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[Gargoth]

MisterPlanetarian, on 14 December 2013 - 03:46 AM, said:

The Packages themselves are actually fine it's just the gold ones that **** people off .

Really? 240$ is not a steep price for an "free 2 play" early access DLC)
Yes, we have a choice not to get one, and still people rant about it.
Pricing is ridiculous.

But it is not just that. read some replies to this thread and you will notice people are angry because devs are milking the community on promises they have not kept, and instead they produce long waited clan mechs out from a magical hat with an unbelievable price tag.
Oh, and those clans should have been ingame last summer.
as well as community warfare, multiple game modes etc etc.
The list of undelivered promises is long.
The list of actual fixes to game and new features... that is short.

Edited by Gargoth, 14 December 2013 - 05:29 AM.

[Reaper0084]

The Government, on 14 December 2013 - 05:15 AM, said:

You all are disgusting. Not one more cent. Screw you all and your cash grabbing ******** nonsense.

I regret my decision to become a founder, you all make me ******** sick. Your userbase isn't some big cash jar you just dip your hands into whenever you like. You pigs give greed a bad name.

On the off chance I do play in the coming months, I am going to shoot to kill gold mechs on site, regardless of team.

well said

[Khan Hallis]

While I would really like to have my Clan 'mechs, I won't be buying them unless things change and there is more content developed. Examples :a weight balancing system that actually works (and balances ECM on both sides not counting "ECM counters" (like BAP or TAG) just straight up team A ECM = team B ECM numbers) at both the lance and company levels, with all of the bugs worked out; at least 10 large fully developed (very close to completely full mini-map in the loading screen) maps, with all of the bugs worked out; at least 4 very different and challenging game modes, with all of the bugs worked out; Community warfare completely and fully developed, with all of the bugs worked out; and UI 2.0 completely functional, again with all of the bugs worked out. And all of that BEFORE the clans are released. I'm very hard pressed to say I'm going to spend any additional money on anything in this game until there is more content developed and the "lets give them more mechs" mentality is shelved or better discarded. Like a few others I've read so far, I'm almost to the point that I'd rather see you fail PGI and let the rights for the universe go to another design team that delivers what they say when they announce it. Almost I'm an ardent MWO (and Battletech in general) fan, but this is simply awful and I really don't think I can justify further cash spent on the game without some serious changes made and all promises delivered upon BEFORE the clans are released. I think you need to "redact" your announcement and strategies that got you there. You bit off more than you could chew and made promises you've failed to keep thus far, so I think it is time to pay the piper (all of us that are playing and putting money into the game) and deliver even if it costs you money in the first place.

Edited by Khan Hallis, 14 December 2013 - 05:43 AM.

[Nightsclaw]

Well it will be interesting to see if this game will still be around in a year or two. (I hope it is and very much improved) Will another game be made to replace it? Please do or say something to help calm your fans. Something needs to be done or people will just leave.

A game is nothing with out its players,

We do not want another massive wait before the next Battletech game so... People are all ready thinking about crowd funding another one (or a buyout of this one)

Just look at what people are saying, if you are making your fans say this sort of thing something is wrong, very wrong.

Spoiler

Victor Morson, on 14 December 2013 - 04:10 AM, said:

I really almost want to do this. If anyone's actually interested PM me. Spending money to free this game from the clutches of it's current devs would be far, far better spent than these Clan packages. In fact a stretch goal should be gold 'mechs for all backers, just for irony.

PhobiaOne, on 14 December 2013 - 04:26 AM, said:

I know CryEngine. Any other Indie DEVs out there wanna get a KickStarter going to buy the IP rights for MechWarrior? I bet we could put out a game 3x better than what we have now with MWO in less than a year. How you ask? Well it is simple...we would work on the CORE game rather than the fluff to make money. Why would we do this you ask? Because we LOVE the BT Universe, and want to play a kickass Mech game.

Antonius Prime, on 14 December 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

I am 100% on the "get somebody else do produce this" bandwagon. PGI has failed so many times over. It is not in their nature to do this correctly. Asking them to operate with correct business principles seems to be like asking a dog to "meow". We, the people, could surely do it better because we do truly love the BT universe. It might fall short in some aspect somewhere, but it would be a game people actually want to play. Fresh faces might actually renew some of the loyal fans out there who are fed up with PGI.

