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[MisterPlanetarian]

NRP, on 02 March 2014 - 08:13 AM, said:

I've heard people say March will bring a new Assault, and I've heard others say March will bring a new Medium. I guess we'll see soon enough. I'm really hoping for a non-humanoid Assault.

People saying its a medium are referring to Bryans statement in the NGNG podcast from the 19th stating that "the release schedule is Light, Medium, Heavy Assault, most of the time."

This was before Russ tweeted that its a new assault chassi on the 27th. Source

Edited by MisterPlanetarian, 02 March 2014 - 08:21 AM.

[MustrumRidcully]

Are we there yet?

[Herodes]

NRP, on 25 February 2014 - 01:36 PM, said:

@Herodes
I agree. However, there is nothing wrong with releasing an Assault that can mount 2 AC/20s if that Assault is particularly vulnerable to another ubiquitous weapon system (e.g. indirect fire weapons). LRMs and air/artillery strikes become the hard counters to this mech.

This way the King Crab pilot has a dilemma - will the enemy have LRMs and/or air/arty? If so, it's gonna be a bad day if he/she doesn't play smart and use teamwork. If the enemy doesn't bring the hard counters or plays stupidly, the KGC gets to be a War Boss.

Likewise, people would be encouraged to not only pack LRMs, but also run dedicated spotters with TAG due to the possibility that one of these monsters might show up in the OpFor. Likewise, people won't waste their air/arty like they tend to do now. They will be encouraged to save these strikes for this 100T gorilla.

I could be wrong, but I see the presence of a mech like the KGC as encouraging role warfare, perhaps even requiring it. And I don't think that's a bad thing at all.

Agreed

Specialized Mechs that offer specific advantages and problems will make the game more interesting and deeper. The KGC is one of those machines.

I can imagine interesting Franken camos ...

[rolly]

Maybe if we post stats on a poll of how many would buy the KGC and crab PGI would integrate it into their implementation schedule? Hard figures on people most likely to buy from the demographic would encourage the company to do so, especially if there is a hint of monetizing it.

[rolly]

MisterPlanetarian, on 02 March 2014 - 08:20 AM, said:

People saying its a medium are referring to Bryans statement in the NGNG podcast from the 19th stating that "the release schedule is Light, Medium, Heavy Assault, most of the time."

This was before Russ tweeted that its a new assault chassi on the 27th. Source

So its not 85 tons. That rules out the Thunder Stallion Sigh.

[MisterPlanetarian]

The King Crab is probably the IS mech with the most attention on the forums bar none except unobtainable stuff like the Marauder, I'm pretty sure PGI has seen it. If they ever add another 100 tonner for IS it would suprise me alot if it was not the KGC honestly.

Edited by MisterPlanetarian, 02 March 2014 - 10:36 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

rolly, on 02 March 2014 - 10:31 AM, said:

So its not 85 tons. That rules out the Thunder Stallion Sigh.

pretty sure being second line clan tech and a quad sorta ruled it out before it was ever considered....

[Haakon Magnusson]

Mechwarrior Mousse, on 26 February 2014 - 06:36 PM, said:

Yup. The 001 Clanbuster is slated for 3052 according to the MUL and is the first non-lower-arm-actuator King Crab according to the TROs. Considering the Clan pack for C-bill release is going to be extending into next year (3052), I'm putting money on PGI releasing the King Crab then with the adjustments made to include at least one of the 000 line in time for the Tukayyid battle.

Ahem.
Old 2750 TRO puts -000 right there without actuators as well...

[Augustus Martelus II]

It would be a good mech to come out when the clans mechs come out...or in the following months.

[Bishop Steiner]

Haakon Magnusson, on 02 March 2014 - 03:45 PM, said:

Ahem.
Old 2750 TRO puts -000 right there without actuators as well...

don't let Strum Wealh here you say that! lol. But very much true. Stupid Record Sheets from FASA back then were HORRIBLY edited, with things like the Rifleman and Jagermech showing full arm actuator sets. Yet because of a pretty obvious editing error (cuz it was often obvious actually reading the source material was too much work for FASA staff back then) they decided to totally muck it up on all future stuff, despite the fluff of the 2750 TRO saying specifically that the whole AC was in the arms.

[rolly]

Bishop Steiner, on 02 March 2014 - 03:33 PM, said:

pretty sure being second line clan tech and a quad sorta ruled it out before it was ever considered....

I know its crazy talk! Its right up there with dreaming about not having a virtual memory crash every odd
evening.

