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[Victor Morson]

The funny part is designing 'mechs for MW4 was more work than MW:O despite their graphics. Each and every part of the 'mech was a separate file!

[Aim64C]

Airborne Thunder, on 29 December 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

Man I love this game. I still play it. Best part is they had multiplayer with NO GHOST HEAT and NO CLAN WEAPON NERFS and somehow the game was still AWESOME. I feel sorry for anyone who missed out on the Mektek version. All the Clan Mechs for FREE. Now PGI wants $240.00 for them.

MechWarrior 4 departed considerably from "Tabletop" values and mech-lab concepts. Not that it was a bad thing - but Mech4 still left a lot to be desired - even after MekTek had played with the balance and added content out the wazoo.

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EDIT: Oh yeah, you didn't have to CHARGE your gauss either! Plus you could play infantry and Elementals!

They really pushed well beyond the limits of the game engine. To say that you could play as infantry and power armor is kind of a stretch of the imagination. Granted - at least they tried.

I did love Mech4, though. Despite "Big M's" perspective that mech combat games were over... there was a lot of ***** and spirit put into the game and the various campaigns behind it. Duncan Fischer, anyone?

There was also a personality to the soundtrack. It wasn't over-done, it wasn't under-done. It might have departed a bit from previous MechWarrior themes (which were kind of almost like "ghost-trance-metal") but they had a nice beat to stomp around to.



I always loved the merger of the sound-tracks with the comms traffic. Cities are up to their water-towers in hostile mechs, missile contrails blot out the sun, **** is exploding every which way - and 'you' are calm, collected, and telling everyone just how you're about to:

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**** those snakes up.

This was your "Intercept? I got this" theme:



I've posted on it before - but I think these guys are worthy successors of a Battletech themed soundtrack ... or this guy...? :





Their work, if anything, might have a tempo that is a bit on the fast side as a MechWarrior soundtrack - but it's kind of hard to find much work truly sticking to an industrial-metal theme.

[KursedVixen]

And the Fake link is suppose to say something?

[Blurry]

Imperius, on 28 December 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

I can save all footage of team killing by just hitting F19 via my Nvidia Shadow Play. Then I can gladly make a youtube account just to get all the team killers banned.

Honestly as soon as we are rid of those people then the game will start to get better. You act like team killing is new. I'm quite good at shooting anything team or enemy. So I welcome it! I'm going to get some info about asking support if I'm allowed to fire back and kill them and not take any marks against my account.

As for you Victor you seem to now have a personal vendetta against me or something because I still show my support despite their (PGI's) shortcomings. You know of all people from the begging that I played Mechassault 1&2 even said it would be a plus seeing the direction of the game. That was back in closed beta. If you're going to continue to assault me on the forums you might as well remove me from your friend list and Team Speak too if you haven't already.

I also said back in the begging that this game would not fair well to follow some stupid cannon 1:1 timeline. So the sooner they get the mechs out of the way the sooner the game can get fixed.

This whole game is practically waiting for clan mechs. Till those are in the game and balanced you wont really see much content added. If this game was made in a studio and was going to be released as a $60 game clans would have had to be in it before it could be finished and released.

UI 2.0 is the foundation of all the stats and {Scrap} for Community Warfare. They did give everyone UI 2.0 back in Nov on the Test Server. Anyone that believed it was going to just come strait out as a patch must be on drugs.

you seem to be under the impression that there will be other people left?
Only you and a few other neurotic people will continue to support this game.
It is vary obvious that this was a pump and dump scheme by Jarhead. The MO is the exact same.
And if there are a few left then banning them will mean no one left to play with.

Enjoy your gold member/mech and playing with it cause if you ban people it will mean u are playing with yourself and you dont want that do you?

No UI 2.0 makes it easier for them to shovel things for you to buy. And yes I actually did expect it to come out when they said it would. But then did a little reading and came to a conclusion.

But hey just keep given them money for nothing they love it.

I think the original is a sub contract for the minimal viable product and worked with cryengine guys.
But after ties were stopped and no further $$ was put into the code they were left with fixing it themselves.
It shows like the mess with the picture in picture ect. A sub or cry could have done it but they wouldnt spend the $$ on it since it doest go to the bottom line. or even ghost heat ect - they dont go back and fix that just disable and add - which I think is a bad way to do things.

Edited by Blurry, 30 December 2013 - 11:57 AM.

[Blurry]

KursedVixen, on 30 December 2013 - 12:11 AM, said:

And the Fake link is suppose to say something?

