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#3501 Alienized

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 01:49 PM

View PostCatra Lanis, on 19 February 2015 - 01:33 PM, said:


The question is, why are they bad? Correct me if I'm wrong but MWO isn't on top of the lists, there are no hordes of new players coming in at a steady rate. This means that the majority of both teams at any given time will likely have a number of matches under their belts.

I'm no top player, average at best but after 1 match I knew how to steer my mech, after 10 matches I could get some assists and contribute with a little damage, after 40 matches I still made a lot of mistakes (such as running over a ridge to find myself facing the entire enemy team) by then I felt I contributed at least a bit and even had a handful of kills.

I don't get it.


i dont know WHY they are bad but its pissing me off that i constanly have to carry more than half the team with mechs that cant carry.
alos 3/4 of my *team* constantly does one thing: run in the open and sit still after contact.
i am literally the only one looking back, pushing a flank or whatever.
its like playing with a bad AI in one team.

thats happening way too many times now. VOIP aint changing anything because people dotn want to play any different than what they think of.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 01:50 PM

View PostAlienized, on 19 February 2015 - 01:49 PM, said:


i dont know WHY they are bad but its pissing me off that i constanly have to carry more than half the team with mechs that cant carry.
alos 3/4 of my *team* constantly does one thing: run in the open and sit still after contact.
i am literally the only one looking back, pushing a flank or whatever.
its like playing with a bad AI in one team.

thats happening way too many times now. VOIP aint changing anything because people dotn want to play any different than what they think of.

just finished patching and played a few matches..doing a little experiment...so far, there has been ZERO use of VOIP in any of the pug drops i've done

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 02:01 PM

View PostBulletsponge0, on 19 February 2015 - 01:50 PM, said:

just finished patching and played a few matches..doing a little experiment...so far, there has been ZERO use of VOIP in any of the pug drops i've done



pugs will be pugs, no matter what you tell them. you could teach them something about tactics they wouldnt understand anything. or even use it.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 04:13 PM

apparently people are practicing their terrible play in preparation for the challenge this weekend...

my god its bad

#3505 Jon Gotham

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 04:56 PM

View PostBulletsponge0, on 19 February 2015 - 01:50 PM, said:

just finished patching and played a few matches..doing a little experiment...so far, there has been ZERO use of VOIP in any of the pug drops i've done

Played around 30 games today, I heard peeps in 5 matches use it. It was useful ZERO times.
Just got out of a cw match on my clan account, and repeatedly asked peeps not to stand in front of the gate-in front of the enemy firing line. the enemy was boating the bejesus out of lrms and I ate through 12k rounds of ams ammo on my kitfox! But the derpers just wouldn't listen to anything I said.
Just carried on giving the enemy free kills. We lost in the end 33 to 48, disgusting. One consolation prize was one arrogant little cicada trying to spawn kill me-he met my summoner in close combat, and died where he stood.
You get the odd game where it's used, but it's mainly unit players I see use it-it seems the "majority" of the "important" people don't want to use it.....

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 05:46 PM

Hit registration and what I think must be the ping factor. I love my lights but for the love of Mechtopia I can be running all sorts of weird shaped circles around a lone mech that even with elite status would have trouble focusing me. Then when I am standing behind him, pop I am legged.

Yet when a light comes into a lance on the flip side, no one can leg him and we can panels stripped off, mind you he does get the advantage of having friendlies help with the fire.

I am use to playing with around 250-300 ping in many games from FPS, MMO to RTS and even in the PvP arenas of MMO's it is fine. I don't what it is, could it be the server side factor?

#3507 Jon Gotham

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 07:56 PM

It is weird for sure, earlier on today x6 TWIn UAC20 (yes that's 240 damage) repeats into the Ct of a stalker at sub 50m range, result? Stalker still had yellow Ct armour.
I'm loathe to try 1 v 1 anymore,as I'm not certain I'll be able to count on damaging the enemy mech.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 08:41 PM

My whine is...we may as well just cancel all the Inner Sphere and turn this into "Clanwarrior Online". I mean, we're already getting Battle of Luthien Omnis up in here, and we haven't even had a proper CW yet?

The Lorehound in me is feeling...disappointed.

But on the flip side, maybe we can petition for a "Separate CW" queue, that's "Succession Wars Only" mode or something, with it's own map and stuff. That would be awesome. And the Clans could have a Pentagon Worlds CW. This is my dream, even if I am a bit on the "meh" side that the Clans are getting a 3rd wave with 3 mechs that have no business being here yet. ;)

I guess we can ask for our Templars then now eh? :P

Edited by Rip Snorgan, 19 February 2015 - 08:44 PM.


