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[STEF_]

Kmieciu, on 19 January 2015 - 04:48 AM, said:

I'm gonna play the devil's advocate here by saying the Locus is highly overrated.

If we were able to bring 12 Locusts (240 tonnes) into CW, then the mech would be viable even without quirks.

I've just mastered my 4th Firestarter and find haven't met even one Locust that was a threat to me. I had some tough fights against Jenners and Spiders, as well as Ravens (well, Huggin mostly).

Lucust is a free frag for me. Just yesterday I one-shotted a fresh Locust using 5xMPL. It has a huge CT that easily takes damage. Having said that I've just bought 3 of them little buggers on sale. They are so cute I enjoy just looking at them in the mechlab :-)

If you look at the specifics, you'll see why a locust cannot be a threat for a firestarter going 1 on 1.

BUT, the true reason why we love piloting those lovely little ones, is for feeling the thrill and the breaze. You can die in any moment, and while you run at 170kph it's always a lol harrasser, backstabber.
That said, locusts have the highest dmg per ton ratio, i.e. a match with 200 dmg equals a 1000dmg match for a Dire.... it's a pity that MWO doesn't take into account a dmg per ton rewards. Any locust pilot would be richest than Blake

Obviously I love Firestarters, best lights imo, and easy!
But when I want to have fun, lol, heartbeating thrill----> commando or locusts for sure!

[Ovion]

Kmieciu, on 19 January 2015 - 04:48 AM, said:

I'm gonna play the devil's advocate here by saying the Locus is highly overrated.

If we were able to bring 12 Locusts (240 tonnes) into CW, then the mech would be viable even without quirks.

I've just mastered my 4th Firestarter and find haven't met even one Locust that was a threat to me. I had some tough fights against Jenners and Spiders, as well as Ravens (well, Huggin mostly).

Lucust is a free frag for me. Just yesterday I one-shotted a fresh Locust using 5xMPL. It has a huge CT that easily takes damage. Having said that I've just bought 3 of them little buggers on sale. They are so cute I enjoy just looking at them in the mechlab :-)

Lets give you some info there.

1 - 5MPL has an Alpha of 30pts.
Unless you were facing a stock, or new player, you aren't dropping a clean locust with one alpha, as you need to do around 33 if a Locust is armoured properly.
STs, or RTs, yeah, I can see it being one shot with a 30 alpha though.
It's not going to stand up to a weapon that weighs as much as it does (or even half as much), if it gets a solid hit on the mech.

2 - You're complaining? chest-thumping? that the Locust, the lightest mech in the game, can't stand up to the biggest light mech, that's currently one of the most powerful IS mechs overall.
Really, I'd have never guessed.
Firestarters bring the pain atm regardless of the mech you're in.

3 - No, it's not so underrated any more.
It's a lot easier to get into.
It's still a very unforgiving mech (unlike the FS9), relying on speed and movement to survive.

4 - Pilot the ones you've got, learn the love.
You're flying along the ground, superfast.
Death could come at any second, you have to be incredibly vigilant to survive and do well.
It's a hell of a rush.

Edited by Ovion, 19 January 2015 - 05:21 AM.

[Kmieciu]

All I'm saying is that from a competitive standpoint, the Locust is terribly underpowered. FS9 has 75% more tonnage and only 12% less speed. Even the Spider can match the Locust in speed.

Come to think of it, I think I'll try the MPL quirks on SDR-5V. 170 kph with an insane jumping ability :-)

Edited by Kmieciu, 19 January 2015 - 06:03 AM.

[Apocryph0n]

Kmieciu, on 19 January 2015 - 06:03 AM, said:

All I'm saying is that from a competitive standpoint, the Locust is terribly underpowered. FS9 has 75% more tonnage and only 12% less speed. Even the Spider can match the Locust in speed.

No one ever said that the LCT was competitive in here. Also: Not all leagues allow you to bring any mech you want, so there goes your ability to bring a firestarter most of the time.

Bringing up the FS9 in here is like complaining that a Victor does not face-tank as much as an Atlas. Oh, really? News at 11.

LCT is for thrills. You won't feel the adrenaline rush in any other light that you get when you actually carry a match in a Locust. The part that makes the LCT awesome is the fact that you know: You will die when you move around the wrong corner. It's a much more rewarding experience to score some kills in a LCT than a FS9, at least for me.

Edit: Also the LCT is the king of Peek-A-Boo and Backstabbing, nothing peeks as quick as the LCT (It's fun when you are already back behind a corner and see the lasers shooting the ground where you where half a second ago )

Edited by Apocryph0n, 19 January 2015 - 06:18 AM.