The fake link isnt fake. They deleted the thread.
It showed the startup money came from industry canada and QC gov to start up and get things going and that the founders was in fact sent back to IGP to cover losses.

Just not the story they were telling.

[Ransack]

Blurry, on 30 December 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:

The fake link isnt fake. They deleted the thread.
It showed the startup money came from industry canada and QC gov to start up and get things going and that the founders was in fact sent back to IGP to cover losses.

Just not the story they were telling.

Not deleted. they pushed it to K-Town

[Airborne Thunder]

Blurry, on 30 December 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:

The fake link isnt fake. They deleted the thread.
It showed the startup money came from industry canada and QC gov to start up and get things going and that the founders was in fact sent back to IGP to cover losses.

Just not the story they were telling.

If you are saying that PGI is backed by the Canadian Government I don't see how that could be a bad thing. At least they have universal health care and aren’t 17 Trillion dollars in the hole like the U.S. Maybe this will keep MWO alive through even the most incompetent decisions by PGI.

[Pyrrho]

Imperius, on 29 December 2013 - 10:42 AM, said:

The world is all about wasting money. That's pretty much life. I'm not concerned in a bad investment. I'm concerned I'll have no more decent mech games. If this game fails people don't ever expect another one.

Ha Ha Ha.

So, life is not important, only 'mech games are important. Life can go on, but what will be the point with no 'mech games? This is deeply mechistentialist.

Edited by Pyrrho, 30 December 2013 - 01:21 PM.

[Devari]

On the topic of mechexistentialism, if a developer misses a deadline, but they weren't actually making the game to begin with, does the game really exist?

Moreover, if enough members of a gaming community leave a game, is it still possible to have community warfare?

And if you buy a gold mech, but there are no other players to see it, is it still gold?

I will be pondering these philosophical questions over the next year as my favourite mech franchise continues to slowly sink into a pit of greed and incompetence.

[MuffinTop]

I'm not falling for this ********. You guys got me at Founders, and you won't do it to me again.

[Victor Morson]

Airborne Thunder, on 30 December 2013 - 12:30 PM, said:

If you are saying that PGI is backed by the Canadian Government I don't see how that could be a bad thing.

I'm not following why people are upset about that part, but the previous-company titles are hilarious.

This is all I can picture with this topic, though:

Edited by Victor Morson, 30 December 2013 - 06:09 PM.

[Aim64C]

Airborne Thunder, on 30 December 2013 - 12:30 PM, said:

If you are saying that PGI is backed by the Canadian Government I don't see how that could be a bad thing.

You don't have much experience with governments, do you?

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At least they have universal health care and aren’t 17 Trillion dollars in the hole like the U.S. Maybe this will keep MWO alive through even the most incompetent decisions by PGI.

Actually, when the U.S. goes - it will take down most of the rest of the world. U.S. treasury bonds are used as exchange mediums for stock and large international transfers. When the U.S. market falls it's going to severely over-value other treasury bonds issued by other countries - creating monetary bubbles that will then sequentially collapse tier after tier.

If it gets bad enough that trucks cannot deliver food to the stores and coal/uranium/etc to the power plants - it's game over, and it will be 200-300 years before we can even begin to reclaim our technological and industrial feats.

Regardless - it's because America is following Canada's example that we're in the mess we're in. Well, actually, we're following the {Godwin's Law} party with nationalized socialism with a fascist industrial complex. We'll even be instating re-education camps before too much longer. Can't have people believing in the fallacies of free market economies - and if it weren't for government, women would surely be oppressed along with any non-white (because the Serbs and Croats are totally the same race....) group. People believed in gods before government, and all kinds of other crazy stuff.

Yeah - I'm being a bit eccentric - they'll just arrest me for teaching my kid something outside of the core curriculum or insist that he could become a free tradesman outside of a union or some employer network. I honestly look forward to it. My father was a brilliant man - and he gets more brilliant every time they write a new law. I thought he was a bit extreme growing up as a kid ... but the last two years have proven him quite correct.

But I digress, horribly.

The issue with PGI taking government funding is... well is this:

http://mwomercs.com/...reconciliation/

That's probably going to end up getting moved - but we'll see what happens.

