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[Flapdrol]

Right, gave this pcpartpicker thing a go.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RQdYRB
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....RB/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($61.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $566.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-21 06:16 EDT-0400

Went a little over budget, but I didn't want to cut corners by doing stuff like no OS, 4GB ram, crappy case and psu, 1GB gpu. If you have 600 to spend I'd upgrade the ssd to a 240GB model.

If you want to save money I suggest reusing an old operating system or getting a cheap used gpu, like a gtx470 (which I currently have) or something similar.

I went with the pentium because mwo demands per-core performance in a big brawl, nvidia card because they score better in cpu overhead, which is the cause of mwo slowdowns in a big brawl.

You might need to update the bios to be able to overclock, I run my g3258 on 4.6 on my H81 board, performance is great if you keep settings modest.

[Goose]

Intel Friday

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120V 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($86.87 @ Amazon)
Memory: Mushkin Redline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 280 3GB TurboDuo Video Card ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($41.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($13.50 @ Newegg)
Total: $768.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-22 17:13 EDT-0400

Base Total: $842.78
Promo Discounts: -$4.49
Mail-in Rebates: -$70.00
Total: $768.29

That CPU realy does seem like the bang-for-buck part, so I tried not to hold it back.

You could get an R9 280X for another $25, and the PSU can handle it.

The Three Hundred Illusion was cheaper, and came with moar fans, the the Three Hundred Two. Not that I like Antec fans … There also seems to be a thing about the stock fan for the cooler, but if the provided BladeMaster doesn't have the static presser at whatever RPM, who does?

Spoiler

I'm just gon'a skip AMD Saturday 'till 01SEP has come'n gone, what with the price cut coming …

[Lord Letto]

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7jxdGX
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....GX/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD A10-6790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-HD3 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($49.79 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($87.79 @ Amazon)
Case: Xigmatek Aeos MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $499.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-22 19:52 EDT-0400

[Goose]

And an extra, for no good reason

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($198.95 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Rosewill RCX-ZAIO-92 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-2000 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270 2GB TurboDuo Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($13.50 @ Newegg)
Total: $637.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-23 00:34 EDT-0400

Base Total: $712.86
Promo Discounts: -$10.48
Mail-in Rebates: -$65.00
Total: $637.38

No extra fans, and the optical drive could go, too; There's this extra 0.3 amps on the 12V rail costing and extra $10.

Spoiler

[Lord Letto]

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RKzwmG
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....mG/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD A10-6790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver Ceramique 2 Tri-Linear 2.7g Thermal Paste ($3.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($40.38 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston XMP Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($75.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 500GB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R7 260X 1GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Raidmax 535W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $495.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-23 16:23 EDT-0400


Nice looking (I Think) and nice performance
4.0GHz Stock and it can be overclocked
One of if not the best air cooler
Mobo is cheap but allows Overclocking if needed
Kingston Ram is good, 2x4GB 1600MHz plus XMP
WD is best/Most Reliable HDD Manufacturer plus it's their black series
GPU is not the best, but toms hardware got it listed as best Entry Level Graphics $120 and under
Nice looking case (in my opinion), 2 2.5" Bays, 1 for HDD and another to add a SSD down the road and 2 fans included
PSU is 80+ Bronze, 535W should be enough power (PC Part Picker estimates 340W Needed), plus Blue LED
Good deal on the CM Fans, chose 5 Red LED ones, 1 to go with the red LED Fan included with case for the front, 2 for top of case and 2 to put however you choose.

Edit: Another option may be to replace the 260X for a 250 to use dual graphics unless the 260X would be better as a dedicated card with onboard disabled.

Edited by Lord Letto, 23 August 2014 - 12:33 PM.

[Goose]

… I hear the CrossFire w/ APU thing never pans out, and thus buying an AMD Asomething-whatever with a video card isn't such a hot idea.

But, the current Athlon X4s are the same CPU, but cheaper, and without the IGP, thus sidestepping the issue, and the other issue of giving an APU slow memory.