[3xnihilo]

Ljusdahl, on 19 January 2015 - 04:42 AM, said:

I guess I should share this.

I hope for your sake this wasn't during the challenge . Team wins "check", Got kill "check, 8 of 'em", one or more kill assist "erm. . . oops"

[Tim East]

Kmieciu, on 19 January 2015 - 04:48 AM, said:

I'm gonna play the devil's advocate here by saying the Locus is highly overrated.

If we were able to bring 12 Locusts (240 tonnes) into CW, then the mech would be viable even without quirks.

I've just mastered my 4th Firestarter and find haven't met even one Locust that was a threat to me. I had some tough fights against Jenners and Spiders, as well as Ravens (well, Huggin mostly).

Lucust is a free frag for me. Just yesterday I one-shotted a fresh Locust using 5xMPL. It has a huge CT that easily takes damage. Having said that I've just bought 3 of them little buggers on sale. They are so cute I enjoy just looking at them in the mechlab :-)

It's funny, because the FSR is the only mech I fear in my Locust. The one version of them carries 3 more SPL and loads more armor than me at the cost of just a few kph. People say I should beware lights, but I love taking threats on head-on. Must be my inner Zell.

I don't fear the Spider; they can't really outgun me, I don't fear the Jenner; their CT is super-vulnerable and they can only carry a little more armament than I, I don't fear the Raven; their legs are made of tissue paper, I don't fear the Commando; they are my equal but missiles aren't very good against me, I don't fear other Locusts; no other mech is as good a measure of my dueling skill, I don't fear the Adder or Kitfox; they may as well be mediums for how slow they are; I don't fear the Mist Lynx; its arms fall off if I look at it funny.

Only the Firestarter has enough speed to somewhat keep up, with the guns to out dps me and the hitboxes to not die.

[3xnihilo]

Tim East, on 19 January 2015 - 10:19 AM, said:

It's funny, because the FSR is the only mech I fear in my Locust. The one version of them carries 3 more SPL and loads more armor than me at the cost of just a few kph. People say I should beware lights, but I love taking threats on head-on. Must be my inner Zell.

I don't fear the Spider; they can't really outgun me, I don't fear the Jenner; their CT is super-vulnerable and they can only carry a little more armament than I, I don't fear the Raven; their legs are made of tissue paper, I don't fear the Commando; they are my equal but missiles aren't very good against me, I don't fear other Locusts; no other mech is as good a measure of my dueling skill, I don't fear the Adder or Kitfox; they may as well be mediums for how slow they are; I don't fear the Mist Lynx; its arms fall off if I look at it funny.

Only the Firestarter has enough speed to somewhat keep up, with the guns to out dps me and the hitboxes to not die.

You speak truth!

[James Saxon]

This was during challenge and I was surprised that I managed to pull this off.
I just had to risk like this because the match was not going in my team's favor.
I must've been that desperate on getting the Cataphract.

[IraqiWalker]

PACoFist, on 19 January 2015 - 03:14 AM, said:

How do you guys play the 1V.

I love the 1E, play it as a SL-boat. Works better than I thought it would.
I made a Streakcust with the 3S and go hunting other lights. Not as good as the 1E but I had some good matches.

But I completely fail to find a usefull build for the 1V. I tried 1 MPL + 4 MG and 1 ERL + 2 MG and only 1 ERL. The problem is that MGs really suck for hit and run attacks, because you got to keep them on target. And staying close to the target always gets me killed. And only one ERL is not really usefull.

What is your experience with the 1V?

I already thought about selling it and getting the 3M instead.

Slap 5 SPLs in the 3M, and you have yourself an AC 20 (a bit stronger actually) traveling at 170 Kph, cycling faster too.

As for the 1V, I recommend either the 1ML/MPL+4MGs build, for all your vulturing/assassin/clean up needs, or the ERLL builds for your I-hit-you-at-600-meters-and-you-don't-get-to-say-anything-about-it needs.

Ljusdahl, on 19 January 2015 - 04:42 AM, said:

I guess I should share this.

Nice numbers there. The 8 kills is a bit much. I assume your team wanted to kill you after they saw the scoreboard. Also, I think this should be in the carry harder thread.

James Saxon, on 19 January 2015 - 11:40 AM, said:

This was during challenge and I was surprised that I managed to pull this off.
I just had to risk like this because the match was not going in my team's favor.
I must've been that desperate on getting the Cataphract.

Should definitely be in the carry harder thread. You and that Mist Lynx (considered a bad clan light hilariously) carried your team hard.

[KuroNyra]

Takashi Uchida, on 04 November 2014 - 05:42 PM, said:

Welcome to the new age.. to the new age..

basics + speed tweak

I'm Radioactive! Radioactive!



