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[loopala]

Yep xl190 is the engine for a locust. now the xl180 does have a place in good builds. while the xl170 is more for troll builds. Like the underrated Locust forum (ULF) HOTH courser

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...46047787312726c

ECM and an ERPPC, add ERPPC range and cooldown mods. this thing becomes a real PIA for the reds. but as i typed it is a a very niche build that workd best on wide open maps with line of sight in the 800m plus category. if you get Mordor, well it get a bit toasty..

[Ovion]

Jordan Hunter, on 12 December 2016 - 02:44 AM, said:

OK, so it's been while. Haven't played MWO since '13. Elited the only 3 Locusts available at the time before RL interfered and I moved on to other projects. But I never uninstalled the client and one day last month, just decided to click on it for a whim. After much patching, I have enjoyed getting back into my lil' bug. But things are very different now, not that I was any good back in '13. Which is why I started reading this thread for tips and ideas, all 224 pages...Only now got to the end and I had a question. Does everyone run a 190 on their Locust or is it workable to have the 180 or even 170? I was thinking about moving down a rung or two to put a little more firepower in and have some different builds available but wasn't sure if the 180 or 170 would be a better buy.

You've probably seen my posts if you've read this thread...

But here it is condensed, it may help:
https://mwomercs.com...ry-locust-help/

[Virlutris]

Jordan Hunter, on 12 December 2016 - 02:44 AM, said:

OK, so it's been while. Haven't played MWO since '13. Elited the only 3 Locusts available at the time before RL interfered and I moved on to other projects. But I never uninstalled the client and one day last month, just decided to click on it for a whim. After much patching, I have enjoyed getting back into my lil' bug. But things are very different now, not that I was any good back in '13. Which is why I started reading this thread for tips and ideas, all 224 pages...Only now got to the end and I had a question. Does everyone run a 190 on their Locust or is it workable to have the 180 or even 170? I was thinking about moving down a rung or two to put a little more firepower in and have some different builds available but wasn't sure if the 180 or 170 would be a better buy.

XL190 is the primary, because speed is inordinately important in such a lightweight much for a bunch of reasons.

That said, the XL180 comes in handy on certain builds that just have to have that extra half-ton to work with. What I did was get an XL190 for all of them, then a couple extra XL180s for specific applications.

The 3S SRM-bomber is one such build. You're still fast enough to hit and run selectively. You have to be patient and wait for your prey to come into range anyway. If you were forcing the action more, you might want the speed. As it is, you've got to wait and watch for the match to come to you. The somewhat slower speed is fine for that, and the ammo is far more precious.

I'm also one of the weirdos that likes the XL180 on the PB. I'm In this case, the ECM mitigates the slower speed because if you're playing smart the enemy doesn't see you as quickly because the computers don't pick you up as soon and consequently don't rat you out as quickly. The ECM sucks up 1.5 tons, so I prefer to get a half ton of that back from the engine weight. With the builds I run, it works out well. If the math is different, and there's room for the XL190 with your build, so much the better

The extra XL180s came in handy for my Urbies anyway, so it was a win-win. Now, on the Urbie I do run one with an XL170, for similar reasons. Lots of guns and stuff, need that little extra weight :3

Edit: SPELLING

Edited by Virlutris, 12 December 2016 - 11:30 AM.

[Thor Sten]

180xl is a good reactor. 160-170xl engines only have 6 internal heatsinks, 180-190xls have 7, and we need 10, making the "real" weight difference from 160xl to 180xl only half a ton. On top of that, Internal double heatsinks work better than external ones, which makes the 180xl better for energy builds than the 170xl.

(Even if I love that additional half ton of MG ammo in my PB (I constantly run out of my single ton), I prefer the 190xl, because everything else feels a little bit "extra slow" )

Edited by Thor Sten, 12 December 2016 - 03:28 PM.

[Jordan Hunter]

Thanks for the input. I think I will invest in a 180xl for some more versatility, especially since the 3S was the most natural fit for whatever reason and some more ammo would be useful. That said, I am currently working on the 3M since it was in the hangar. Speed tweak is unlocked but the chassis is not mastered.
Useful or Useless?
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...echlab#modified

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...97a798a66131364

Edited by Jordan Hunter, 13 December 2016 - 05:56 AM.

[Ovion]

Jordan Hunter, on 13 December 2016 - 05:53 AM, said:

Thanks for the input. I think I will invest in a 180xl for some more versatility, especially since the 3S was the most natural fit for whatever reason and some more ammo would be useful. That said, I am currently working on the 3M since it was in the hangar. Speed tweak is unlocked but the chassis is not mastered.
Useful or Useless?
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...echlab#modified

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...97a798a66131364

Is going to die pretty effectively, and a bit of a mess.
The BAP is what's killing you, and won't really do anything for you.
Being you can do that build more effectively with an XL190, just by dropping the BAP...
1ERLL, 4SL LCT-3M

Check out:

Spoiler

Common 3M Builds:
4SPL, MPL LCT-3M
3SPL, 2MPL LCT-3M
5ML LCT-3M (Overarmoured)
4ML, MPL LCT-3M
3ML, 2MPL LCT-3M
2SL, 3MPL LCT-3M
3MPL LCT-3M
Uncommon 3M Builds:
LPL LCT-3M
ERPPC LCT-3M
1LL, 2ML LCT-3M
1LL, 4SL LCT-3M
1ERLL, 2ML LCT-3M
- Alt 1LL, 2ML LCT-3M
1ERLL, 4SL LCT-3M
4MPL LCT-3M (XL170)
4ML LCT-3M (STD A, XL170)

[invernomuto]

Ovion, on 12 December 2016 - 09:31 AM, said:

You've probably seen my posts if you've read this thread...