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Posted 19 February 2015 - 10:29 PM

View Post3xnihilo, on 19 February 2015 - 03:18 AM, said:


Ghost Bear's Legacy was "My Game." I enjoyed MW2, but it was GBL that really got me into the game. If the Kodiak had been available when I started I would probably be an assault pilot for Ghost Bear right now. . . ;)


I shudder to think at how much fun in Locusts you might have missed out on. ;)

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 11:19 PM

so this happened.

#activeontheforums

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 11:40 PM

I avoid playing mwo over the weekend for two important reasons firstly tournaments are ****. Pgis idea of how long we each have to play at a weekend is a joke i think they assume weyre all sad, no life, 30 something weirdos who only leave our house to buy food. And secondly and this ties in with the first point I'm married and have a house so there are better things to be doing on our days off. Only then can i consider the lrm camp fest, no after you take point attitude of other players.

Also voip gets introduced the first thing i do is turn it off. And use ts instead.

Edited by mad kat, 20 February 2015 - 04:57 AM.


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Posted 19 February 2015 - 11:47 PM

I have boycotted the clans in cw for me personally. Since merc news is all clan all the time, I've stopped listening to that too.

If I could remove clans from the pqs and relegate them to their own queue, I would.

They were a munchkin sop in the 80s, and just as much of one now.




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Posted 20 February 2015 - 01:06 AM

0855 am here. An hour ago fist match in CW defending a CW planet against FRR.
How can you do less than 700/1000 dmg with 4 mechs is a mistery. At least 500 dmg with 4 mechs! 125dmg each! If you throw an aistrike and hit you have almost done half of that damage! :(

So sad.. :(

The only think that makes me smile, though, is seeing so many bad IS players complaining against the uber OP clans..
[the you see lots of ppl doing 2000/3000 dmg on IS mechs but still, Clan mechs are OP lol]

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Posted 20 February 2015 - 01:09 AM

10 years ago, remember as we all played burnout 3 and that stuff....
man nostalgia kickin hard atm.



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Posted 20 February 2015 - 04:42 AM

You...made...me....look....all...the...tracks....up....damn .....you.....


Oh and this one might pertain to a certain solitary section of the playerbase:

Edited by kamiko kross, 20 February 2015 - 04:49 AM.


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Posted 20 February 2015 - 05:16 AM

haha :D

im all up for jimmy eat world atm :S

sweetness is perfect

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Posted 20 February 2015 - 08:06 AM

View Postred devil2, on 20 February 2015 - 01:06 AM, said:

0855 am here. An hour ago fist match in CW defending a CW planet against FRR.
How can you do less than 700/1000 dmg with 4 mechs is a mistery. At least 500 dmg with 4 mechs! 125dmg each! If you throw an aistrike and hit you have almost done half of that damage! :(

So sad.. :(

The only think that makes me smile, though, is seeing so many bad IS players complaining against the uber OP clans..
[the you see lots of ppl doing 2000/3000 dmg on IS mechs but still, Clan mechs are OP lol]


No, you're totally right, it's the IS that's OP, which is why FRR has more or less wiped out the Wolf and Ghost Bear incursion, and why Kurita has pushed Smoke Jaguar so far out into the periphery. :P

*Edited to add, that the "OP" elements of a faction are about more than simply the mechs. It also appears to be about perception, hype, and flavor of the month contracts. In many ways, the faction on top, draws the mercs, because who doesn't like winning? And with more or less no REAL penalty for faction hopping, why wouldn't they?

What I'd like to know is, where are the merc units who are saying, "Oh man, FRR really needs some help, let's get in there and turn the tides"? Because it feels like alot of them are playing for the Clans right now. And I really don't see any way for that to be balanced, though I'm hopeful that PGI will at least try.

Also, I know they indicated they wouldn't do a map reset with the "official" launch of CW, but honestly, how can anyone that isn't playing Clan look at that map and not feel sorrow for our Brothers and Sisters in the FRR?

Reset please. :(

Edited by Rip Snorgan, 20 February 2015 - 08:13 AM.


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Posted 20 February 2015 - 08:39 AM

Hey Rip notice my faction. Yep the Yooper First Lancers are trying to beat back the invading horde.

But yeah the shift to the winning faction is human nature. There is really no incentive to fight for the lossing side. I mean come on I can get about 50k chills and 25 loyalty points more if the FRR wins. Or I can be on a team that wins more so at the end of my play time I am a head more. Oh well maybe I need to open contract negotiations with Ghost Bear but no kodiak.

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Posted 20 February 2015 - 08:45 AM

I'm a Davion loyalist til the game dies, though if they did add the ability to create an "alt" on an account, I'd have to create a Jade Falcon Warrior to use all that Clan tech I've purchased. For now it just sits gathering dust in my mechbays. ;)

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Posted 20 February 2015 - 08:53 AM

Oh not me I have been a low life mercenary scum since I first rolled the dice. The word loyalest is just a word in the dictionary between lepercy and lunatic. :-p

It would be nice to play with my clan tech though.







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