Gonna need a thread for the Urbanmech I think. Will some of you join the club?

[Ovion]

KuroNyra, on 19 January 2015 - 12:20 PM, said:

I'm Radioactive! Radioactive!

Gonna need a thread for the Urbanmech I think. Will some of you join the club?

Of course.

I have and will have all lights, and the Urbies a biggy for me.

[HlynkaCG]

Kmieciu, on 19 January 2015 - 06:03 AM, said:

All I'm saying is that from a competitive standpoint, the Locust is terribly underpowered. FS9 has 75% more tonnage and only 12% less speed.

That's because the FS9 is easy mode. It's a crutch for неяйца light pilots who lack the skill to compete in anything else.

[IraqiWalker]

KuroNyra, on 19 January 2015 - 12:20 PM, said:

I'm Radioactive! Radioactive!



Gonna need a thread for the Urbanmech I think. Will some of you join the club?

Count me in too.

[3xnihilo]

KuroNyra, on 19 January 2015 - 12:20 PM, said:

I'm Radioactive! Radioactive!



Gonna need a thread for the Urbanmech I think. Will some of you join the club?

But of course

[GreyNovember]

Got the hang of the SRM Locust.

It's. Very short lived. In life, or in ammo count.

Granted, you will seriously mess up a heavier mech for a minute while your friends move in, but you are almost never meant to kill anything, unless the vital components were orange and open. Once those SRMs are out, all you have is a piddly SL/ML to try and crit anything that's open. Really feels like the one trick pony of all the locusts.

1V and 1E at least, I can get comfortable with and are more forgiving. Good learning experience though. Now if only my Huginn ran that fast.

[Ljusdahl]

3xnihilo, on 19 January 2015 - 07:04 AM, said:

I hope for your sake this wasn't during the challenge . Team wins "check", Got kill "check, 8 of 'em", one or more kill assist "erm. . . oops"

IraqiWalker, on 19 January 2015 - 11:57 AM, said:

Nice numbers there. The 8 kills is a bit much. I assume your team wanted to kill you after they saw the scoreboard. Also, I think this should be in the carry harder thread.

It was during the challenge, that's the funny part. We'll see if I get accidentally teamkilled more often from now on..

[Stingray Productions]

Saw someone do this just barely. Here I am with 960 damage in my catapult thinking I'm sooooo cool.....then the games ends with this match score:



....I will never doubt the locust again.

"It's not the mech, it's the pilot"

[InspectorG]

Tim East, on 19 January 2015 - 10:19 AM, said:

It's funny, because the FSR is the only mech I fear in my Locust. The one version of them carries 3 more SPL and loads more armor than me at the cost of just a few kph. People say I should beware lights, but I love taking threats on head-on. Must be my inner Zell.

I don't fear the Spider; they can't really outgun me, I don't fear the Jenner; their CT is super-vulnerable and they can only carry a little more armament than I, I don't fear the Raven; their legs are made of tissue paper, I don't fear the Commando; they are my equal but missiles aren't very good against me, I don't fear other Locusts; no other mech is as good a measure of my dueling skill, I don't fear the Adder or Kitfox; they may as well be mediums for how slow they are; I don't fear the Mist Lynx; its arms fall off if I look at it funny.

Only the Firestarter has enough speed to somewhat keep up, with the guns to out dps me and the hitboxes to not die.

Do you fear the Oxide?

Kmieciu, on 19 January 2015 - 06:03 AM, said:

All I'm saying is that from a competitive standpoint, the Locust is terribly underpowered.

Do you realize that is why we run it????

Locust is the hardest working mech in the biz.

When you kill any other mech with a Locust...thats pretty much an insult in and of itself.

[Dino Might]

Tarogato, on 15 January 2015 - 09:09 PM, said:

Also, he briefly mentioned dual guass Locusts.

I don't understand the reference. I tried to make a Gauss Locust with the 1V. It is impossible at the moment.
The best build going for now is the dual AC2 Pirate's Bane, as pictured in my sig.

XL 100, endo, no armor, 2x AC2 with 1/2 ton of ammo.

Wicked fun for about 9 seconds of fire.

[Tarogato]

Dino Might, on 19 January 2015 - 08:24 PM, said:

I don't understand the reference. I tried to make a Gauss Locust with the 1V. It is impossible at the moment.
The best build going for now is the dual AC2 Pirate's Bane, as pictured in my sig.

Actually I misinterpreted him, he says "Locusts aren't supposed to take dual gauss", as in they aren't supposed to be able to live from taking a hit from dual gauss. I instead mistook it as a joke that Locusts aren't supposed to mount dual gauss but people wish they could. =P