCHBACK HBK-4SP 44 25 18 1.39 27 18 1.50 7,985 34,130 04:18:52 DRAGON DRG-5N 2 0 2 0.00 2 2 1.00 620 1,002 00:07:31 CATAPULT CPLT-C4 1 1 0 1.00 1 0 1.00 309 2,140 00:07:32 CENTURION CN9-AL 41 24 17 1.41 33 21 1.57 7,907 33,342 03:36:37 CENTURION CN9-D 35 21 14 1.50 33 16 2.06 8,693 33,130 03:12:00 AWESOME AWS-8T 7 4 3 1.33 10 3 3.33 3,239 20,031 00:45:51 AWESOME AWS-8V 9 4 5 0.80 6 6 1.00 3,868 15,651 01:02:12 AWESOME AWS-9M 25 18 7 2.57 14 12 1.17 7,266 21,158 02:08:57 RAVEN RVN-3L 106 52 52 1.00 26 50 0.52 9,623 59,465 11:54:57 RAVEN RVN-4X 15 6 9 0.67 7 9 0.78 1,673 9,990 01:35:01 CICADA CDA-3M 20 8 12 0.67 6 10 0.60 2,929 16,215 01:43:18 CATAPHRACT CTF-3D 27 10 17 0.59 28 18 1.56 6,965 27,071 02:18:00 CATAPHRACT CTF-1X 4 3 1 3.00 0 4 0.00 762 3,729 00:16:18 YEN-LO-WANG 41 22 19 1.16 39 18 2.17 10,736 36,274 03:28:50 STALKER STK-5M 69 40 29 1.38 81 27 3.00 26,618 100,986 08:14:23 STALKER STK-3F 50 28 22 1.27 76 24 3.17 20,197 62,564 05:15:08 STALKER STK-5S 90 46 44 1.05 87 41 2.12 35,451 108,861 09:38:07 SPIDER SDR-5D 110 67 40 1.68 37 42 0.88 10,546 91,228 13:43:47 SPIDER SDR-5K 8 4 4 1.00 5 4 1.25 1,191 8,737 00:57:26 FLAME 6 3 3 1.00 5 4 1.25 2,199 5,622 00:32:55 PRETTY BABY 45 22 23 0.96 30 23 1.30 12,294 33,287 04:15:05 TREBUCHET TBT-7M 154 76 76 1.00 54 81 0.67 21,320 90,969 16:43:00 TREBUCHET TBT-3C 87 45 38 1.18 39 49 0.80 12,791 56,060 08:30:26 TREBUCHET TBT-5J 67 36 30 1.20 17 31 0.55 8,875 40,127 06:35:25 THE X-5 83 41 42 0.98 50 48 1.04 16,952 61,675 07:55:40 JAGERMECH JM6-DD 50 31 19 1.63 66 27 2.44 15,819 44,129 04:06:00 JAGERMECH JM6-A 25 15 10 1.50 17 13 1.31 4,666 18,559 02:04:41 JAGERMECH JM6-S 59 37 21 1.76 55 30 1.83 15,733 43,275 04:56:43 HEAVY METAL 240 127 111 1.14 230 110 2.09 82,804 199,847 1 day 00:29:46 HIGHLANDER HGN-732 52 26 26 1.00 36 28 1.29 16,969 55,024 05:07:05 HIGHLANDER HGN-733 56 32 24 1.33 64 29 2.21 22,357 63,809 05:34:06 HIGHLANDER HGN-733C 113 70 43 1.63 123 54 2.28 37,844 116,844 11:21:11 HIGHLANDER HGN-733P 