[Victor Morson]

Aim64C, on 30 December 2013 - 11:05 PM, said:

Regardless - it's because America is following Canada's example that we're in the mess we're in. Well, actually, we're following the {Godwin's Law} party with nationalized socialism with a fascist industrial complex. We'll even be instating re-education camps before too much longer. Can't have people believing in the fallacies of free market economies - and if it weren't for government, women would surely be oppressed along with any non-white (because the Serbs and Croats are totally the same race....) group. People believed in gods before government, and all kinds of other crazy stuff.

This, this is why I avoid politics in the forums..

You really went full Godwin with it? You never go full Godwin.

Edited by Victor Morson, 31 December 2013 - 12:52 PM.

[Victor Morson]

Aim64C, on 30 December 2013 - 11:05 PM, said:

Yeah - I'm being a bit eccentric - they'll just arrest me for teaching my kid something outside of the core curriculum or insist that he could become a free tradesman outside of a union or some employer network. I honestly look forward to it. My father was a brilliant man - and he gets more brilliant every time they write a new law. I thought he was a bit extreme growing up as a kid ... but the last two years have proven him quite correct.

[Airborne Thunder]

Aim64C, on 30 December 2013 - 11:05 PM, said:

You don't have much experience with governments, do you?



Actually, when the U.S. goes - it will take down most of the rest of the world. U.S. treasury bonds are used as exchange mediums for stock and large international transfers. When the U.S. market falls it's going to severely over-value other treasury bonds issued by other countries - creating monetary bubbles that will then sequentially collapse tier after tier.

If it gets bad enough that trucks cannot deliver food to the stores and coal/uranium/etc to the power plants - it's game over, and it will be 200-300 years before we can even begin to reclaim our technological and industrial feats.

Regardless - it's because America is following Canada's example that we're in the mess we're in. Well, actually, we're following the {Godwin's Law} party with nationalized socialism with a fascist industrial complex. We'll even be instating re-education camps before too much longer. Can't have people believing in the fallacies of free market economies - and if it weren't for government, women would surely be oppressed along with any non-white (because the Serbs and Croats are totally the same race....) group. People believed in gods before government, and all kinds of other crazy stuff.

Yeah - I'm being a bit eccentric - they'll just arrest me for teaching my kid something outside of the core curriculum or insist that he could become a free tradesman outside of a union or some employer network. I honestly look forward to it. My father was a brilliant man - and he gets more brilliant every time they write a new law. I thought he was a bit extreme growing up as a kid ... but the last two years have proven him quite correct.

But I digress, horribly.

The issue with PGI taking government funding is... well is this:

http://mwomercs.com/...reconciliation/

That's probably going to end up getting moved - but we'll see what happens.

Didn't mean for this to go all political. I just wanted to say that PGI being backed by the government has to be a good thing. They have skin in the game so they probably won't let PGI fail. Here Aim64C, this is just for you:



Ok, Niko I'm done.

[Imperius]

I will add this here even though I already said it on twitter. I suggest that if we want to buy more than one gold mech we should be able to gift the extra Masakari Pack to a friend.

[Victor Morson]

Imperius, on 31 December 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

I will add this here even though I already said it on twitter. I suggest that if we want to buy more than one gold mech we should be able to gift the extra Masakari Pack to a friend.

I wish there was a gifting system in general! I'd probably run MC tournaments in our unit if I could transfer it.

[Aim64C]

Victor Morson, on 31 December 2013 - 05:57 PM, said:

I wish there was a gifting system in general! I'd probably run MC tournaments in our unit if I could transfer it.

But that's Pay to... wait a minute...

Gifting would be a good idea.

Of course, so would choosing to make the guy I just enjoyed Lancing with a friend without having to write down whatever funky 1337 hybrid name he chose to find him, later (or take a screen shot). Basic community support.

[Wrynn_Summerscale]

i laugh so ******* hard at ALL the flaming comments "OMGZ 240$ FOR ONE MECH *WHINE*WHINEWHINE* but if you take an actual look and READ what they all say, they are PACKS, 24 mech variants for $240 is reasonable when with MC it does take about $10 per mech, and lets not even notice the extras they are throwing in for it. the gold pack is a tad high but its the full masakari pack plus one gold mech so just quit complaining about it. i understand the hate because of no CW or UI2 but cmon its pretty far from cash grab when its just packing stuff together at the same price it would be otherwise. if you dont want to spend it fine its not like it matters because you can buy them with Cbills anyways but ******** just quit CRYING.

[Naskoni]

Imperius, on 31 December 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

I will add this here even though I already said it on twitter. I suggest that if we want to buy more than one gold mech we should be able to gift the extra Masakari Pack to a friend.

Einstein was right about human stupidity after all...