Barnowl, on 14 December 2013 - 04:41 AM, said:

First reaction to seeing the link for clan invasion > AWWWWW YEAAAAAAH Reaction to seeing the prices and collections only > OH HEEEEELLLL NO I'm not interested in obtaining all the clan mechs and certainly not for such a ******** amount of cash. I only wanted one mech or 2, but since collections = more cash (more like more ripoff) you guys can eat a {Richard Cameron} for all I care. Maybe I'll come back to see whats what in the summer. And that would probably only be if star citizen disappoints.

Victor Morson, on 14 December 2013 - 04:45 AM, said:

Why they continue to have my full support. Transparency and an interest in what all parts of the community want.

Walter Raleigh, on 14 December 2013 - 04:56 AM, said:

Ahhh PGI you keep us for idiots? If 5,000 people Donation $ 200 Kickstarter, can create a new project of MechWarrior do project WITHOUT Donation. Add ClanPack without price WTF?

Victor Morson, on 14 December 2013 - 04:57 AM, said:

I'm still serious, I want to know what PGI's price is. I think there's enough of us that care about the franchise enough to pay it. It's obvious they want to offload the property and it's obvious we want it back, so let's just make it happen!

[Kotzi]

DrHat, on 14 December 2013 - 05:16 AM, said:

I think people should take a deep breath (not saying you should calm down)..I think you're attributing waaay too much malice and cartoon-villainy to this situation. I mean protesting the prices is fine, I'd be liable to be right there with you, but come on. This is the real world, not Whacky Racers with Dikk Dastardly (had to spell it that way) at the helm, twirling his mustache between two fingers, while giggling maniacally.

They started it. Who is asking 500 bucks for a golden Mech? Seriously is this history repeating? If i had seriously put some money in this game i would be very upsetx100.

[r4plez]

I must be dreaming...

http://mwomercs.com/clans


Thats ******* money grab. PGI you are worst that EA.


Clan invasion - another reason to milk players. 240$ for full package, and 500$!! for gold mech this is outrageous at best. GG PGI i wish you to choke with those grabbed money you will get.

No more from me - first get game done than ask for money - stupid lazy developers you think you gonna make another X number of premium mechs to please us and fill your pocket? Gues what - you will simply disappoint rest of faithful players and than there will be no one left to support you. But maybe thats a plan - milk us till you can and than cancel product claiming that market is not ready for battletech game....

I wont support this game with more money because i know now PGI is killing it. MWO wont survive anoyher 2 yrs so why bother.

[TELEFORCE]

I'm really liking the redesigns! Except for that Nova... I mean, come on! Didn't any of you guys think that having a small degree of torso twist would've been a neat quirk for such a cool machine! I was able to put up with MekTek's Nova design, but this looks way too different for my liking...

Please, I'd like to see a Nova like this one.

[Falsemind]

Honestly, without any information on it, balance concerns me more than prices.

Clan mechs are ton for ton better, faster, tougher and meaner than inner sphere.

I would just like to see PGI at least nod to the idea that yes, clan mechs will be stronger, but yes, they will be balanced. Especially if, like project phoenix, clan mechs are 'pay only' for half a year or, worse, permanently pay only.

Honestly, I'm kind of shocked and more than a little concerned.

[Blurry]

Dadrick, on 14 December 2013 - 05:14 AM, said:

No community warfare, no UI 2.0, no private matchmaking, and no info on Clans at all. No thank you.

come on it is soon
give money please.

ok ok,
January for Ui 2.0
Maybe Feb

Give Give!
Need Moar

Ok OK
Skirmish promise will be buggy and not work properly and New map Dec 24. Merry christmas
We will leave the office and load it in not responsible for anything that happens until we return from holiday.
bugs and issues not us ok.....

Give money plx.
Now Now More More.

[Reno Blade]

If you had the 4 mechs for 120$ and each of the other 4 as "addon packs" for 30$ each, you could have a lot more success.
500$ for Goldmech? With the FULL Pack + Goldmech that would still be 260$ for this one extra gold mech, but ONE Mech only?
NO WAY!
This has to be a typo. If you buy a single mech for 50$, that would already be more expensive than an assault Hero mech. but 10X the money? You can't be serious.

