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#3521 Jon Gotham

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Posted 20 February 2015 - 09:43 AM

Thing is Rip, that clan stuff ISN'T op. Not by a long shot. I use both tech and I'd take a Thunderbolt over any clan heavy, even the imbawolf.
The nature of mwo combat is peek a boo snapshot or long ranged sniping. In PAB IS has every advantage under the sun, if you know what you are doing. We run cooler and have all that PPFLD on tap.....
Ranged snipng? Yeah clans have more range but lordy those burn times....oh and the core of the sun hot as heat scale off of your 2 ER medium lasers...use ppcs! yes why not? But hang on they can make your mech go super nova hot in 4 secs sans 55 million heatsinks!

Anyway, silly dribbling aside they really, really ain't as op as people think they are. Nearly all my Is mechs have higher KDR, even my assaults.......

Edited by kamiko kross, 20 February 2015 - 09:44 AM.


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Posted 20 February 2015 - 09:47 AM

eh...my KDR is at 1.53 :D
but i wonder what the average assist stat would say....
usually i got the most of the complete team :S

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Posted 20 February 2015 - 10:15 AM

View Postkamiko kross, on 20 February 2015 - 09:43 AM, said:

Thing is Rip, that clan stuff ISN'T op. Not by a long shot. I use both tech and I'd take a Thunderbolt over any clan heavy, even the imbawolf.
The nature of mwo combat is peek a boo snapshot or long ranged sniping. In PAB IS has every advantage under the sun, if you know what you are doing. We run cooler and have all that PPFLD on tap.....
Ranged snipng? Yeah clans have more range but lordy those burn times....oh and the core of the sun hot as heat scale off of your 2 ER medium lasers...use ppcs! yes why not? But hang on they can make your mech go super nova hot in 4 secs sans 55 million heatsinks!

Anyway, silly dribbling aside they really, really ain't as op as people think they are. Nearly all my Is mechs have higher KDR, even my assaults.......


Yeah, I tend to think the gap is less technology based, and more simply faction based.

1st, it's perceived that Clan tech is OP, which it may be slightly, but not necessarily dramatically (and certainly not unbeatably) so, and that pulls players who are playing to "get the best tech" to the Clans (likely many of the meta gamers, with no attachment to lore for any reason, might fall into this category, at least if they aren't playing Firestarters at the moment :P ).

2nd, many of the current batch of Mechwarrior gamers (and I certainly won't fault anyone this, since they were super awesome games) cut their teeth on MW2/MW3/MW4, as either a Clanner, or an IS Mechwarrior with Clan tech, so while for me the nostalgia factor is strongest around IS mechs and Succession Wars stuff, for that group, the opposite is true, so the Clans pull those players for that reason. Clan Wave III that was just announced is certainly not going to alleviate this situation any. <_<

3rd, there is definitely an advantage to the fact that they have no Clans without a border into the Sphere, while we have 3 factions with no direct path into Clan territory. This has led to a ton of "in-fighting", as it were, while the Clans gobble up planets. I'm not exactly saying this is a bad thing per se, since I, for one, loved the Succession Wars, and had really been hoping the IS factions would have a nice chance to play that out a bit before the Clans showed up. Simply that, what I seem to see is, the Clans fighting each other from time to time, but mostly focused on driving to Terra, while you get IS factions wavering between countering the Clans, and taking planets from each other. Again, this is sort of what they did "emotionally" during the Clan Invasion (so I'm not 100% disappointed here), but when it came down to it, they came around and, except for House Liao really, more or less turned their attention away from each other and towards the Invasion, at least until Comstar bought them some time.

Finally, all these factors contribute to the fact that they're winning, alot, at the moment, and for some players, the team that's winning is the team to join (as a Davion loyalist, to be fair, this has worked to my own advantage from time to time in the past ;) ), so the Clans pull that type of player for that reason.

All in all, I have no idea how it ends up balancing out, but it feels like a repeat of what was experienced by many when the Clans showed up in Table Top...which was "Oh man...the Clans broke Battletech :( ".

Anyhow, all that aside, I'm still having a blast in my Enforcers and Locusts right now, so... :D

#3524 Jon Gotham

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Posted 20 February 2015 - 11:00 AM

View PostAlienized, on 20 February 2015 - 09:47 AM, said:

eh...my KDR is at 1.53 :D
but i wonder what the average assist stat would say....
usually i got the most of the complete team :S

Just ahead of me then, I'm at 1.30. My best mech is the thunderwub sat 5.00.
On my clan account well my best mech is my....myst lynx at 6.39......O_O

Edited by kamiko kross, 20 February 2015 - 11:01 AM.


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Posted 20 February 2015 - 11:37 AM

View Postkamiko kross, on 20 February 2015 - 11:00 AM, said:

Just ahead of me then, I'm at 1.30. My best mech is the thunderwub sat 5.00.
On my clan account well my best mech is my....myst lynx at 6.39......O_O

good lord :o

I don't have a single mech with higher than a 2.5 KDR :( but.... my global KDR is 1.6 not great, not bad...but I do play a lot of the ..shall we say...less than optimal mechs...

