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#1301 Podex

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 11:48 AM

UNCLEAN!! UNCLEAN!!!

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 03:08 PM

I hate know-it-all in pugs.. In conquest, with a pug, the best strategy is to play the first 5 minutes like a skirmish capping together unless you are a fast light.

Me: "Form up in to a death-ball and kill stuff don't worry about capping unless you are in a light...<more instructions>"

Horribad player: "It will never work! We will loose! They will out cap us!"

We loose...

Horribad player "See I told you"
Me: "Your lance of 2 assaults and 2 heavies only did 30 damage total...think that had something to do with it?"
Horribad player "Your bad strategy got us killed"
Me: "But you didn't even do what I said! We didn't loose from caps they killed us all!"
Horribad Player: "You are a noob and suck!"
Me: "But I did 600 damage in a light which is more than everyone else on our team combined and I have the only kill!"
Horribad Player: "learn to play"
Me: "I gotta find a 12-man to drop with pug life is rotting my soul"

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 04:38 PM

View Postnehebkau, on 14 September 2014 - 03:08 PM, said:

I hate know-it-all in pugs.. In conquest, with a pug, the best strategy is to play the first 5 minutes like a skirmish capping together unless you are a fast light.

Me: "Form up in to a death-ball and kill stuff don't worry about capping unless you are in a light...<more instructions>"

Horribad player: "It will never work! We will loose! They will out cap us!"

We loose...

Horribad player "See I told you"
Me: "Your lance of 2 assaults and 2 heavies only did 30 damage total...think that had something to do with it?"
Horribad player "Your bad strategy got us killed"
Me: "But you didn't even do what I said! We didn't loose from caps they killed us all!"
Horribad Player: "You are a noob and suck!"
Me: "But I did 600 damage in a light which is more than everyone else on our team combined and I have the only kill!"
Horribad Player: "learn to play"
Me: "I gotta find a 12-man to drop with pug life is rotting my soul"


Been there, done that, have the tee shirt, commemorative mug, a 2 hour slide show, membership card and duty commendations.

It's why I joined the Seraphim. The Pug Life can rot your soul.

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 04:47 PM

View PostKjudoon, on 14 September 2014 - 04:38 PM, said:


Been there, done that, have the tee shirt, commemorative mug, a 2 hour slide show, membership card and duty commendations.

It's why I joined the Seraphim. The Pug Life can rot your soul.


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Some of us already lost our soul along the way, leaving nothing left to rot.

For the whine.

Changing my mind over Artemis and taking it off, i could of bought another copy of the variant and kept one with it.

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 05:03 PM

View Postnehebkau, on 14 September 2014 - 03:08 PM, said:

Me: "Form up in to a death-ball and kill stuff don't worry about capping unless you are in a light...<more instructions>"

Horribad player: "It will never work! We will loose! They will out cap us!"


Dismal of the inexperienced strategies, 3 lances charging off to the conquest caps that the devs pointed them at actually can win... when the other team deathballs but is too cautious to engage 12v4 fast enough and lacks the awareness to intercept the remaining lances. :wacko:

Sharp contrast to experienced 12-mans ignoring all caps and hitting straight to skirmish. :mellow:

Edited by draiocht, 14 September 2014 - 05:04 PM.


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Posted 14 September 2014 - 05:11 PM

Assaults mechs running only-LRM builds.

The whole team running straight into the distance leaving the slow mechs to die.

Center rushes in Terra Therma.

People who do not even consider anything but attacking as an option in any situation.

#1307 Kjudoon

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 05:28 PM

View PostHollowPoint, on 14 September 2014 - 05:11 PM, said:

Assaults mechs running only-LRM builds.

The whole team running straight into the distance leaving the slow mechs to die.

Center rushes in Terra Therma.

People who do not even consider anything but attacking as an option in any situation.

There is only one mech who should run all LRMs and that's the CPLT 1A but even then, they should probably have one SRM launcher in lieu of an LRM for close range defense. Every other mech should have at least ONE backup weapon. Archers carried short swords, dirks or daggers, so should your LRMboat.

Edited by Kjudoon, 14 September 2014 - 05:29 PM.


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Posted 15 September 2014 - 05:57 AM

dying from an ammo explosion in a torso that does not have ammo stacked in it

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Posted 15 September 2014 - 06:56 AM

View PostKjudoon, on 14 September 2014 - 05:28 PM, said:

There is only one mech who should run all LRMs and that's the CPLT 1A but even then, they should probably have one SRM launcher in lieu of an LRM for close range defense. Every other mech should have at least ONE backup weapon. Archers carried short swords, dirks or daggers, so should your LRMboat.


And the Battletech equivalent of the medieval archer, the ARC-2R Archer carried 4 (count 'em, four, although two off them pointed to the rear in TT) Medium Lasers for defense when those Doombud (I just love that name :) ) LRM/20s weren't an appropriate choice. So, yep, keep _some_ weight for short range weaponry at least (and make it not depend on Ammo, preferably).

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Posted 15 September 2014 - 07:14 AM

Droping in a PUG match with everyone but me as a LRM boat's that are whining, screaming, trash talking and crying that nobody holds locks and whole enemy team is under ECM cover and shreds them to bits, while they try to outrun them to 180m distance to dumb fire them LRM's.... #neverforget

#1311 IraqiWalker

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Posted 15 September 2014 - 09:21 AM

View PostFatYak, on 15 September 2014 - 05:57 AM, said:

dying from an ammo explosion in a torso that does not have ammo stacked in it

Gauss Rifle?

#1312 xeromynd

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Posted 15 September 2014 - 09:40 AM

View PostIraqiWalker, on 15 September 2014 - 09:21 AM, said:

Gauss Rifle?