Marketing is all about the feeling of the customer. Make them feel like they get more than they really do.

Hope you can see what I mean with this:


Here you choose the Daishi Pack + Added Ryoken and Madcat (for +30$ each) to get 6 mech packs for 180$.

Choosing Blackhawk would unlock light+medium addon,
Choosing Thor would unlock light+medium+heavy addon,
and choosing the Daishi pack would unlock all 4 addons.
That way you still need to take the Thor to get the MadCat. This would prevent people from getting an Uller + MadCat only

[Sadist Cain]

Strajen Marez, on 13 December 2013 - 08:30 PM, said:

Blame Star Citizen and their limited 15k$ ship packages that sold out. Worked for those chumps.

lol why all the star citizen anger? it has a developer who seems truly in it for the game of dreams, the ships are lavishly and intricately detailed inside and out, you can do FAR more with them than pathetic ~8min skirmishes in a matchbox. plus in star citizen the idea is more to own a single ship and get really good at doing whatever it is you choose to do, bigger ships come with more features yesh but much more responsibility in the game world.

Happily bought a Constellation, can't bring myself to put a dollar more towards this game.

[Waking One]

i still like the game, but keep dreaming if you think i'll pay that much, especially after spending all the money i already did

will just wait

[Heffay]

Kotzi, on 14 December 2013 - 05:33 AM, said:

They started it.

Well, you can't argue with logic like that (past the third grade)!

[Steve Pryde]

Sorry but those prices are ridiculous. I'm are hardcore Battletech and Clan fanboy but this is too much. We had no really content over a year , UI 2.0 isn't done yet and where is CW? I'm thinking off to quit MWO cause this ****, sorry.

Edited by Steve Pryde, 14 December 2013 - 05:40 AM.

[Heffay]

****** Cain, on 14 December 2013 - 05:36 AM, said:

lol why all the star citizen anger? it has a developer who seems truly in it for the game of dreams, the ships are lavishly and intricately detailed inside and out, you can do FAR more with them than pathetic ~8min skirmishes in a matchbox. plus in star citizen the idea is more to own a single ship and get really good at doing whatever it is you choose to do, bigger ships come with more features yesh but much more responsibility in the game world.

Happily bought a Constellation, can't bring myself to put a dollar more towards this game.

Keep in mind that $5000 Star Citizen ship can be blown out of the sky and you lose it *forever*.

[Deathlike]

PGI, you've successfully done something that very few companies have done.... created Community Warfare between you and the players/customers.

Would you like to try for the hat trick, since you doubled down after the Phoenix Pack?

Noone expected this firestorm... you did it on your own, with little effort... just as much effort into putting together CW.

You reap what you sow as they say.

[Thunderbird Anthares]

are you out of your mind PGI? this is the kind of money people throw at STAR CITIZEN, not you guys!

you guys just DONT have the quality assurance power, you dont come CLOSE to the quality assurance power of that game, or literally almost any other AAA title, yet you demand money on the order people could buy SEVERAL AAA titles and just ditch your game
wake the hell up already and quit acting like EA, stop screwing over your customers, and more importantly, the FANBASE that keeps your business alive

[The Government]

GodOfFunk, on 13 December 2013 - 05:13 PM, said:

So will CW be released before the Clans or is this just a cash grab before IGP/PGI stop development?

It sure looks that way. I'll bet $250 that in less than a year the servers will be shut down, and they'll be laughing as they walk away with your money, and you can't do jack squat about it. NO REFUNDS ON DIGITAL GOODS.

Everyone who has bought this thing? They are laughing at you, right now, they think you are a fool. Prove them wrong.

[Sentinel373]

Heffay, on 14 December 2013 - 05:38 AM, said:

Keep in mind that $5000 Star Citizen ship can be blown out of the sky and you lose it *forever*.

that depends on when you got that ship. if you bought that ship before early november then it has lifetime insurance. so you get a new one for free.

[DerMaulwurf]

Quote

Currently on the hot-seat is a discussion as to how Clan BattleMechs will be customized.

Asking a LOT of money for a product whose design isn't even finalized. Really classy PGI.