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#1221 FatYak

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 08:17 PM

View PostTanar, on 31 August 2014 - 10:31 AM, said:


i'm guiltiy of a few FF incidents when i'm in my shorter mechs from face tanking. get caught in the middle of the firefight. turn around and am face to face with something bigger but am too close to it to see a triangle or colored box so i fire and run. then as i get some distance i see the one i shot is blue... oops...

Thats ok, not what i was referring to though =D

The dumbass MWO recipe for facetanking

1 Walk to edge of caldera in caustic valley
2 Peek over edge
3 Receive a face full of autocannon and laser fire
4 Backup
5 Wait 4 seconds
6 Go back to step 2 and repeat steps 2 through 5 until dead
7 Disconnect ASAP
8 Drop into someone elses match, repeat procedure and die quickly so they are outnumbered

Edited by FatYak, 31 August 2014 - 08:17 PM.


#1222 CN9 ACE PILOT

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 07:40 AM

View PostFatYak, on 31 August 2014 - 08:17 PM, said:

Thats ok, not what i was referring to though =D

The dumbass MWO recipe for facetanking

1 Walk to edge of caldera in caustic valley
2 Peek over edge
3 Receive a face full of autocannon and laser fire
4 Backup
5 Wait 4 seconds
6 Go back to step 2 and repeat steps 2 through 5 until dead
7 Disconnect ASAP
8 Drop into someone elses match, repeat procedure and die quickly so they are outnumbered


Or the one that dies at step 2 after getting narc'd, and starts screaming in all chat that the game is bs and lrm's are broken.

#1223 Jon Gotham

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 01:57 PM

View PostKjudoon, on 30 August 2014 - 12:23 PM, said:

There's a new psychosis growing. The idea that only Lone Wolves should be allowed in the solo queue as if it is their own little sandbox and anyone else showing up in there with tags next to their name is as welcome as the cat crapping in the sandbox.

Teamkills and attacks on those with group tags has spiked. PGI better be quick on banning these nutjobs.

And may the Lord help anyone who accidentally or deliberately drops in a solo queue match with a teammate on either side. Let the butthurt floowwwwwwwww....

The one thing that has driven me nuts about this is the fact it was the solo artist s who REFUSED to group up that helped cause the group queue.
People that cried and whined about people that logged onto a ts server and said "hi" to other people....then there's those that want voip putting in so they can talk to their team mates...which they could have done if they had logged onto a ts server and said "hi" to some other people....
Instead PGI focuses on the solo artists and panders to their desires. Now, we don't have a casual option for grouping. The group queue has turned into 110% effort if you want to win, because I see meta and noobstrike spam all night long now..
So it's either solo drop or meta competitive drop with no middle ground....
My enjoyment of the game has severely dropped, you must have noticed I log in much less these days?

Constantly pandering to solo only players is not a good direction for a team based game....

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 03:18 PM

Yep miss the small group with pugs. I myself only pug. Just because. Once in awhile my group of pugs would match up with meta 12 man group. 5 min later that fight is behind me off to the next. But on the other hand it was just as likely that I would be grouped with 6 to 10 meta guys against the pug team or my favorite when I was grouped with 4 to 6 team players and we faced off against 4 to 8 team players with the rest pugs ie wild cards. Those matches were legendary. Now if I as a solo player could opt into the group query that would be great. Pugs filling in the holes in 8 or 10 man teams.

The greatest swordsman does not fear the second best swordsman, he fears the unknown amateur, for he has no idea how he will fight.

Edited by loopala, 01 September 2014 - 03:20 PM.


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Posted 01 September 2014 - 03:25 PM

View PostKjudoon, on 30 August 2014 - 12:23 PM, said:

There's a new psychosis growing. The idea that only Lone Wolves should be allowed in the solo queue as if it is their own little sandbox and anyone else showing up in there with tags next to their name is as welcome as the cat crapping in the sandbox.

Teamkills and attacks on those with group tags has spiked. PGI better be quick on banning these nutjobs.

And may the Lord help anyone who accidentally or deliberately drops in a solo queue match with a teammate on either side. Let the butthurt floowwwwwwwww....


I like to try and team up with someone in a faction....assuming they actually know what they are doing...unlike your humble servant.

#1226 Jon Gotham

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 06:12 PM

View Postloopala, on 01 September 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

Yep miss the small group with pugs. I myself only pug. Just because. Once in awhile my group of pugs would match up with meta 12 man group. 5 min later that fight is behind me off to the next. But on the other hand it was just as likely that I would be grouped with 6 to 10 meta guys against the pug team or my favorite when I was grouped with 4 to 6 team players and we faced off against 4 to 8 team players with the rest pugs ie wild cards. Those matches were legendary. Now if I as a solo player could opt into the group query that would be great. Pugs filling in the holes in 8 or 10 man teams.

