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[Rufus Ingram]

All,

Someone will be more precise (or may have already done this) but the C-Bill cost for the Clan packages based on prime variant prices from TT listed on Sarna.net.

Masakari Package: 420,231,504.

Mad Cat Package: 340,955,535

Ryoken Package: 268,256,163

Puma Package: 223,942,827

Daishi Package: 202,877,763

Summoner Package: 114,827,763

Black Hawk Package: 50,865,261

Kit Fox Package: 16,106,511

[vectorpirate]

Ooo, math. I wonder how many hours of grinding that is for each one. Didn't PGI post an average c-bills made per hour statistic a while ago? If sure that buying the packages with real money will work out to be much cheaper than the hours necessary to grind for them, but that only applies if you plan to grind for every single mech in the package.

[Amsro]

Masakari Package: 420,231,504 CB divided by 100,000 CBills (per match) = 4202 Matches!

Better start playing a serious amount of matches to buy all the clan mechs with c-bills.!

I've managed 4984 matches and 487,949,150.08 cbills since january this year.!

42 mechs so far, and I'm pretty broke. At this point I will be looking forward to battling clan mechs rather then collecting more mechs.

Edit;

4202 matches @ average 8 min per match = 560 Hours of "grind" !! or 23 Days straight of playing! HA!

Edit2;

5676 Matches

63 Mechs

Still broke.

Edited by Amsro, 25 February 2014 - 01:28 PM.

[DarkDevilDancer]

Well doing well with premium time from phoenix i get between 220-250k, say 3 games an hour for 750k that'd be what 454 hours 0.o.

That's making the clan packs look more reasonable.

Of course i suck at maths so welcome any correction.

[MeiSooHaityu]

I love the Timberwolf/Madcat, but it would be far cheaper to duct tape cardboard arms on my Catapult.

[TELEFORCE]

I have a feeling that the grind for Clan 'mechs won't be as long as we think it might be.

Yes, the Clan equipment is expensive as far as table top goes, but I don't think we'll be forced to grind out that much money in order to get all our beloved Clan toys. I bet the devs will tweak the prices as they see fit so that players won't be turned away from a 4000 game grind to get the equivalent of the Warhawk pack.

Edited by TELEFORCE, 15 December 2013 - 07:37 PM.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Teleforce, I hope your right. Still, I can't help thinking that with the Clan mech costs being so high (in real money), that C-Bill costs will be REALLY high. Time will tell I suppose.

[FupDup]

Well, the good news is that all Clan weaponry has identical costs to their Inner Sphere counterparts (look it up on Sarna or Techmanual). A decent part of the huge cost of Omnimechs is in their tech upgrades of XL, Endo, FF, and/or DHS being installed right out of the box, although just being an Omni does drive up the cost quite a bit as well.

[Deathlike]

It would be nice to get a nice loan from the only C-bill billionaire.

[dragnier1]

I doubt the cbill costs of clan mechs will be that much, probably 1.5x of IS mechs.

After all, they're really intent on nerfing clan gear

[luxebo]

Can we get an average of how much each mech chassis would be worth in C-bills? (x3 each chassis prime, but I'm terribly lazy.)

Edit: I'll just do it.

Kit Fox: around 16 mil
Nova: around 34 mil
Summoner: around 64 mil
Dire Wolf: around 88 mil
Adder: around 21 mil
Stormcrow: around 45 mil
Timber Wolf: around 72 mil
Warhawk: around 80 mil

There's a lot of grind right there, very expensive Clan tech.

Edited by luxebo, 15 December 2013 - 11:01 PM.

[JudgeDeathCZ]

I played 8658 matches till stats reset and grinded 645,498,409 c-bills and I still have 70M c-bills banked for Saber mechs and you can bet I will have way more when Clan mechs hit release for c-bills so I will have enough c-bills for them.
I have plenty of time to play MWO and to be honest I dropped $ for overlord+saber bcuz I knew what I am paying for but I do not wish to buy Clan mech pack bcuz I can not switch engines and armor on those mechs so I guess I buy them for c-bills .