Ammo explosion in an arm attached to said torso will also cause damage (and death) to adjacent components. If you had an XL, then there's the reason.

#1313 nehebkau

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Posted 15 September 2014 - 11:52 AM

All this idocy about a council and ECM…

We all know that we need ECM in some matches because of the stupid target-sharing LRM mechanic. 11 people can fire on a single target that only the 12 th player can see. We all know that the only people who hate ECM are those who like to hide behind hills and fire LRMs because they either can’t aim regular weapons are too afraid to leave cover. The same people who don’t realize that shooting the LEGS of light mechs is the way to kill them and who don’t understand that you can still shoot an enemy even if they don’t have a red triangle over their heads.

Tell ya what, lets get rid of ECM! Lets get rid of LRMs and SSRMs and target-sharing! Problem solved now can we get back to killing each other in a civilized way?

So much bull-pucky because people want to be able to shoot you without you being able to shoot them back!

#1314 IraqiWalker

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Posted 15 September 2014 - 12:19 PM

View Postnehebkau, on 15 September 2014 - 11:52 AM, said:

All this idocy about a council and ECM…

We all know that we need ECM in some matches because of the stupid target-sharing LRM mechanic. 11 people can fire on a single target that only the 12 th player can see. We all know that the only people who hate ECM are those who like to hide behind hills and fire LRMs because they either can’t aim regular weapons are too afraid to leave cover. The same people who don’t realize that shooting the LEGS of light mechs is the way to kill them and who don’t understand that you can still shoot an enemy even if they don’t have a red triangle over their heads.

Tell ya what, lets get rid of ECM! Lets get rid of LRMs and SSRMs and target-sharing! Problem solved now can we get back to killing each other in a civilized way?

So much bull-pucky because people want to be able to shoot you without you being able to shoot them back!


Perhaps you should mention this to the people that will end up on the council. At least the first part. Also, to be honest, ECM was never supposed to do what it's doing right now. So people are justified in asking for a revision of it. I think it's kinda fine, needs some tweaking though.

In addition, I'm willing to wager that plenty of people hate ECM without being LRM players (They usually have TAG, so they get their own locks with little issue)



Daily Whine: All of these awesome appreciation gifts, why can't I have them NOW!!!! I want my KING CRAB

Edited by IraqiWalker, 15 September 2014 - 12:19 PM.


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Posted 15 September 2014 - 01:51 PM

going over to help someone in a 1v1 or 2v2- just don't do it. they will turn tail and leave you hanging 99% of the time. practically everytime i reposition myself to help somone finish an enemy off i get killed while the other guy survives because he ditched me.

also supporting the direwhales and atlases- escort them to the brawl so no lights can kill them off before they get there and then assist them on their target with my short range brawler mediums? nope they're all LRM boats and stay in the back forever til i ether have to leave them to get into the fight (which they then complain about) or stay with them and put us down 12-10 in the actual fight and we usually lose.

following the plan/warnings also works here too- "hey everyone they're at <location> trying to flank us" i run over from the other side of the map to help intercept...and i'm the first one there other than the now dead scout and i join him soon after. "hey guys about about we defend <location> then push if we get an edge" (8 mechs march forward to the usual spot on the map 95% of the players always go to and we lose)

team does NOT go to the "official" fighting spot on the map except for two guys who know no other map locations "you guys are all idiots for not following us here. pugs suck!" someone points out that maybe they should have stayed with everyone else then instead of going off alone but the one spot warriors announce "that plan was stupid and we're going to lose because you're all idiots" naturally we lose becuase the other team stuck together and won with their numbers advantage and of course "see i told you idiots you'd lose noobs."

yeah tough day today.

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Posted 15 September 2014 - 02:15 PM

View PostTanar, on 15 September 2014 - 01:51 PM, said:


PUG LIFE



Every time my soul dies a little bit more....

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Posted 15 September 2014 - 06:27 PM

Interesting things said in the posts above me....some of them a bit scary to be honest........
If ECM became less effective I wonder if I'd have to be Roger the psychic Squirrel to predict the utter ultraspam of lrms in matches....or I'd have to be a person who has no faith in human beings.

Path of least resistence yo!

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 02:27 AM

I dont know what i have done to attract that absolute garbage teams i have been attracting this past few weeks

I cannot for the life of me imagine WHY our solo cue which seems to be more and more full of ******** kids running in circles actually.... ACTUALLY....arguing that they should not need to listen to people TELLING them where the enemy team is "because we are just here to have fun, if you want tactics, go to the group cue"

i mean....WTF.....

i swear to god...we have idiots in this game who spend more time watching other people play and trying to connect to matches than actually playing, because when they do get a match they die in the first 3 minutes being derps, and then there all "gg"

no...it was a crap game you scored 34 in your direwolf....again....and sold out your team...again

i hate this game with a passion some nights....

Edited by FatYak, 16 September 2014 - 02:36 AM.


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Posted 16 September 2014 - 02:33 AM

View PostFatYak, on 16 September 2014 - 02:27 AM, said:

I dont know what i ahve done to attract that absolute garbage teams i have been attracting this past few weeks

I cannot for the life of me imagine WHY our solo cue which seems to be more and more full of ******** kids running in circles actually.... ACTUALLY....arguing that they should not need to listen to people TELLING them where the enemy team is "because we are just here to have fun, if you want tactics, go to the group cue"

i mean....WTF.....

i swear to god...we have idiots in this game who spend more time watching other people play and trying to connect to matches than actually playing, because when they do get a match they die in the first 3 minutes being derps, and then there all "gg"

no...it was a crap game you scored 34 in your direwolf....again....and sold out your team...again

i hate this game with a passion some nights....

you probably rose in elo.

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 02:35 AM

Im just an average schmo player...but by god, some of these teams make me look like a tactical genuis





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