The greatest swordsman does not fear the second best swordsman, he fears the unknown amateur, for he has no idea how he will fight.

Sadly my friend, I doubt you'd be wanted to fill the gaps in.
What happens quite often is that one team has at least an 8 man with another 4 man or two 2 mans. The first teams is made up of say a 4 man, x2 3 mans and a 2 man. Now ASSUMING all are on ts that's 4 sets of TS chatter....compared to 2 on the other team, with one of them groups being 2/3 of the team.......
You quite often end up vs bigger teams with cruel stomps happening often. At least the pugs are working together in their small groups, having solos in there would dilute effectiveness even further vs the bigger group....it's utterly stupid how this has ended up....all because a lot of people refused to join groups/units and whined about it.
I used to play solo before group queue and never had an issue facing a 4 man. In group queue now the effect is magnified.....casual chatter gone. Relaxed level of play..gone.
Focus 100% or lose.
Great eh?

#1227 Night Fury76

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 06:31 PM

There is just not enough players in total to split things any further than 2 cues over a 24 hour time frame.
And with the way things are going it only looks to be getting smaller.
Still waiting for pings from Aust to drop before I can play again.
I should IF?

Till then Cheers

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 06:35 PM

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ELO HELL has been taken to new depths tonight. Hey bitey fish games YOU COULDNT BALANCE YOUR WAY OUT OF A PAPER BAG!

4x 12-0 rolls..... WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FAAK AM I DOING IN THIS ELO BRACKET? This constant moronic attemps at making an ELO system have enraged me to this....... Couldnt even possibly be able to enjoy this piece of steaming tuurd ,when all your pathetic attemps at balance are about cancelling my ability to work with a team through sheer "bad team" matchmaking?


And to the clueless white knights coming.......I do play groups and also solo drop......use comms and actively try to assist/direct/instruct or offer a strategy to pugs...........now piss off.......admit this is the coding work of a drunk armadillo............and sleep one night living the truth.

Edited by Smokeyjedi, 01 September 2014 - 06:43 PM.


#1229 Kjudoon

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 06:59 PM

...drunk Armadillo.... Bwaaaaahahahahahahahahaaa!!!!

#1230 White Bear 84

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 07:00 PM

:ph34r: LATENCY ISSUES WITH THE NEW SERVER :ph34r:

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 07:55 PM

Ok I got a whine I don't know if this has been said before, so here goes.

Was in a battle in alpine doing the skirmish thing and lo and behold I was the last one standing on my team. I am in my locust-1E and I take a quick stock of the situation: locust yellow across the board with the left leg little orange. Red team: Raven-4x no ct orange legs. Warhawk no back armor with the ct deep yellow/orange. Direwolf yellow across the board left leg internal orange (wonder who did that? =)). So I came up with a plan to lead the raven from the slugs kill him, swing round alpha the warhawk in the back and finish legging the direwolf and hopefully to hump his other leg till it is gone. Everything was going to plan when some Richard Headly who has already died starts shouting out my position to give the slugs a heads up on to where to go and make the short cuts. Well needless to say the raven buys it part 1 down, and the warhawk and direwolf both fire large lasers and down I go(sigh).
Now I have a code of ethics while playing.
1 never say gg or ggclose on a roll on the other team.
2 Try to give helpful advice to new players who ask for it.
3 Never use foul language in the chats.
4 Never give out a persons location who is still playing even if he is the last man standing you never know what he has up his sleeve.
I could go on bout this but enough of my whining =)
-Nacht

#1232 White Bear 84

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 09:38 PM

View PostNachthund, on 01 September 2014 - 07:55 PM, said:

Everything was going to plan when some Richard Headly who has already died starts shouting out my position to give the slugs a heads up on to where to go and make the short cuts


I like to resolve this by using MSI to capture screen shots and reporting the players to the devs. Who knows if it achieves anything, but it certainly feels good. :wub:

Helps deal with team killers a lot too.

Edited by White Bear 84, 01 September 2014 - 10:27 PM.


#1233 IraqiWalker

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Posted 01 September 2014 - 09:48 PM

View PostNachthund, on 01 September 2014 - 07:55 PM, said:

Ok I got a whine I don't know if this has been said before, so here goes.

