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[Flying Judgement]

do you think its the same quality like the Centurion, Dragon or the Firestarter was ?
For me it looks like just a La Shadow Taro

Not a Banshee

i dont mind wait 3 mount and get a more polished looking mech

[Carrioncrows]

I am a staunch supporter of this game.

I give it money, I give it time, and I put in the effort to make it better.

I don't just point out problems, I try and offer solutions.

I say all that simply to denote what I am going to say next. "It is a train wreck of a travesty" No, Iconic sunglasses? That's like taking the ears off a catapult or making the Madcat into a humanoid. Took away what was special and churned out regurgitated nonsense.

This mech is ugly as sin. And not even a bad ass ugly, just a boxy, blither mess. I know you guys are working on clan mechs but good gravy man, could they at least put in a "Little" effort?

I am just very disappointed.

My Solution is simple. Take it back to the drawing board. (like that's a realistic option)

Edited by Carrioncrows, 06 March 2014 - 12:56 AM.

[Solis Obscuri]

Carrioncrows, on 06 March 2014 - 12:55 AM, said:

This mech is ugly as sin. And not even a bad ass ugly, just a boxy, blither mess.

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I mean, you were really expected a rounded form or something? It's not an Emperor...

[GalaxyBluestar]

i really hoped it was going to look like the mech in the background here


ho hum, at least we got that madcat... except the uglier "1piece" mw4 legs are being adapted... and square arms... and we don't know what the 3d model will be.

oh hell what have i done with my train of thought!!!

[Flying Judgement]

thats more looks like a banshee

here is the centurion


Yes after all the awesome remakes i was expecting at least as much as the picture shown by GalaxyBluestar

[Flying Judgement]

not a shadowhawk with a kintaro head like i did in paint.

[Ryoken]

Simply 3 things:

1)Rework Head Shape for that canine/feline/demon-like feel with fangs and overbite instead of dull looking underbite
2)Make it more lanky, the actual mwo Banshee is as wide as an Atlas.
3)Make a human 5-finger hand or some 3-5-finger claw.

http://mwomercs.com/...or-the-banshee/
http://www.nogutsnog...g14339#msg14339

[Alex Warden]

well they are using "preproduced"assets for mechs for quite a while now and simply modify them a bit for new mechs, you can clearly see them in the banshee... i guess that simply accelerates production time, which is a good thing imho...

on the other hand it leads to less "ambitious" designs... at least it looks better than the TRO drawings

i´m just happy to have a new assault in the upper tiers and waiting for the CB versions now...

[Flying Judgement]

i was expecting something like this
a really cool remake

[Ryoken]

Flying Judgement, on 06 March 2014 - 01:59 AM, said:

Yes after all the awesome remakes i was expecting at least as much as the picture shown by GalaxyBluestar

Erm.. you mean the one with the Timberwolf in the foreground? To me this looks a lot like the actual mwo Banshee we got. It is wide is has underbite and that ducked-in head???

[NextGame]

they least they could have done was give it a distinctive head instead of basically copy pasting the kintaro

[Flying Judgement]

why the laser is in the mouth ? not on the forehead?

[Ryoken]

Flying Judgement, on 06 March 2014 - 02:08 AM, said:

i was expecting something like this
a really cool remake

^ All way to wide, the lowest looks allready like an Atlas. The right IWM Miniature is that 600year old boxy primitive tech model of the Banshee prototype. And the left one does not look like a Banshee at all. So no all those three do not look like a 3050 Banshee to me.



Those are the references!

Edited by Ryoken, 06 March 2014 - 02:20 AM.

[Flying Judgement]

at least not just copy paste the kintaros head
non of your pictures have even similar head like the one we got

whats the point to have 20 more mech when all going to look like the ones we have now ?

Yes you can driveing a Grasshopper or a BlackKnight what will have a centurion body and a victors head.
umm great

[Ryoken]

Flying Judgement, on 06 March 2014 - 02:11 AM, said:

why the laser is in the mouth ? not on the forehead?

Laser is on the forehead on the non hero variants.

Flying Judgement, on 06 March 2014 - 02:24 AM, said:

at least not just copy paste the kintaros head
non of your pictures have even similar head like the one we got

Yes, I think the head shape is the main point of peoples concern.

Edited by Ryoken, 06 March 2014 - 02:32 AM.

[xengk]

I think the LM looks alright, the head is a composite of the 1E and 11X.


The forehead and visor is from 11X, but slopped back to look more serpentine and less gorilla like, to fit with the Aztec theme.
While the mouth and chin is from the 1E, it even retain the 4 fangs from the design but the upper fangs have been shift to the side to look like a piranha, to give a sense of feral.
The 1E's gaping mouth looks like hobo teeth.

Douchy popped collars at the cheek have been removed.

"Third Eye Laser" have been turn into "Tiki God Flame Mouth".

[Ryoken]

Problem is at least the 1E variant is a bulky prototype not resembling the actual Banshee series 3025/3050.

And both the 1E and the 11X variant pictures are very late artworks that came with the decline of Battletech Artwork from beeing serious looking designs (mainly by the artist Loose) and turning into the ugly comic-like look which started around TRO3067 and that culminated in the massive uglyness of the Dark Age mechs!

Those fugly looks are a good portion of why the Dark Ages are declined by most Battletech/Mechwarrior fans. The Dark Age Designs addressed children with their toy-like looks and therefore disgust most of the more mature military fanboys that the Battletech/Mechwarrior fans are. MWO up to now did good to address the latter as they have more money and more attention span.

Edited by Ryoken, 06 March 2014 - 03:52 AM.

[ssm]

Ryoken, on 06 March 2014 - 03:51 AM, said:

Problem is at least the 1E variant is a bulky prototype not resembling the actual Banshee series 3025/3050.

And both the 1E and the 11X variant pictures are very late artworks that came with the decline of Battletech Artwork from beeing serious looking designs (mainly by the artist Loose) and turning into the ugly comic-like look which started around TRO3067 and that culminated in the massive uglyness of the Dark Age mechs!

Those fugly looks are a good portion of why the Dark Ages are declined by most Battletech/Mechwarrior fans. The Dark Age Designs addressed children with their toy-like looks and therefore disgust most of the more mature military fanboys that the Battletech/Mechwarrior fans are. MWO up to now did good to address the latter as they have more money and more attention span.

I agree about Dark Age minis being ugly and comic-like, but it's the first time since we got MWO I've heard somebody call Loose's designs "serious"

I agree that they're way better than DA ones, but compared to MWO they are just goofy, 80s style-terribad.

[Ryoken]

Just compare these:

with these:


And then tell me - which one look like jokes - and which ones could actually be working war machines?

Edited by Ryoken, 06 March 2014 - 04:53 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Flying Judgement, on 05 March 2014 - 11:16 PM, said:

do you think its the same quality like the Centurion, Dragon or the Firestarter was ?
For me it looks like just a La Shadow Taro

Not a Banshee

i dont mind wait 3 mount and get a more polished looking mech

I'd settle for taller, skinnier and with a proper head

Solis Obscuri, on 06 March 2014 - 01:04 AM, said:

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I mean, you were really expected a rounded form or something? It's not an Emperor...

Take the actual elements that make the design, and improve. Not make it into Al Bundy.