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Posted 20 February 2015 - 12:01 PM

View Postkamiko kross, on 20 February 2015 - 11:00 AM, said:

Just ahead of me then, I'm at 1.30. My best mech is the thunderwub sat 5.00.
On my clan account well my best mech is my....myst lynx at 6.39......O_O


i am not surprised, the agility combined with 2 srm6 is NASTY! i love that little bugger too :D
btw you need to add me on your clan account as well :D

i just checked my QKD-5K stats... 409 average damage. not bad with a mech that had only 28 alpha for a long time :D

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Posted 20 February 2015 - 12:24 PM

Ah, challenge weekend...that blissful time when people get so concerned about getting kills, or about being angry about "kill stealers", that they forget to worry about, you know...winning in the first place. ;)

#3528 Jon Gotham

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Posted 20 February 2015 - 12:33 PM

View PostAlienized, on 20 February 2015 - 12:01 PM, said:


i am not surprised, the agility combined with 2 srm6 is NASTY! i love that little bugger too :D
btw you need to add me on your clan account as well :D

i just checked my QKD-5K stats... 409 average damage. not bad with a mech that had only 28 alpha for a long time :D

But I went hardcore on my lynx, 4 small ER lazorz! Highlight of my career was leapfrogging some poor ac40 jaeger....back and forth, back and forth....
I only kept the prime variant though, sadly he has 1 er large, 1 er medium and ecm>.>

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Posted 20 February 2015 - 12:48 PM

View Postkamiko kross, on 20 February 2015 - 12:33 PM, said:

But I went hardcore on my lynx, 4 small ER lazorz! Highlight of my career was leapfrogging some poor ac40 jaeger....back and forth, back and forth....
I only kept the prime variant though, sadly he has 1 er large, 1 er medium and ecm>.>


hehe still have all 3 of them. first battle i done 760 damage or so LOL with the prime config.
it was hilarious, me and a atlas d-dc vs half the enemy. they got ROASTED

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Posted 20 February 2015 - 01:20 PM

and tournament/challenge gameplay is in effect,i get the xl lrm atlas teams 99 percent of the time.

use some real weapons guys,this i frustrating,im just trying to grind c-bills

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Posted 20 February 2015 - 01:54 PM

View PostCookiemonter669, on 20 February 2015 - 01:20 PM, said:

and tournament/challenge gameplay is in effect,i get the xl lrm atlas teams 99 percent of the time.

use some real weapons guys,this i frustrating,im just trying to grind c-bills


i currently take my brawl ddc for a spin.

but man, the amount of idiots not moving with me is incredible.... altho i say at start "follow me, i brawl face first".
but ye, also had the xl lrm assaults already... but i finally got a hook on that quickdraw with 2 large pulse and 4 meds.
tried it before but didnt work with the other quirks.

now its a bloody MONSTER

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Posted 20 February 2015 - 02:40 PM

kills without wins, wins without kill- story of my day. took me 3 hours to finally get the 3 qualifiers for the premium time. but i was REAL good today for turning CTs red so someone else can get the killshot though.

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Posted 20 February 2015 - 06:46 PM

Clan Wave 3 - and if it were not for the early adopter bonus - I would not even really be looking at it.

Good thing my sister is willing to float me a loan.
Here is hoping we do not have any trouble ordering it - she does not get payed until the 27th :unsure:

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Edited by Shar Wolf, 20 February 2015 - 06:46 PM.


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Posted 20 February 2015 - 07:22 PM

OK lads,came home from the pub,dusting out a LRM90 Mad Dog,wish me luck :ph34r:

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Posted 20 February 2015 - 09:07 PM

my whine

not seeing any other pink panthers! i mean come on.....

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Posted 20 February 2015 - 09:08 PM

View Postloopala, on 20 February 2015 - 09:07 PM, said:

my whine

not seeing any other pink panthers! i mean come on.....

What color are you using for that?

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Posted 20 February 2015 - 09:23 PM

View PostShar Wolf, on 20 February 2015 - 09:08 PM, said:

What color are you using for that?


Amaranth a 500mc color kind of spendy but the pun is priceless

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Posted 20 February 2015 - 09:28 PM

View Postloopala, on 20 February 2015 - 09:23 PM, said:


Amaranth a 500mc color kind of spendy but the pun is priceless

I shall have to remember that.

I only buy colors on sale - but an even relatively decent pink would rock.
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Posted 20 February 2015 - 09:37 PM

i normally don't buy unless on sale also, but for a pink panther. ok only one player got the joke today.

it would be nice if they would release the HM pink or a bit brighter hot pink.

Edited by loopala, 20 February 2015 - 09:38 PM.


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Posted 20 February 2015 - 09:45 PM

Today's whine?

People who get upset about the clan packs costing more.

Because coming pre-upgraded alone means they should TOTALLY cost the same!


I mean - it is not like the light mech's engines for the new pack would not cost an IS player ~12,000,000 cbills on top of the price of the package.

OH WAIT.
THEY JUST DID.

Pay for less grind people!

Edited by Shar Wolf, 20 February 2015 - 09:46 PM.






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