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[C E Dwyer]

Sandpit, on 23 March 2014 - 10:47 AM, said:

Every "new" thread I see about LRMs I notice a few constants.

It's the same very small handful of people wanting LRMs nerfed. They never get as many likes on their OP about nerfing as the ones who post about NOT nerfing them back. Think maybe it's just you and not the LRMs? Ever think that maybe the majority of players completely and totally disagree with all the nerf LRM threads and no matter how many times the smurfs post a "new" thread about them to "prove" it's "broken" that you're wrong?

Or perhaps its the people that want brawling to be viable again that are disliking the lrm buff, and there are morepeople, happy to sit at the back with weapons that out range LRM's that think its fine ?

Now I think I'm a careful player knowing where the cover is but this buff has made it so the team that wins on TD, caustic, alpine now go to the team that packs the most LRM's in, coupled with LRM turrets on small assault maps its bloody awful.

PPC meta was terrible
ac 5 domination is terrible both could have been fixed with a max (not effective) range nerf and a customisation limit based on size of weapon.

but in both these cases positional play and mobility was still an option.

The lrm buff has brought the rain down and on some maps its not worth moving off your spawn point now

Edited by Cathy, 25 March 2014 - 03:26 AM.

[wanderer]

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The lrm buff has brought the rain down and on some maps its not worth moving off your spawn point now

Then I will say without reservation- you are a bad player. Other players are perfectly capable, on every map, of handling LRMs. I know. They shoot me all the time. Then I explode. Sometimes,I shoot them first. I believe we call this "competitive".

I have little regard for people who claim there is no method of winning when I see others do so nearly every game, often in ways I would have never expected. To give up when others regularly succeed is to concede your own lack of competence. Uncreative people.

Disappointing, Cathy.

[Roachbugg]

insulting others makes all points you attempt ;less compelllimg

[xlrdallas]

funny, only the lrm, spamer,s with no skill are the only ones that think the lrm,s are fine, use cover , use ams, but there is no amount of cover to hide from 100000000,s lrm,s being shot at ya, ams did nodda before the patch and now really do nodda with 100000000 lrm,s coming at ya, only like 3 mechs that have ecm on them , so i have to use them 3 mechs only to have a chance,
pgi has no clue what thier doing

[Joseph Mallan]

Mcgral18, on 23 March 2014 - 10:41 AM, said:

Hey guys, why don't we buff them to 250 M/s and 1.5 damage per missile? THEN you can complain about lurmageddon. These are nothing by comparison.

Perhaps a small nerf to 150 M/s to appease the whiners, but we have a nearly balanced weapon that can compete against the master FLD race.

250M/S would be a little fast for what missiles presently do although we have research in to missiles faster than Mach 12! 1.5 Damage would be a bit much even though I have no problem throwing that at people.

[MadSapper1234]

Step #1: Over Buff LRM speed to 170 kpm
Step #2: People ***** about LRM speed
Step #3: Bring LRM speed down to ~150 KPM to look "reasonable", but you planned it all along.
Step #4: Community praises "reasonable" Devs.. which leads to
Step #5: Profit

This is planned all along. Watch the minor nerf coming soon.

[MadcatX]

wanderer, on 25 March 2014 - 03:41 AM, said:

Then I will say without reservation- you are a bad player. Other players are perfectly capable, on every map, of handling LRMs. I know. They shoot me all the time. Then I explode. Sometimes,I shoot them first. I believe we call this "competitive".

I have little regard for people who claim there is no method of winning when I see others do so nearly every game, often in ways I would have never expected. To give up when others regularly succeed is to concede your own lack of competence. Uncreative people.

Disappointing, Cathy.

Roachbugg, on 25 March 2014 - 03:57 AM, said:

insulting others makes all points you attempt ;less compelllimg

Although it might have been harsh, it is nonetheless the truth.

[BourbonFaucet]

complainers said:

LRMs ARE OP RUINING MY META PLS NERF

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[xlrdallas]

at least the pop tarter,s have to show them selfs to fire, you lrmer,s hide let other spot for ya and think your good lol lrmer,s = go back an play COD

[wanderer]

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Although it might have been harsh, it is nonetheless the truth.