71 24 46 0.52 68 44 1.55 22,953 64,520 07:08:28 MISERY 67 37 30 1.23 65 40 1.63 24,239 62,860 06:17:57 BLACKJACK BJ-1 1 0 1 0.00 1 1 1.00 286 351 00:06:06 BLACKJACK BJ-1DC 2 2 0 2.00 1 0 1.00 382 1,880 00:14:39 BLACKJACK BJ-1X 4 0 4 0.00 5 3 1.67 920 3,551 00:26:54 BLACKJACK BJ-3 1 0 1 0.00 0 1 0.00 41 173 00:05:55 FIREBRAND 73 46 27 1.70 75 37 2.03 18,967 65,460 06:23:06 QUICKDRAW QKD-4G 35 14 21 0.67 6 23 0.26 5,580 13,506 03:16:12 QUICKDRAW QKD-4H 43 18 25 0.72 35 22 1.59 12,052 43,127 04:35:45 QUICKDRAW QKD-5K 22 10 12 0.83 10 12 0.83 4,355 17,868 02:29:55 DRAGON SLAYER 39 19 20 0.95 42 24 1.75 12,759 57,019 03:40:16 VICTOR VTR-9K 2 1 1 1.00 3 2 1.50 697 4,280 00:12:52 VICTOR VTR-9B 47 25 21 1.19 53 22 2.41 15,089 58,139 04:33:32 VICTOR VTR-9S 40 24 16 1.50 46 13 3.54 15,486 76,764 04:36:35 GOLDEN BOY 20 12 8 1.50 24 11 2.18 6,804 24,556 01:59:03 KINTARO KTO-20 11 2 9 0.22 6 10 0.60 2,007 5,508 00:54:26 KINTARO KTO-18 55 30 25 1.20 34 36 0.94 13,082 53,084 06:06:09 KINTARO KTO-19 37 16 20 0.80 20 25 0.80 7,635 28,737 03:17:54 PROTECTOR 31 17 14 1.21 33 19 1.74 8,611 35,143 03:12:16 ORION ON1-K 27 18 9 2.00 21 12 1.75 6,694 33,416 02:59:58 ORION ON1-V 24 11 13 0.85 20 15 1.33 6,727 24,021 02:26:44 ORION ON1-VA 18 12 6 2.00 16 9 1.78 4,951 23,609 01:58:22 THE BOAR'S HEAD 14 10 4 2.50 23 5 4.60 6,149 25,057 01:26:09 SHADOW HAWK SHD-2H 19 13 6 2.17 11 9 1.22 3,545 17,201 02:04:25 SHADOW HAWK SHD-2D2 45 27 17 1.59 37 22 1.68 13,772 59,311 05:02:59 SHADOW HAWK SHD-5M 31 15 16 0.94 23 18 1.28 9,133 34,936 02:36:30 THUNDERBOLT TDR-5S 1 0 1 0.00 0 1 0.00 180 324 00:04:54 BATTLEMASTER BLR-1G 8 4 4 1.00 11 5 2.20 3,007 15,514 00:41:24 BATTLEMASTER BLR-1D 7 4 3 1.33 15 4 3.75 3,975 18,678 00:48:30 BATTLEMASTER BLR-1S 7 3 4 0.75 4 3 1.33 2,094 6,649 00:51:46 JESTER 8 3 5 0.60 1 7 0.14 1,397 5,992 00:39:01 OXIDE 4 3 1 3.00 4 1 4.00 1,276 8,371 00:28:45 GRIFFIN GRF-1N(P) 3 0 3 0.00 0 2 0.00 453 859 00:19:34 GRIFFIN GRF-1N 3 0 3 0.00 0 2 0.00 453 859 00:19:34

