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[theta123]

The battlemaster was the mech i was looking forward to. It is was favorite mech, next to the Warhammer, zeus and jagermech

When i first got the BLR's I had no problems with the 1D and 1S models. The D model sporting STD 340, 2 PPC's, one LL and 2 ML, with 21 Double heatsinks. And the S model with STD 285, LRM 15+10,2LL and 2 ML with 20 DHS and 4 ton of LRM ammo
BLR-1G
But the BLR 1G was struggeling...It was not dealing enough damage, it overheated like hell...
I had the ML's with each torso. So 3rd weapon group 3 ML's and 4th other 3 Ml's.
I tried chainfiring them, to save heat in one weapon group, rapidly pressing it, but then i found out that the chainfiring stop working properly when i started using the PPC and AC10.

With results...Frustrating matches and a W/L of 0.85 and a K/D of 0.90. Comparing this to my other BLR's: 1.5 W/L and 1.1 K/D.
So i went towards training grounds, redesigned it a bit. And kept my toe with 3 things: It must sport 6 ML's, it must have a PPC, it must have a STD engine

BLR-1G MK2

This became my build. Several things changed:
-AC10 swapped to UAC/5 (or AC5) with simular ammo loadout.
-3 extra DHS added

And the most crucial change was this.
All left ML's are put into weapon group 3 (Left shift button here)
All right ML's are put into weapon group 4( Space bar, i never use JJ on any mech)
All of these are Chain fired. The results were half the heat buildup, with a rapid fire of medium lasers pouring out, and what seemed to be also much better hit registration. These burst fire ML's have scored 10 kills in the last 5 matches. Not to mention the firepower of the UAC 5 and PPC

Weapon group 5 is like a panic button for opening fire with all 6 Medium lasers at once.


So guys, i hear alot of people complaining about the BLR-1G. Keep on testing builds after build after build. And you'll find it.

End tally now, after 15 matches:

W/L increased from 0.85 to 1.23!
K/D increased from 0.90 to 1.20!
Average damage output is up from 300 to 550!

The BLR-1G has become my second most played battlemech. And i am enjoy it alot. Seeing those 6 Medium lasers burst firing and keeping firing.......oooh such great satisfaction

Edited by theta123, 04 January 2014 - 05:32 AM.

[Amsro]

Yeah the 1G requires the most dedication to figure out (a little extra gimped torso range/speed wise)

theta123, on 04 January 2014 - 05:31 AM, said:

BLR-1G MK2

This became my build. Several things changed:
-AC10 swapped to UAC/5 (or AC5) with simular ammo loadout.
-3 extra DHS added

And the most crucial change was this.
All left ML's are put into weapon group 3 (Left shift button here)
All right ML's are put into weapon group 4( Space bar, i never use JJ on any mech)
All of these are Chain fired. The results were half the heat buildup, with a rapid fire of medium lasers pouring out, and what seemed to be also much better hit registration. These burst fire ML's have scored 10 kills in the last 5 matches. Not to mention the firepower of the UAC 5 and PPC

Weapon group 5 is like a panic button for opening fire with all 6 Medium lasers at once.


So guys, i hear alot of people complaining about the BLR-1G. Keep on testing builds after build after build. And you'll find it.

End tally now, after 15 matches:

W/L increased from 0.85 to 1.23!
K/D increased from 0.90 to 1.20!
Average damage output is up from 300 to 550!

The BLR-1G has become my second most played battlemech. And i am enjoy it alot. Seeing those 6 Medium lasers burst firing and keeping firing.......oooh such great satisfaction

I can without a doubt recommend you try your build using a XL370 engine, its almost a direct swap for the STD300 and the agility gained will blow your mind.

1G XL370

I will not remove the 370 engines from my Battlemasters, its the perfect blend of speed/agility/firepower. I find them to be pretty
XL friendly as well.

[theta123]

I refuse to go for XL engines, as i have had my Side torso's blown up alot with STD.And i survived because i had a STD engine. I dislike such builds alot, simular to high advanced builds of Triple PPC jumping mechs with posh equipment.

But yeah, same results, yet faster speed and mobility. But at 5M cbills for that engine...I am saving up for trying out the Atlas line again. Going for this build to be exact
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...48715d77948330c

Dual LB10X shotgun! oooohhh yeees

[Flawless]

If your not using 6 ppcs....your not doing it right.

[theta123]

Flawless, on 04 January 2014 - 08:17 AM, said:

If your not using 6 ppcs....your not doing it right.

BLR-1G
How bout 7?

hmmmmmm..........
Can such power be tamed
Are we worthy enough to wield such devestating force?

Edited by theta123, 04 January 2014 - 08:34 AM.

[ToxinTractor]

theta123, on 04 January 2014 - 08:34 AM, said:

BLR-1G
How bout 7?

hmmmmmm..........
Can such power be tamed
Are we worthy enough to wield such devestating force?

That made me sick.. i may have to try it after i wipe the vomit from my face.

[Flawless]

7 may be pushing it. I run 6 all the time. Its ok at range on chain fire. Then as a last ditch effort drop all six for the insta kill.