[Strum Wealh]

Bishop Steiner, on 02 March 2014 - 04:01 PM, said:

don't let Strum Wealh here you say that! lol. But very much true. Stupid Record Sheets from FASA back then were HORRIBLY edited, with things like the Rifleman and Jagermech showing full arm actuator sets. Yet because of a pretty obvious editing error (cuz it was often obvious actually reading the source material was too much work for FASA staff back then) they decided to totally muck it up on all future stuff, despite the fluff of the 2750 TRO saying specifically that the whole AC was in the arms.

I already conceded the point of the old record sheet not having the hand actuators or the crit-split issue... though, recency generally trumps primacy (e.g. later/newer materials (such as errata & newer record sheets) are "more canon" than older ones), for precisely the reasons you've listed (e.g. correction of errors, like the Rifleman and JagerMech having full actuator sets).

The question then becomes, "Would PGI use the outdated record sheet, or the current one?"

[TELEFORCE]

I think PGI is willing to bend TROs around in some cases. For example, the BLR-1G is missing a hand actuator on its laser arm, and I thought one of the Dragon variants had a discrepancy with lower arm actuators on the ballistic arm.

[A Man In A Can]

Strum Wealh, on 02 March 2014 - 06:03 PM, said:

I already conceded the point of the old record sheet not having the hand actuators or the crit-split issue... though, recency generally trumps primacy (e.g. later/newer materials (such as errata & newer record sheets) are "more canon" than older ones), for precisely the reasons you've listed (e.g. correction of errors, like the Rifleman and JagerMech having full actuator sets).

The question then becomes, "Would PGI use the outdated record sheet, or the current one?"

Basically this.

[Carnifex125]

a little bit off topic, but my undying curiosity abounds; what would each of you name your KGC's?

I'm already picking out names for my KGC's... Frozen Womb.... Screaming Centipede.... Hungering Atrium.....Uriel's Scythe...

[MisterPlanetarian]

Strum Wealh, on 02 March 2014 - 06:03 PM, said:

The question then becomes, "Would PGI use the outdated record sheet, or the current one?"

No the real question is: Why would PGI let something as solveable as arm mounted AC20's stop them from selling a pupular mech?



KGC's will most likely handle like a stalker, torso twist with locked arms due to no lower arm and hand actuators. Possibly bay door for the arm weapons, a unique trait aside from the catapult.

[Strum Wealh]

Carnifex125, on 02 March 2014 - 11:31 PM, said:

a little bit off topic, but my undying curiosity abounds; what would each of you name your KGC's?

I'm already picking out names for my KGC's... Frozen Womb.... Screaming Centipede.... Hungering Atrium.....Uriel's Scythe...

For me, KGCs would probably be named after crustacean-type kaiju - specifically: Ebirah & Ganimes from the Godzilla franchise, and Onibaba from Pacific Rim.

For me, CRBs would probably be named after crustacean-type zoanoids from the Guyver franchise - specifically: Zerbebuth, Delcasse, and Granza.

Edited by Strum Wealh, 03 March 2014 - 09:19 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

MisterPlanetarian, on 03 March 2014 - 07:57 AM, said:

No the real question is: Why would PGI let something as solveable as arm mounted AC20's stop them from selling a pupular mech?



KGC's will most likely handle like a stalker, torso twist with locked arms due to no lower arm and hand actuators. Possibly bay door for the arm weapons, a unique trait aside from the catapult.

exactly how I have promoted it from the get go. Give the torso twist the same as lets say a STK-H or so, and the arm reflex of the VTR. Grace it with massive arms and ST, and a tiny CT so you have to pull it apart like a succulent King Crab at the buffet to take it down, and I feel it would be well balanced for it's potential hardpoints.

Strum Wealh, on 03 March 2014 - 08:19 AM, said:

For me, KGCs would probably be named after crustacean-type kaiju - specifically: Ebirah & Ganimes from the Godzilla franchise, and Onibaba from Pacific Rim.

For me, CRBs would probably be named after crustacean-type zoanoids from the Guyver franchise - specifically: Zerbebuth, Delcasse, and Granza.

I like!

[Carnifex125]

Strum Wealh, on 03 March 2014 - 08:19 AM, said:

For me, KGCs would probably be named after crustacean-type kaiju - specifically: Ebirah & Ganimes from the Godzilla franchise, and Onibaba from Pacific Rim.

For me, CRBs would probably be named after crustacean-type zoanoids from the Guyver franchise - specifically: Zerbebuth, Delcasse, and Granza.

ahh, very fitting. Onibaba is my favorite of all the kaiju

Edited by Carnifex125, 03 March 2014 - 11:45 AM.

[Carnifex125]

bad news guys, looks like its not the KCG

https://mobile.twitt...me=russ_bullock

I guess I wont be buying new mechs for awhile :/