But here it is condensed, it may help:
https://mwomercs.com...ry-locust-help/

Thanks, very informative posts.

[3xnihilo]

invernomuto, on 13 December 2016 - 08:21 AM, said:

Thanks, very informative posts.

Yeah Ovion has a doctoral degree in theoretical locusting with a related minor in abnormal human psychology

I think he is working on a book: Locusts and the Maniacs Who Drive Them

[Evilwallofdeath]

The Dual AMS Locust (LCT-3M) is my favorite. I run it with an XL190, 4xML, 2xAMS, and as much AMS ammo as I can cram into it. It can survive at least three salvos of stormcrow SSRM boat alphas at ranges outside 180m if you have some AMS modules on it.

Locusts are very survivable mechs if you play smart. Just don't try to face hump brawlers, go after support mechs and the back armor of assaults ,chase other lights.

[Thor Sten]

Jordan Hunter, on 13 December 2016 - 05:53 AM, said:

Thanks for the input. I think I will invest in a 180xl for some more versatility, especially since the 3S was the most natural fit for whatever reason and some more ammo would be useful. That said, I am currently working on the 3M since it was in the hangar. Speed tweak is unlocked but the chassis is not mastered.
Useful or Useless?

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...97a798a66131364

I think you might run a little hot with this. As long as you use either the small lasers or the large laser everything should be quite fine, but if you give in to the temptation of using both at once in a brawl it might shut down quickly. Better take a cool shot with you.

[Requiemking]

Recently, I've been derping about with this one.

LCT-3V

[Ovion]

Requiemking, on 14 December 2016 - 12:43 AM, said:

Recently, I've been derping about with this one.

LCT-3V

Recently I've been derping in this one: LCT-3V

Edited by Ovion, 14 December 2016 - 02:34 AM.

[IraqiWalker]

Requiemking, on 14 December 2016 - 12:43 AM, said:

Recently, I've been derping about with this one.

LCT-3V

2MPLs, 2MGs is the set up I have on mine.

Ovion, on 14 December 2016 - 02:34 AM, said:

Recently I've been derping in this one: LCT-3V

I would object to the lack of armor, but how is that different from any other day for a locust?

[stealthraccoon]

I'm going to need to give the MG Loci a good wringing out to see how the dps works out.

[Ovion]

IraqiWalker, on 14 December 2016 - 08:02 PM, said:

I would object to the lack of armor, but how is that different from any other day for a locust?

Oh it is so different.

I call it Jouster the Slowcust.
0 armour, going so damn slow - you can't dodge, you're open to the world and everything becomes different and 100 times more likely to kill you.
Even LRM's missing a team mate could kill you!

It's a hell of an experience, and well worth the C-Bills it cost to put the thing together.

I had 2MPL, 2MG on the 3V before, and it just felt.. meh...
The LBX10 Slowcust build though... I'm keeping that.

[Penwize]

A while ago (maybe a year? Damn), the LCT-1M lost a lot of its desirability with the IS-wide range nerf. The thing used to have +50% energy range! When that dropped down to a pitiful +10%, I cried quietly and stripped my 1M of parts and engine, vowing that one day I'd find a way to redeem it. Two missile and two energy hardpoints on a 20-ton mech? Sure it's nimble but yech.

Well, I tried a new build recently and while it's not redemption, it's the next best thing - an unholy abomination that shares my pain and sadness with all the red doritos.

This build is pretty specialized and you've gotta ask yourself some questions before fielding this awful stupid pest. Does the map facilitate good LRM usage? Do your teammates have LRM's? Are those teammates competent? Can you actually live with yourself after dishing out this kind of disgusting justice on your opponents?

If you answered yes to all of the above (except that third question obviously), then you'll go and have games where you get more assists than damage done. And make half a million C-Bills. Also shame on you.

Edited by Penwize, 02 January 2017 - 12:21 PM.

[IraqiWalker]

LRM dingys can make assaults shake with rage, frustration, and fear. Seriously.

[no one]

Koniving has accepted the naked locust challenge.

https://mwomercs.com...ost__p__5546072

Do we have any others with the conviction to scoff at certain death?

Edited by no one, 02 January 2017 - 04:22 PM.

[Helene de Montfort]

do this count?

[Burning2nd]

Ive been running the bane since i got it for free a few weeks back...

Im yelding 700-1200 damage rounds, 500k+ cbills

Ive got from 6million to 60million cbills in just a few short weeks... Im going to continue to run it until they nerf it

IMO most exploitable mech out there, completely unfair, and at the end of the day... me in a bane vs anything 1on1, and im gonna win..

GL

sorry for the poor shot.. but there is something wrong with my print screen... It only captures a totally black picture... So ive been snaping the big rounds with my phone