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[Diewell]

Clan packs/golden mechs is Just another money grab and it's going to produce even more issues! As the old lady said where's the beef, meaning community warfare.. 2 yrs now and still no cw come on PGI!! Get your **** together and actually produce what your planned and stop with the ******** delays.

Yes, I'm ranting because I did believe in this game as a canadian backing a canadian company and their original intent before they decided to screw over their player base and keep adding issues and not following through on their commitments, thanks in part by IGP and their greedy hands..

[Ryvucz]

Mycrus, on 13 December 2013 - 10:20 PM, said:

well it's nice to see that PGI gave you a "White Knight" title...

I thought it was nice for them to allow me to be a target to see how many times I'd get flamed, yes.

[Juvat]

Ryvucz, on 13 December 2013 - 10:15 PM, said:

I went with this -

So I take it this was a gift to you for being such a wonderful "White Knight?"

[Gallowglas]

I'm a grown-up. I make a decent salary. I didn't flinch at the $120 Founders price tag. This, for me, crosses the line into "are you freaking kidding me" territory. Twice the cost of the Founders package just to get the Timber Wolf? Half the cost of a mortgage payment for the big package? I guess it's a good thing I have no desire to go Clan because the prices on this are off-the-charts insane. The irony is I was just grousing about how expensive some of the ships in Star Citizen were compared to the mechs here.

I don't mean to seem negative, but you'd definitely earn a lot more goodwill if you were to release UI2.0 and some early CW implementations before doing this. In fact, if you don't keep this sale open until after those begin to roll out, I suspect you're shooting yourselves in the foot.

To be clear, I mean this in the most sincerely constructive, cordial way possible. I'm not trying to rabble rouse.

Edited by Gallowglas, 13 December 2013 - 10:25 PM.

[Dymlos2003]

BadOptics, on 13 December 2013 - 10:20 PM, said:

Dogfight module set for early 2014, which will bring them up to MWO in terms of gameplay content.

Oh it was delayed? Did people whine about it? How about the ship costs are people whining about that too? A game that you've seen nothing off yet.

People will whine at that game just as they did with this one.

[Ryvucz]

Juvat, on 13 December 2013 - 10:22 PM, said:

So I take it this was a gift to you for being such a wonderful "White Knight?"

If that makes you feel better, yeah, it was free.

[Fenris Krinkovich]

Prosperity Park, on 13 December 2013 - 10:02 PM, said:

Do you really want to wait an additional 6 months after they get UI 2.0 and CW bug free before releasing ANY Clan content?

Yes, absolutely. I want the game that's been promised since day one. I want it to be reasonably bug-free (no game is ever 100%.) I want to have a solid grip on Community Warfare, and the ebb and flow of territory sovereignty, BEFORE the major game-changing event takes place. Clan Invasion is supposed to CHANGE things, not be the baseline. There are EIGHTY mechs already. Variety is not a problem in that regard. The game is unfinished and parts of it are kinda broken. Clan tech is going to bring us NEW weapons when we don't even have some of the old ones working right? It's going to bring us NEW mech models when large numbers of the old ones are irrelevant because they're just bad? They haven't balanced 80 mechs but approximately 120 mechs is supposed to just work? Yeah, 6 months after CW and UI 2.0 are done isn't too bad. THE PROBLEM IS, that six months from THEN should have been four months from NOW.

[Wu Jen]

Ryvucz, on 13 December 2013 - 10:15 PM, said:

I went with this -

You gotta catch 'em all!

[TamCoan]

Hmmm... 80 I could justify. The prices on these, not so much. Count me out. You could have had a paying customer but these prices are not something I feel is worth it.

[DeeBeeP]

ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) BUT AT WHAT COST?

Edited by DeeBeeP, 13 December 2013 - 10:26 PM.

[Sug]

I'm enjoying this time with all you guys.

[Haakon Valravn]

Varent, on 13 December 2013 - 10:06 PM, said:

its not to late to redact that price? >.>

Could be like... "Oops! Our bad, meant to be $50" and actually not make it look like as bad of a money grab....

I could see paying $50 for a "gold" 'Mech. Still expensive. But at least it doesn't cost more than an 870. Or roughly the same as a Glock 17.

dymlos2003, on 13 December 2013 - 10:08 PM, said:

I know so inflated 10 dollars a mech is terrible... wait

$10 a 'Mech isn't bad for the 'Mechs you want. But it's not a very good deal for the 'Mechs you don't want. If you just want to rock the Warhawk, for instance, that isn't $10 a 'Mech (even if we go with your flawed assumption that a variant is an entirely new 'Mech. It isn't). It's $80 a 'Mech. Plus a bunch of 'Mechs you don't want and have no use for.