[Junkman7mgte]

theta123, on 04 January 2014 - 08:34 AM, said:

BLR-1G
How bout 7?

hmmmmmm..........
Can such power be tamed
Are we worthy enough to wield such devestating force?

My son built it both ways and went to testing grounds. Chainfire, and mixing up weapons groups was "manageable" alpha with 7 was insta death, and alpha with 6 was .... I have 2 shots, 1 minute apart guys, then I'm dead, LMAO.

[Bishop Steiner]

theta123, on 04 January 2014 - 08:15 AM, said:

I refuse to go for XL engines, as i have had my Side torso's blown up alot with STD.And i survived because i had a STD engine. I dislike such builds alot, simular to high advanced builds of Triple PPC jumping mechs with posh equipment.

But yeah, same results, yet faster speed and mobility. But at 5M cbills for that engine...I am saving up for trying out the Atlas line again. Going for this build to be exact
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...48715d77948330c

Dual LB10X shotgun! oooohhh yeees

It's all about the twist my friend. I run XLs exclusively in my BLRs now. I think Amsro might over engine his slightly, but whatever works. My 1G is actually kinda slow, but packs 2 PPC, 4 Medium lasers, and 2 AC 5 with the DHS and Ammo to use them. It's designed to anchor a formation, much the way I run an Atlas.

My 1D and 1S both rock 350XLs, and do fine, the 1D with 4 Large Lasers and an AC10, the 1S with 2 PPC, 2 Large Laser and 2 ASRM6 in the arms.

I have died to ST death maybe a half dozen times out of 150 matches.

[Sowaka]

This is one of my favorite tactics, though it does prevent you from torso twisting. It certainly scares the pants off everyone though.If you get a hunchback and slap 8 MLs onto it you can set all the MLs to chainfire when you hold down both the LMB and RMB, you'll end up with a continuous stream of two MLs firing at once without any interruption. Enemies run away fast when they realize you're just firing a constant chain of 2 MLs at once.

[VectorCV6]

I originally ran the 1G as a Gauss Rifle (3 tons of ammo) with 5 ML lasers and found it to be quite effective. Now I wanted something a bit more focused decided I needed something a bit more brawler like.

With that I have been messing around with different pulse lasers and foudn this to be extremely effective up close, and Alpha all the weapon groups doesn't kill me allowing me to either chainfire everything but the AC/5s or just Alpha them depending on positioning, and damage to opposing mech: Brawler

Been running it for about a week, 20 or so matches and extremely liking it. Has a bit more bang than my previous run and can surprise people, not to mention it has lots of weapons!

[Unnatural Growth]

Here's my G:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...08429dd31163eaa

I also went XL, and went 380. The speed and maneuverability is great. I chain fire the 6 ML's, but can also alpha the ERLL, 6 ML's, and the LB10X together. I'm actually doing better with this one than the other 2 variants so far.

[Escef]

And the Battlemaster was after him like a shot, or as much like a shot as a Battlemaster can move...

[Amsro]

Escef, on 04 January 2014 - 01:58 PM, said:

And the Battlemaster was after him like a shot, or as much like a shot as a Battlemaster can move...

I don't always skip the ballistic slot, but when I do its for 6xLargeLasers.

[Escef]

Amsro, on 04 January 2014 - 02:09 PM, said:

I don't always skip the ballistic slot, but when I do its for 6xLargeLasers.

Shenanigans like that are probably why they gave it the same torso twist as most of the Stalkers.

[Amsro]

Escef, on 04 January 2014 - 02:16 PM, said:

Shenanigans like that are probably why they gave it the same torso twist as most of the Stalkers.

Could be, even still I can melt mechs. 2xBasic Efficiencies make all the difference.!

2+2+2 or chainfire, either way armor will run off enemy mechs!

[Lucky Moniker]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...41a60529364933f

This is my favorite, moves at ~85 kph with speed tweak, runs pretty damn cool considering the loadout. it makes for a brutal battering ram to lead a charge

Edited by Lucky Moniker, 04 January 2014 - 10:33 PM.

[Kin3ticX]

I am still wondering why I have to fight the 60 degree twist on the G when the highlanders and victors are meta and all have 90 degrees+ pilot lab + Jump jets..........

[Amsro]

Kin3ticX, on 04 January 2014 - 11:01 PM, said:

I am still wondering why I have to fight the 60 degree twist on the G when the highlanders and victors are meta and all have 90 degrees+ pilot lab + Jump jets..........

Because 6 high mount torso energy? Already I can melt mechs with my 6 Large Laser setup, if the torso had more twist and agility it would be comically good!

Apples and Oranges, at no time should you be playing a Battlemaster the way you do a Highlander or Victor, its more like the Atlas then either of the JJ Assaults.

[Kin3ticX]

Amsro, on 05 January 2014 - 08:32 AM, said:

Because 6 high mount torso energy? Already I can melt mechs with my 6 Large Laser setup, if the torso had more twist and agility it would be comically good!

Apples and Oranges, at no time should you be playing a Battlemaster the way you do a Highlander or Victor, its more like the Atlas then either of the JJ Assaults.

6 Large Lasers? That sounds very optimized for feeding the meta.....