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#121 Roadbeer

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 10:13 AM

View PostDocBach, on 17 January 2014 - 09:37 AM, said:


it'd be easier if they'd just sticky one big post with all the points already made

http://mwomercs.com/...ement-feedback/

#122 Khobai

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 10:15 AM

that post is a year old no reads that anymore

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 10:16 AM

View PostKhobai, on 17 January 2014 - 10:15 AM, said:

that post is a year old no reads that anymore


It's technically K-Town for the uninformed.

#124 Mystere

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 10:16 AM

View PostKahnawake MechMaster Prime, on 17 January 2014 - 10:12 AM, said:

Give both ECM & LRMs a 15k GXP module unlock, w/ 6 mill in C-bills cost, giving ECM its blanket back and giving LRMs back the ability to get locks and fire from behind cover with out needed LoS.


New players and space poors and are going to have a fit with these. :D

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 10:18 AM

View PostKhobai, on 17 January 2014 - 10:15 AM, said:

that post is a year old no reads that anymore

So since the information is a year old, but still relevant, lets just keep making new posts about it?
http://mwomercs.com/...about%E2%80%A6/

ggclose

#126 Khobai

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 10:20 AM

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So since the information is a year old, but still relevant, lets just keep making new posts about it?


the squeaky wheel gets the grease

#127 DocBach

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 10:20 AM

View PostKahnawake MechMaster Prime, on 17 January 2014 - 10:12 AM, said:

Imo, an easy fix to ECM would be to make LRMs need LoS (line of sight) , then u can take the 180m blanket off ECM.
Give both ECM & LRMs a 15k GXP module unlock, w/ 6 mill in C-bills cost, giving ECM its blanket back and giving LRMs back the ability to get locks and fire from behind cover with out needed LoS.
  • ECM - only works for the mech its equipped on, adding 15k GXP 6mill cbill module restores 180m blanket.
  • LRM - needs LoS to get locks, adding 15k GXP 6mill cbill module restores ability to get locks behind cover.
If both are going to be OP then let them need expansive modules to do so.

The reason ECM is what it is today is because LRMs don't need LoS and can rain holy hell from 900+m away from behind 2 mountains.


Modules could be a way of balancing both LRM's and ECM, stripping their effectiveness and making players who want to specialize in their use take modules to do so -- they did announce that weapons and such would be getting individual modules with the upcoming player level system.

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 10:26 AM

View PostRoadbeer, on 17 January 2014 - 10:13 AM, said:



No, no.... a new post with the points made in the first post so you don't have to dig through 75 pages of vitriol from both sides to find relevant info.

#129 wanderer

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 10:40 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 17 January 2014 - 09:07 AM, said:

you know how many times I don't hit R and kill a mech?


You know how many times you could have hit R and killed it faster?

(Obviously, you don't- but the answer is "often", considering how many people are surprised to find their target was actually dinged up before they encountered them on PUG chats.)

#130 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 10:44 AM

View Postwanderer, on 17 January 2014 - 10:40 AM, said:


You know how many times you could have hit R and killed it faster?

(Obviously, you don't- but the answer is "often", considering how many people are surprised to find their target was actually dinged up before they encountered them on PUG chats.)

A lot! See you AND I do know the answer, but in the heat of the moment we don't always do the smart thing.

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 10:50 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 17 January 2014 - 10:44 AM, said:

A lot! See you AND I do know the answer, but in the heat of the moment we don't always do the smart thing.


Sounds like you have more than one weapon group. How unmeta. Single click dakka FTW!

Edited by Roadbeer, 17 January 2014 - 10:50 AM.


#132 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 11:05 AM

View PostRoadbeer, on 17 January 2014 - 10:50 AM, said:


Sounds like you have more than one weapon group. How unmeta. Single click dakka FTW!

Well why would I want my SRMs an Medium lasers to fire when I am at 600M from my target? :P

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 11:13 AM

SRM's and medium lasers are also unmeta.

Sorry Joe.

#134 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 11:18 AM

View PostDocBach, on 17 January 2014 - 11:13 AM, said:

SRM's and medium lasers are also unmeta.

Sorry Joe.

Don't be Boss, I get good results with em.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 17 January 2014 - 11:18 AM.


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Posted 17 January 2014 - 11:19 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 17 January 2014 - 11:05 AM, said:

Well why would I want my SRMs an Medium lasers to fire when I am at 600M from my target? :P

By now, I shouldn't need /sarcasm with you.
I was indirectly mocking the meta-humpers

#136 Khobai

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 11:22 AM

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Sounds like you have more than one weapon group. How unmeta. Single click dakka FTW!


I have two weapon groups. One for PPCs and one for Autocannons.

#137 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 11:24 AM

View PostRoadbeer, on 17 January 2014 - 11:19 AM, said:

By now, I shouldn't need /sarcasm with you.
I was indirectly mocking the meta-humpers

And I was playing Oblivious! :P

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 11:24 AM

View Postcolsan, on 15 January 2014 - 01:22 PM, said:

Or even just a phlogistonic scanner, that lets you do, well, whatever you can think of :P

Once the rules have been thrown out, everything else is easy.



I want the "oscillation overthruster" from Buckaroo Banzai so my mech can pass through mountains and buildings. BB was a character in BT novels, so at least it could be quasi-canonical -_-

#139 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 11:26 AM

View PostKhobai, on 17 January 2014 - 11:22 AM, said:


I have two weapon groups. One for PPCs and one for Autocannons.

I generally have 3-4
I have my Long range energy an Ballistics on Mouse 1 and 2 hen I have Medium lasers on the Razor's number pad 4 SRMs on 5 and LRMs(if I have them) on 8.

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 11:28 AM

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Edited by Effectz, 17 January 2014 - 11:30 AM.






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