Hard to believe that some of us might have more egalitarian concerns about gaming balance eh?

you do know, as you love pointing out, there is no way to prove your numbers and they can be fudge completely? since mwo does not display those stats to everyone. Considering your leanings it would appear regardless that you are defending lights and trying to buff them.

[stjobe]

Varent, on 06 January 2014 - 01:31 AM, said:

No one cares jobe. He is defending something for the same class hes attacking it for. I believe the facts line up quite clearly there and your defending him because your views match his. That's pretty transparent.

And to that I say that your anti-light bias is showing.

So stop hating lights, embrace the power of getting killed in one shot! Get out of your slow assault and feel the rush of speed! Glory in the feel of having almost no armour between you and a quick, violent death! Join us as we charge madly against weaponry weighing almost as much as our whole 'mechs!

But yeah, your anti-light tendencies are really showing.

[Thorqemada]

Usualy Assaults and Heavys are the most played Weightclasses and Mediums and Lights the least played Weightclasses.
The Phoenix Pack taints the picture atm as poeple grind XP for their new Mediums.

Edited by Thorqemada, 06 January 2014 - 01:45 AM.

[Varent]

stjobe, on 06 January 2014 - 01:42 AM, said:

And to that I say that your anti-light bias is showing.

So stop hating lights, embrace the power of getting killed in one shot! Get out of your slow assault and feel the rush of speed! Glory in the feel of having almost no armour between you and a quick, violent death! Join us as we charge madly against weaponry weighing almost as much as our whole 'mechs!

But yeah, your anti-light tendencies are really showing.

Actually ive shown that I prefer my mediums and heavy brawlers quite abit, even made a point to post my excursions out with them. Most of them move around 80-90 ish.

[Craig Steele]

Off topic question,

Is piloting a light the MWO equivilant of no undie monday?

[stjobe]

Craig Steele, on 06 January 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

Off topic question,

Is piloting a light the MWO equivilant of no undie monday?

Every day is No Pants Day for a light pilot!



It's one of the biggest benefits of piloting a light!

[Varent]

stjobe, on 06 January 2014 - 01:55 AM, said:

Every day is No Pants Day for a light pilot!



It's one of the biggest benefits of piloting a light!

I don't know if your familiar with the novels but this reminds me of the first novel of the grey death legion saga....when the wife of Greyson is first introduced coming out of her light cockpit...

and for the record, I love my jenners.

[Noesis]

Varent, on 06 January 2014 - 01:42 AM, said:

you do know, as you love pointing out, there is no way to prove your numbers and they can be fudge completely? since mwo does not display those stats to everyone. Considering your leanings it would appear regardless that you are defending lights and trying to buff them.

So if PGI/IGP want to clarify these numbers and place appropriate rulings on your personal attacks accordingly you wouldn't have a problem with that?

As I don't see any forthcoming apologies for your ongoing behaviour of projecting opinions on my character.

[Varent]

Noesis, on 06 January 2014 - 01:58 AM, said:

So if PGI/IGP want to clarify these numbers and place appropriate rulings on your personal attacks accordingly you wouldn't have a problem with that?

As I don't see any forthcoming apologies for your ongoing behaviour of projecting opinions on my character.

considering you have slandered my own non stop as well? sure I will when you do buddy They can also confirm that I spent all day running my centurions =p

[stjobe]

Varent, on 06 January 2014 - 01:56 AM, said:

I don't know if your familiar with the novels but this reminds me of the first novel of the grey death legion saga....when the wife of Greyson is first introduced coming out of her light cockpit...

Well, Lori Kalmar wasn't Grayson Carlyle's wife at the point, but yeah, I'm quite familiar with the novels.

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The Mech Warrior's legs appeared from the Locust's belly hatch, and it became apparent that the pilot was female. Scarcely more than a girl, she was dressed only in slippers and a scrap of black panty briefs. MechWarriors generally fought scantily clad in the hothouse confines of their machines, and she had not had time to get dressed before coming out. Her long blond hair hung in dank wet strands across her shoulders, and her body glistened with sweat After stepping down from the ladder, she stood facing them with arms folded across her *******, alone and very vulnerable.

"Hey, hey," a soldier said with a nasty laugh. "Look-a-here, look-a-here! We caught us a prize, we did! Get those hands up! Behind your head!"
"Looks dangerous," another said. He shouldered his assault rifle and started toward her. "I think we'd better search her!"
"Yeah! C'mere, baby. We gotta check your uniform for concealed weapons."

Grayson set the rocket launcher aside, stepped over to where a sergeant stood watching, and pulled the pistol from the man's hip holster. It was a Stetta auto pistol, with a selector switch that let it fire single shots, bursts, or wildly inaccurate full-auto mayhem from an extended grip magazine holding 100 caseless rounds. He snapped the selector from safe to full auto, pointed the muzzle into the air, and pulled the trigger.The snapping chatter of the deadly little weapon, shocking in the confined space between buildings, slopped the soldiers where they were, spun them around to face him.

"The first one to touch her dies." He waited, the weapon smoking in his hand. Though the challengewas a bit melodramatic, it had the desired effect. Every eye was on him.