[travelbug]

this is what ive been saving for.
well the good news is you will most probably have till 2015 till they come out for cbills. so you got time

[Amsro]

travelbug, on 16 December 2013 - 05:16 AM, said:

this is what ive been saving for.
well the good news is you will most probably have till 2015 till they come out for cbills. so you got time

Likely it will release the same way the Phoenix pack did, first mech at launch then one mech every month from there on.

That would make the Assault Clan mechs early 2015 as you say.

[Mawai]

TELEFORCE, on 15 December 2013 - 07:37 PM, said:

I have a feeling that the grind for Clan 'mechs won't be as long as we think it might be.

Yes, the Clan equipment is expensive as far as table top goes, but I don't think we'll be forced to grind out that much money in order to get all our beloved Clan toys. I bet the devs will tweak the prices as they see fit so that players won't be turned away from a 4000 game grind to get the equivalent of the Warhawk pack.

LOL no ... I expect that if anything PGI will make the cbill grind worse so as to encourage folks to buy MC to buy the mechs if they haven't bought the package. Since release, PGI has not once (in my recollection) made the game easier to earn mechs.

[Sprouticus]

1) You assume people will grind for all of them. People will grind for the ones they like and are good. So the cost will be far less than 400 million plus.


2) My guess of the release schedule is 4 in June (one of each class) and the next 4 1 per month. Which would make it Sept for the Timberwolf.

[TELEFORCE]

Sprouticus, on 16 December 2013 - 02:12 PM, said:

2) My guess of the release schedule is 4 in June (one of each class) and the next 4 1 per month. Which would make it Sept for the Timberwolf.

I agree with this. I think it would be kind of weird if there was only one chassis type of Clan 'mech available for a month. Poor lonely Clanner

[Chemie]

TELEFORCE, on 15 December 2013 - 07:37 PM, said:

I have a feeling that the grind for Clan 'mechs won't be as long as we think it might be.

Yes, the Clan equipment is expensive as far as table top goes, but I don't think we'll be forced to grind out that much money in order to get all our beloved Clan toys. I bet the devs will tweak the prices as they see fit so that players won't be turned away from a 4000 game grind to get the equivalent of the Warhawk pack.

Lol...you know they reduced the CB generation already...right? If they tweak it, it will be to lower it more...they are moving to $$ only for mechs here.

[Arctcwolf]

Part of why I like packages is the ability to get access to equipment I'd rather not have to grind for.

The phoenix package(minus sabre), was nice because I got a lot of different equipment to outfit each mech with. Part of what disappoints me with the clan packages is that I cant take the Clan FF/Endo Steel and XL engines and plug them into my Boars head, Heavy Metal, or D-DC atlas.

I want to use the clan equipment in my IS mech just like I did back in MW2:mercs. I want my atlas to go head 2 head with a daishi, both fully clanned out...and kick the $h!t out of the pure clanner.

Why cant I have that? why must clan equpiment be tied to the center torso of the mech?

[Veranova]

Arctcwolf, on 16 December 2013 - 08:27 PM, said:

Part of why I like packages is the ability to get access to equipment I'd rather not have to grind for.

The phoenix package(minus sabre), was nice because I got a lot of different equipment to outfit each mech with. Part of what disappoints me with the clan packages is that I cant take the Clan FF/Endo Steel and XL engines and plug them into my Boars head, Heavy Metal, or D-DC atlas.

I want to use the clan equipment in my IS mech just like I did back in MW2:mercs. I want my atlas to go head 2 head with a daishi, both fully clanned out...and kick the $h!t out of the pure clanner.

Why cant I have that? why must clan equpiment be tied to the center torso of the mech?

Because clan equipment is balanced against omnimech disadvantages.
You said yourself, a clanned out Atlas would beat a Daishi.
That's why!