[MechPorn]

Edited by TB Xiomburg, 13 December 2013 - 10:25 PM.

[Deathlike]

Sug, on 13 December 2013 - 10:21 PM, said:

I dont' know why but I keep looking at those and laughing hysterically. It's just such a BAD concept.

It's so bad I want to buy a gold madcat load it up with TAG and NARCs and just run headfirst into the other team like a jackass just so people can point and laugh at it.

Those gold mechs will be hunted down with prejudice.

[Dihm]

Ryvucz, on 13 December 2013 - 10:15 PM, said:

I went with this -

Pics or it didn't happen

[Sug]

Deathlike, on 13 December 2013 - 10:24 PM, said:

Those gold mechs will be hunted down with prejudice.

I know!

[TamCoan]

Wu Jen, on 13 December 2013 - 10:24 PM, said:

You gotta catch 'em all!

Hey Wu, are you the same Wu Jen that play(ed) "Transformers Legends"?

[Sug]

Dihm, on 13 December 2013 - 10:25 PM, said:

Pics or it didn't happen

But....

[Koniving]

Okay. This was in another thread, but...

Koniving, on 13 December 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:

Given PGI's track records, you'll have about 5 months to decide whether or not to get the package.

The mechs will be completely available, for regular cbills, months after the fact.

The big questions is how will clan and inner sphere mechs interact? Can I bring the clan mech in to fight for the Liao, for example? How will all of that work? It's awfully early to be announcing these. I'm not touching this until the explanations come out to the open.

Also I noticed the art. But it's hard to make it large enough to judge.

[Edit]
Okay so I found a way to get a slightly better look at the mechs.
Here's my rough size opinion based on their weight and the art, remembering that these need to fit a human pilot of the Crysis Nano-suit size. Note these are merely estimations based on what I see. Nothing more.

Spoiler

The Kitfox (30 tons) is gonna be rather large compared to a Spider. While it may not be as tall, it will definitely be much wider.

The Adder (35 tons) is gonna be akin to a Raven in size. Potentially shorter than the Raven, but definitely as wide as a Jenner if not somewhat wider. Funny enough its equipment is akin to my Raven 2x; twin ER PPCs.

The Nova (50 tons) is likely to be around the height of a Hunchback. ~Possibly~ shorter, but at the cost of being nearly as wide as a Centurion, and long from the side. I suspect we may have 'stalker syndrome' from it, meaning that its side torsos may isolate its center torso quite nicely making it rather long-lasting provided you don't use an XL engine.

The Ryoken (55 tons) is likely to be between Kintaro (the smallest 55 tonner we have) and Shadow Hawk (the largest 55 tonner we have currently) size. I'm leaning a bit towards Kintaro size based on the shape of the body, size of the cockpit, and especially the 'forward extending torso' trait.

The Summoner (70 tons) will be taller than the Cataphract but I imagine it will be narrower, too.

The Timber Wolf (75 tons) will probably be shorter than the Orion, but its Catapult-like torso length will make up for the difference. I actually imagine there won't be much difference in Timberwolf size and Catapult size, aside from the arms.

The Masakari (90 tons) will guaranteed be shorter than the Highlander. I imagine it will be about Stalker-sized, with its arms making up the difference in weight.

The Dire Wolf (100 tons) will be significantly shorter than the Atlas, but possibly taller than a Stalker. Truth be told I'm not quite sure because that cockpit looks rather large.

Now, here's my actual feedback on the sale itself.

PGI, given the way this is set up, I believe that the first four and the second four should be split into two separate groups.

Group one, Kitfox, Nova, Summoner, Dire Wolf. 120 for package.
Group two, Adder, Ryoken, Timber Wolf, Masakari. 120 for package.
Gets the same price, 240, for both. But in its current state, you have to pay 150 to get the group I titled group one, + a 35 ton mech. (Seriously?)

This lets players choose between two separate tiers to climb up, for example if I bought 60 dollars in to each of the two groups, I could have Kitfox and Nova + Adder and Ryoken. Or what if I wanted the Adder and Summoner? I could pay 90 into group one, and only 30 into group two.

Please split it into two tiers to climb.

Edited by Koniving, 13 December 2013 - 10:30 PM.

[Ngamok]

Futilizer, on 13 December 2013 - 06:21 PM, said:

How bout give some of these to the people that supported the game before it came out. The founders mechs are seriously lame.

I like my Hunchback