William H. Keith, Decision at Thunder Rift, chapter 14

Edited by stjobe, 06 January 2014 - 02:13 AM.

[Noesis]

Varent, on 06 January 2014 - 02:02 AM, said:

considering you have slandered my own non stop as well? sure I will when you do buddy They can also confirm that I spent all day running my centurions =p

I haven't slandered you, I have demonstrated where you make fallacies and correct your understanding where you do so that you then simply wet your pants over consistently and seem to have taken Umbridge to as a result. Hence your "locking horns" metaphor. Most of the time offering outlandish opinions or character deformation to myself and others. So many times liking it seems to say others have no skill or capabilities as a consistent message that your in some way superior to them.

At least my insults are based off of actual facts and usually as a result of a confirmed statement by yourself as opposed to being completely made up.

[Varent]

stjobe, on 06 January 2014 - 02:12 AM, said:

Well, Lori Kalmar wasn't Grayson Carlyle's wife at the point, but yeah, I'm quite familiar with the novels.

William H. Keith, Decision at Thunder Rift, chapter 14

I wish we didn't argue so Jobe <3

Noesis, on 06 January 2014 - 02:12 AM, said:

I haven't slandered you, I have demonstrated where you make fallacies and correct your understanding where you do so that you then simply wet your pants over consistently and seem to have taken Umbridge to as a result. Hence your "locking horns" metaphor. Most of the time offering outlandish opinions or character deformation to myself and others. So many times liking it seems to say others have no skill or capabilities as a consistent message that your in some way superior to them.

At least my insults are based off of actual facts and usually as a result of a confirmed statement by yourself as opposed to being completely made up.

actually you have slandered me quite abit over the course of several of the threads here. you might want to look back over them. Tis fine its quite obvious we cant stand one another but you shouldn't call the kettle black.

[stjobe]

Varent, on 06 January 2014 - 02:13 AM, said:

I wish we didn't argue so Jobe <3

Perhaps if you stopped being such a bridge-dwelling Richard we wouldn't have to

[Noesis]

Varent, on 06 January 2014 - 02:13 AM, said:

actually you have slandered me quite abit over the course of several of the threads here. you might want to look back over them. Tis fine its quite obvious we cant stand one another but you shouldn't call the kettle black.

I didn't really have much of a problem with things, I simply tolerated your annoyances as they occurred or tried to offer dialogue that you were being belligerent in opposition to.

But I can see there is in fact some more serious motivations going on now, especially with the persistant behaviour of trying to project fallacies as a process of attempted character deformation.

The fact that you measure these things in terms of selfish gain also raises further motivational questions about things. Especially as your personality likes to project so much.

The cracks are showing Varent.

Edited by Noesis, 06 January 2014 - 02:27 AM.

[Varent]

stjobe, on 06 January 2014 - 02:24 AM, said:

Perhaps if you stopped being such a bridge-dwelling Richard we wouldn't have to

I could say the same. Frankly we just are on two sides of a fence *shrugs* If nothing else I respect ya though Jobe <3

Noesis, on 06 January 2014 - 02:26 AM, said:

I didn't really have much of a problem with things, I simply tolerated your annoyances as they occurred or tried to offer dialogue that you were being belligerent in opposition to.

But I can see there is in fact some more serious motivations going on now, especially with the persistant behaviour of trying to project fallacies as a process of attempted character deformation.

The fact that you measure these things in terms of selfish gain also raises further motivational questions about things. Especially as your personality likes to project so much.

The cracks are showing Varent.

Cracks? Im sitting on my couch with a beer in my hand watching family guy posting in between comercials. Im having a ball. But you can say whatever helps you sleep better at night Noesis.

Edited by Varent, 06 January 2014 - 02:29 AM.

[Noesis]

Varent, on 06 January 2014 - 02:28 AM, said:

Cracks? Im sitting on my couch with a beer in my hand watching family guy posting in between comercials. Im having a ball. But you can say whatever helps you sleep better at night Noesis.

Hot chocolate then. And someone who at least demonstrates respect to their fellow players. But you kick back and enjoy your beer after insulting someone, it is after all the best thing to demonstrate at this time?