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[Mechwarrior940794]

MadSapper1234, on 19 March 2014 - 01:07 PM, said:

Another challenge where you need a poopsock to compete? Really? The people who won last time played >100 matches in a weekend in order to get their 10 best. How is this a measurement of skill?

Sounds like a measurement of bladder control.

I played 30 games top on my hunchback got tons of breaks throughout the weekend and was still able to compete in the light bracket.

You don't need a poopsock to compete.

[Darth Futuza]

Jody Von Jedi, on 19 March 2014 - 04:52 AM, said:

Darth,

I looked at your profile and you're not showing as part of a faction. Make sure you join Lone Wolf before you opt in. I don't know if the stats reset messed some people up or not, but I noticed a lot of people are not associated with a faction now.

Jody

Odd. You appear to be right. Thanks for the tip.

[NocturnalBeast]

Opted in for House Marik!

[Roadbeer]

Deathlike, on 18 March 2014 - 06:30 PM, said:

I'm starting to wonder why this isn't even a premade+solo event, but just solo. It makes zero sense to me.

Given the information in the new VLOG where private matches are without rewards of any kind, it's obvious that PGI wants everyone to be a solo player.

Duh

[NRP]

I will laugh if Lone Wolfs win it in a landslide.

Because we are legion. Maybe?

(Lone Wolf is a faction, right? Their picture is on PGI's tournament marketing materials after all)

Edited by NRP, 19 March 2014 - 02:08 PM.

[Roadbeer]

NRP, on 19 March 2014 - 02:07 PM, said:

Lone Wolf is a faction, right?

The way PGI keeps treating groups, soon it will be the only faction.

[Sandpit]

Join a faction and drop with teammat..... erm drop with whoever we randomly put you into a team with and hope they're good enough to help you win the game! SMH

Anyhow, tourney looks cool but not much point in advertising this game as any kind of "team" based game. It's "randomly drop with strangers and don't join a unit because you'll actually do better than rambos and joe derps" game

[Squarefox]

Glory to the FRR!

[Novakaine]

Is it 3 4man groups of the same faction?
Or is it 12 man random pug drop as usual?
I aint fightin with no stinky Liao's or Snakes!

[NocturnalBeast]

I challenge people to use 3051 era faction appropriate mechs for this.

[CrashieJ]

It's going to be a three way toss up between

Steiner
Davion
Mercs

due to the sheer amount of fanboyisim.

screw it, I'm a Steiner now

[Abivard]

A solo only Faction tournament, PGI really does hate team players.

[madmac451]

xian 1666 what the challange really is is pgi getting the data to support the statement that most people play from the solo que so i will not play as a solo player anymore and on top of that pgi still owes me a snowglobe that i got a crapy charlie brown christmas tree instead of what the wording of the challange post not the bate and switch of the challange picture xmas tree wrote beside a snowglobe with a christmastree in it

[o0Marduk0o]

Deathlike, on 18 March 2014 - 06:30 PM, said:

I'm starting to wonder why this isn't even a premade+solo event, but just solo. It makes zero sense to me.

Because you win more likely with a premade and therefore will have better stats than someone solo.

[Aym]

Ed Steele, on 19 March 2014 - 03:05 PM, said:

I challenge people to use 3051 era faction appropriate mechs for this.

PGI abandoned the 1-to-1 timeline years ago...

[NocturnalBeast]

gavilatius, on 19 March 2014 - 03:06 PM, said:

It's going to be a three way toss up between

Steiner
Davion
Mercs

due to the sheer amount of fanboyisim.

screw it, I'm a Steiner now

Wishful thinking.

Aym, on 19 March 2014 - 03:57 PM, said:

PGI abandoned the 1-to-1 timeline years ago...

Sad, but true.

[Sound Reason]

I understand this is being positioned as a "step in the right direction" for PGI towards community warfare implementation.

However, running an event with "only solo drops count" as a criteria for a faction tournament is such a ridiculously conflicted premise. It undermines the whole idea of player built communities working towards common objectives. If pilots want to drop solo, that is their prerogative, but PGI should not be deliberately discouraging groups from playing together when that is ultimately the intended implementation of the game system. Or have I missed something from the developers expressly stating they want to phase out support for grouped drops due to their "OP" nature?

Ultimately, communication and strategy are the cornerstones of effective play. This is obviously complemented by skill, but I'd say good information + communication trumps skill any day (and more power to any group that shows up with skill, communication, and a plan). The "solo only" caveat precludes the possibility of organized players from operating in units as they have become accustomed, and really comes across as a slap in the face to those who have taken the time to work on building player communities with whom we enjoy dropping and training.

I'm very disappointed in the implementation of this tournament, and I want to make sure PGI is aware. This is contrary to the promise of community warfare as it was outlined and described from embryonic pre-release stages, and as an individual who has contributed significant funding to the ongoing development of this title (well more than I've ever paid for a retail AAA title), I'm not sure who PGI is pandering to, but this almost feels like a betrayal of what I invested in in the first place.

Edited by Sound Reason, 20 March 2014 - 07:26 AM.

[A Man In A Can]

Opted in for the Gazelle. Glad mercs and lone wolves are allowed to participate as well.

[Deathlike]

Just for a moment, imagine "Community Warfare". Yes, that thing people keep talking about.

If a tourney is constructed in the way it is suggested, there's a pretty "high chance" that "factions" will be fighting "amongst themselves" if we're not considering the Lone Wolves and the Mercs. If the point of the challenge is to show "faction pride", they should be fighting together (with some MM assistance, but that may make the MM's job more difficult). If it was "who is the best Liao player", then there should be a "Liao tourney", but what this generally amounts to is one giant solo tourney, and that you happen to be part of that one faction when you do it.

I'm not saying you can't "fight amongst your own" to determine the best, but it's not really accomplishing anything outside of being just that... a Solaris tourney among the contenders, and not the factions.

[GalaxyBluestar]

i can understand the devils advocate and the team groupies dissapointment on this. however i'm confident that pgi just want to gather metrics on how CW can be structured and the best way to get as much to tally up as possible is individual head counting as faction players are defirentiated from merc corp group players... in pgi's eyes.

having said that i'm beggining to wonder whether they simply can't / don't have the means to track group performances for a tally. even if they split the rewards 2 way 3 way or 4 way, it would be really nice to clarify why tournaments can't have a catagory of it's own for the groupies, maybe the launch modual interface will make this possible. would be nice to see stieners have the best 4man, davions have the best 3 man etc etc. an explanation would be great.