I can't find a reveiw of that case, but it's brothers seem to be doing well, so you may be onto something. I do think you bought too many extra fans.

I still can't get behind buying a new dual-core for MW:O, but whatever …

[Lord Letto]

took out 3 fans, swapped the A10 for the Athlon X4 and upgraded the R7 260X to a R7 265
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mfpkHx
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....Hx/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($84.73 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver Ceramique 2 Tri-Linear 2.7g Thermal Paste ($3.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($40.38 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston XMP Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($75.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 500GB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R7 265 2GB Video Card ($125.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Raidmax 535W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $499.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-23 21:04 EDT-0400

Edited by Lord Letto, 23 August 2014 - 05:07 PM.

[Goose]

[Emilio Lizardo]

I already have the case, power supply, monitor, input devices, etc. but am running an older machine with a Core 2 Duo E7300 2.66 ghz , 4GB DDR2 6400, and a Geforce 9800 GTX. It runs the game but takes forever to load and does not perform well at all (like stop motion film) on any upper graphics settings.

My budget is also around $500. This is what I'm looking at:

• MSI Z77A-G45 motherboard: $44.25 (ebay, already bought)
  
• Intel Core i5-3470 Ivy Bridge Quad-Core 3.2GHz (3.6GHz Turbo Boost): $189 (Newegg)
  
• EVGA 02G-P4-3651-RX GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card Manufactured Recertified: $114 (Newegg)
  
• G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C10D-16GAO: $146.69 (Newegg)

Please post any recommendations you may have. Hopefully this will be a significant performance upgrade.

[_____]

Most games right now don't benefit from >8GB system memory. The graphics memory is far more important but 2GB is good enough for 1080p gaming. The reason why your graphics are stuttering is because the game is very CPU dependent, far more so than it should be in fact. A correctly optimized game engine should be able to offload a lot of particle processing to the GPU, and this game does not do this. The particle effects are the main performance drag on older machines, so you should see better performance if you turn particle effects to the lowest setting.

Edited by BlackhawkSC, 24 August 2014 - 04:59 PM.

[Lord Letto]

Emilio Lizardo, on 24 August 2014 - 04:22 PM, said:

I already have the case, power supply, monitor, input devices, etc. but am running an older machine with a Core 2 Duo E7300 2.66 ghz , 4GB DDR2 6400, and a Geforce 9800 GTX. It runs the game but takes forever to load and does not perform well at all (like stop motion film) on any upper graphics settings.

My budget is also around $500. This is what I'm looking at:

• MSI Z77A-G45 motherboard: $44.25 (ebay, already bought)
  
• Intel Core i5-3470 Ivy Bridge Quad-Core 3.2GHz (3.6GHz Turbo Boost): $189 (Newegg)
  
• EVGA 02G-P4-3651-RX GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card Manufactured Recertified: $114 (Newegg)
  
• G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C10D-16GAO: $146.69 (Newegg)

Please post any recommendations you may have. Hopefully this will be a significant performance upgrade.

OK, how about this?
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KRvxxr
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....xr/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($224.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver Ceramique 2 Tri-Linear 2.7g Thermal Paste ($3.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($141.30 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R7 260X 1GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $500.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-25 00:47 EDT-0400
3570K is unlocked so it could be overclocked, plus .20GHz faster stock
added the CPU Cooler to help keep it cool, the Hyper 212 EVO the the best budget air cooler, or at least the most referred., thermal paste is same type I used in my comp and seamed to work ok.
Ram is on sale, 2400MHz over 1600MHz
260X is on par or a slight upgrade to the 650Ti

[Goose]

BlackhawkSC, on 24 August 2014 - 04:58 PM, said:

The reason why your graphics are stuttering is because the game is very CPU dependent, far more so than it should be in fact. A correctly optimized game engine should be able to offload a lot of particle processing to the GPU, and this game does not do this. The particle effects are the main performance drag on older machines …

I believe CryTek went out of there way to load up the CPU, as everyone else on the planet ignored this resource. Labeling this "incorrect" is, at best, a religious issue.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Emilio Lizardo, on 24 August 2014 - 04:22 PM, said:

I already have the case, power supply, monitor, input devices, etc. but am running an older machine with a Core 2 Duo E7300 2.66 ghz , 4GB DDR2 6400, and a Geforce 9800 GTX. It runs the game but takes forever to load and does not perform well at all (like stop motion film) on any upper graphics settings.