Was in a battle in alpine doing the skirmish thing and lo and behold I was the last one standing on my team. I am in my locust-1E and I take a quick stock of the situation: locust yellow across the board with the left leg little orange. Red team: Raven-4x no ct orange legs. Warhawk no back armor with the ct deep yellow/orange. Direwolf yellow across the board left leg internal orange (wonder who did that? =)). So I came up with a plan to lead the raven from the slugs kill him, swing round alpha the warhawk in the back and finish legging the direwolf and hopefully to hump his other leg till it is gone. Everything was going to plan when some Richard Headly who has already died starts shouting out my position to give the slugs a heads up on to where to go and make the short cuts. Well needless to say the raven buys it part 1 down, and the warhawk and direwolf both fire large lasers and down I go(sigh).
Now I have a code of ethics while playing.
1 never say gg or ggclose on a roll on the other team.
2 Try to give helpful advice to new players who ask for it.
3 Never use foul language in the chats.
4 Never give out a persons location who is still playing even if he is the last man standing you never know what he has up his sleeve.
I could go on bout this but enough of my whining =)
-Nacht


1- Don't put the names of players that do something douchy like that in the forums. It's a violation of the code of conduct (name and shame)

2- in those situations, e-mail support@mwomercs.com with the time the match ended (make sure to include date and time zone) what map it happened on, and the username of the offending player. Along with any screen caps you have.

View PostWhite Bear 84, on 01 September 2014 - 09:38 PM, said:


I like to resolve this by using MSI to capture screen shots and reporting the players to the devs. Who knows if it achieves anything, but it certainly feels good. :wub:

It does actually help. Plenty of players have been punished/warned/banned.

#1234 Jon Gotham

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Posted 02 September 2014 - 01:42 AM

View PostIraqiWalker, on 01 September 2014 - 09:48 PM, said:


It does actually help. Plenty of players have been punished/warned/banned.


It does?!
I've reported people for doing some pretty shocking things, yet next day I bump into them in a match....

#1235 IraqiWalker

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Posted 02 September 2014 - 02:18 AM

View Postkamiko kross, on 02 September 2014 - 01:42 AM, said:


It does?!
I've reported people for doing some pretty shocking things, yet next day I bump into them in a match....


Yeah, it's just never dealt with instantly, and almost no action results in an immediate ban easily. In most cases people receive warnings, or account suspensions. Very few, downright messed up players and actions result in a permanent account ban.

Also, don't forget that if a player acts like a douche for a while, doesn't mean they are a douche forever. It could be that after the warning they straightened their act, and repented. Leading to you running into them several weeks later.

Repeated reports, over a period of time will result in a perma ban. However, as stated earlier, the punishment isn't always delivered immediately, and sometimes not to the severity people would like. It's quite possible that this player has been a great sportsman for the longest time, but this last act of stupidity caused them to snap, and lose their mind temporarily. Lord knows I've had games where if I had typed what I was thinking, or even yelling at my monitor, I would have probably had a suspension against me by now.

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Posted 02 September 2014 - 05:54 AM

ok maybe i don't want to play with groups :wacko:

i just want to play

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Posted 02 September 2014 - 07:11 AM

ok... yesterday... enemy Timber Wolf spotted... + 5 known lrm spammers (that fired at my flanking quickdraw permanently...)
Teammate in a Atlas.... scared because of that single timber wolf .... telling me *you seen that timber wolf? i have no chance in my atlas against it....* + 5 more teammates behind the atlas... WHILE I GET SHOT TO HELL FROM 5 (!) LRM BOATS THEY ARE SCARED FROM ONE SINGLE TIMBERWOLF!

what sort of coward are playing assaults these days? complete crap loadouts? man i fight timberwolves all time in any fkin mech so what the hell is wrong with facing it with a atlas?!? is a banshee so much better than a atlas if i can kill timberwolves with the banshee?!?

-.- get some fkin balls if you play assaults! i ***** 2 kitfoxes and a nova solo in my banshee at terra therma, and that banshee has nothing but lasers!

PUG-life can be so damn hard if you're teammates are completely fail -.-

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Posted 02 September 2014 - 07:50 AM

View PostCN9 ACE PILOT, on 01 September 2014 - 07:40 AM, said:

Or the one that dies at step 2 after getting narc'd, and starts screaming in all chat that the game is bs and lrm's are broken.
Pretty sure that's a stab at me

LRMS are BS and the indirect fire mechanic is broken

But if your narced your narced, i dont have an issue with that

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Posted 02 September 2014 - 09:53 AM

When pugs refuse to push on tera therma, I go enjoy a nice hot lava bath.

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Posted 02 September 2014 - 11:05 AM

my gripe is this

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i think the screenshot says it all





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