Yep. And since reason doesn't seem to be getting the scrub stains off, I'm going with the harsher treatment.

For the nice folks like xlrdallas-

http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__3248552

There's the stats from the 'Mech I used all tournament and my stats. Fwoosh fwoosh, you can't call me a scrub or the Divine Archer, but I am an LRM carrier and if you're complaining...the problem is you. Get good, put up, shut up, or continue to wail and proclaim your scrubbiness to the world. The choice is yours.

[xlrdallas]

lol , congrats on you 20th place, just means your the 20th loser, if you cant see whats wrong with this game your just as bad as pgi, keep spaming lrm,s have fun

[Latorque]

There are still other options left .

Like letting this game rest until this LRM-clownfest is back to normal. If it's not; there are other games; unfortunately nothing in the BT universe.

He, wouldn't have thought i'd touch WoT again after moving to MWO; but at the moment this just isn't fun anymore. Reduce LRM-speed to the previous levels, reduce ammo per ton, or simply lower the flying arc (i don't care if i move behind cover to break LoS or to let those missiles smash into a building, but atm it need's to be about three times the size of you mech it seems). Well, i'll just hope that PGI finds some way to allow different playstiles again.

[Harkonnen1987]

The difference betwewn Lrm And Ac or lasers is that you need skill to use the later,aim position etc.When youre just siting back out of harms way and just spaming lrm how is that the same with ac,lasers etc?and hide behind object is a joke...you need to be in a case to be safe....

[Sandpit]

Harkonnen1987, on 26 March 2014 - 12:33 AM, said:

The difference betwewn Lrm And Ac or lasers is that you need skill to use the later,aim position etc.When youre just siting back out of harms way and just spaming lrm how is that the same with ac,lasers etc?and hide behind object is a joke...you need to be in a case to be safe....

lol best argument for nerfing LRMs running around the forums

"I don't think it's takes enough "skill" to use them"
bwahahahahaa
hahaha
haha
ha
wait....
that was serious...?

[Varent]

I feel this is a good example of the community.

DarkDevilDancer, on 23 March 2014 - 07:33 AM, said:

LRM's were fine before the buff there was no reason to increase the speed again we all remember the last spout of LRM hell.

The game isn't fun when its nothing but LRM spam just like it isnt fun when its dominated by 6 PPC stalkers.

Roll back the buff asap PGI it wasn't needed and it isn't liked.

This has 6 likes.

stjobe, on 23 March 2014 - 07:46 AM, said:

No, they weren't.


Yes there was.


Yes, and this is very, very far from that.


But dominated by AC+PPC is fine?


It was very much needed and it is quite appreciated by cooler and more experienced heads than those who feel a need to post yet another whine thread.

This has 22


Think about it.

[3rdworld]

Likes as a way to measure anything on this forum.....

Are you people really serious?

[Evil Ed]

LRMs isn't just about speed. The big issue with the latest speed increase is that the target decay didn't get adjusted - even if the target gets in cover the missiles still hit. I'd like to see a slight adjustment of decay time + a flatter flight path.

[Varent]

3rdworld, on 26 March 2014 - 01:41 PM, said:

Likes as a way to measure anything on this forum.....

Are you people really serious?

Someone makes a statment, People Like it. A large portion roughly 4 times the amount, like a statement more then a conflicting statement.

Yes likes are a good way of seeing where the community is at.

[Sephlock]

PhoenixFire55, on 23 March 2014 - 10:53 AM, said:

When 10 out of 12 mechs on each team has LRMs thats not 'compete'.

But when 12 out of 12 have jump jets and AC+PPCs that's fine?

[A Man In A Can]

MadSapper1234, on 25 March 2014 - 04:11 AM, said:

Step #1: Over Buff LRM speed to 170 kpm
Step #2: People ***** about LRM speed
Step #3: Bring LRM speed down to ~150 KPM to look "reasonable", but you planned it all along.
Step #4: Community praises "reasonable" Devs.. which leads to
Step #5: Profit

This is planned all along. Watch the minor nerf coming soon.

This guy gets it.