My budget is also around $500. This is what I'm looking at:

• MSI Z77A-G45 motherboard: $44.25 (ebay, already bought)
  
• Intel Core i5-3470 Ivy Bridge Quad-Core 3.2GHz (3.6GHz Turbo Boost): $189 (Newegg)
  
• EVGA 02G-P4-3651-RX GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card Manufactured Recertified: $114 (Newegg)
  
• G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C10D-16GAO: $146.69 (Newegg)

Please post any recommendations you may have. Hopefully this will be a significant performance upgrade.

Not bad but could be better you don't need 16GB of RAM for gaming, 8 GB of that will be doing nothing and be wasted $, your also spending more on RAM than your GPU, which makes little sense and there is a really really small % return per dollar on anything faster than 1600Mhz RAM

So here.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qbZyHx

[dwwolf]

DV McKenna, on 25 August 2014 - 04:23 AM, said:

Not bad but could be better you don't need 16GB of RAM for gaming, 8 GB of that will be doing nothing and be wasted $, your also spending more on RAM than your GPU, which makes little sense and there is a really really small % return per dollar on anything faster than 1600Mhz RAM

So here.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qbZyHx

This ...yer much better off folding the >8gb,super speed RAM money into a better gfx card or an SSD for the OS + GFX card. The first gives the best gaming performance the latter increases overall system responsiveness ( loading times of OS + some programs ) and some gfx performance

[Goose]

Heh; For sake of reference: http://arstechnica.c...de-august-2014/

[Goose]

Intel Friday

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Redline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $642.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-30 00:11 EDT-0400

[formating fail]Base Total: $716.91
Promo Discounts: -$4.00
Mail-in Rebates: -$70.00
Total: $642.91 [/formating fail]

NewEgg is sick of 7870s … And this example doesn't come with any Molex-to-PCI-E converters, so I spent another $5 on the PSU to meet the twin-6-pin requirement.

Spoiler

…

What? Where you expecting a i7-5960X build?

[Lord Letto]

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/z2Q3NG
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....NG/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker....3NG/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.55 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($16.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Biostar TZ77A ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($73.97 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 500GB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cougar Archon ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($66.50 @ Newegg)
Total: $499.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-04 13:56 EDT-0400

Edited by Lord Letto, 04 September 2014 - 09:59 AM.

[ninjitsu]

Lord Letto, on 04 September 2014 - 09:57 AM, said:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/z2Q3NG
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....NG/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker....3NG/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.55 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($16.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Biostar TZ77A ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($73.97 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 500GB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cougar Archon ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($66.50 @ Newegg)
Total: $499.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-04 13:56 EDT-0400

No GPU?

[Oderint dum Metuant]

ninjitsu, on 04 September 2014 - 10:54 AM, said:

No GPU?

See and i thought it was just me being blind.

[Lord Letto]

Quote

I5-2500K is cheapest Intel Quadcore that's not a Core 2 Quad or I7-950 with no supported MOBO

i5-2500K @$180 or i5-4670K@$220, if your on a budget what would you go for?
also, prices is roughly the same for a Z77 MOBO compared to a Z97
checking cpuboss.com shows the 4670K is better when it comes to Performance and single core performance while the 2500K is the better OCer and better Value.

Edit: hit Edit instead of Quote

Edited by Lord Letto, 05 September 2014 - 06:51 AM.