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[Flyby215]

Had this match a little earlier today...




I know matchmaker doesn't take loadout into consideration, but my team was all out PPC/AC... even my jump-Jester added a pair of PPCs to the mix.

It's matches like these that continue to draw me to the conclusion that sometimes matchmaker is just saying "time to put some losses on your record!"

Any suggestions as to how this can be better balanced? Do you have any similar tales of how one team was just utterly stacked? (Maybe you beat them back anyway? How?)

[Daekar]

Gargantuan gangrenous gobs of gazelle gizzards! Wtf kind of drop decks are those?

Is the assault/heavy population usually so dominant when you play? I at least expected to see a Jenner and a ShadowHawk somewhere in there.

[LawDawg]

Sometimes you eat the bear, sometimes the bear eats you. We all get games like that, and we've all been on the receiving end.

[Deathlike]

Without just saying "working as intended™" (despite that being the case), the MM is quite indiscriminant about builds, map, or playstyle, let alone "skill" (Elo is not entirely determining of skill, rather it is you understanding and execution of it).

What tends to happen is that players are not always well educated about how to conquer a particular build and playstyle... so the level of understanding "exerted" by your team or your opponent usually determines the outcome. Mistakes accumulate and magnify quicker when "core competency" is not achieved, thus more roflstomps.

It is understandable that even the AC40 Jager will suck on Alpine, but smarter pilots will know how to place themselves amongst the crowd in order to be effective. It doesn't mean the team is on the same page or clue, but these things are either learned/copied through attrition, or by other people vocally whining/giving up.

Edited by Deathlike, 08 April 2014 - 01:56 PM.

[DONTOR]

Poor enemy team, and on River City to boot! No chance to cap win really.

[Randalf Yorgen]

Dropped in a Game last night with 9 marik on one team and 10 marik on the other, there was one Kuritan and the rest were lone wolves I believe. Needless to say Marik won.

[LawDawg]

Randalf Yorgen, on 08 April 2014 - 01:56 PM, said:

Dropped in a Game last night with 9 marik on one team and 10 marik on the other, there was one Kuritan and the rest were lone wolves I believe. Needless to say Marik won.

Cause they had Lone Wolves!

[Bhael Fire]

I f@#king hate the MM in this game; it's honestly the the only thing that makes me want to rage quit consistently.

It's not weapons balance.
It's not arty strikes.
It's not crappy hit reg.
It's none of the stuff most people complain about.

It's the f@#king broken-ass POS matchmaker.

I hope it dies horribly in a freak gasoline fight.

[IronChance]

When I'm pugging sometimes I'll get thrown on to the same side as two 4-mans from top tier teams. When that happens, it's usually a race to see how many shots I can put on the enemy before they are all dead. Sometimes, I get put on the opposite side of same, in which case it's a test to see how long I can survive and if I can do more than a 100 damage before being killed so I don't have to walk back to the dropship with my pants down around my ankles. 3/3/3/3 is coming and private matches as well. Patience.

[Mystere]

Gee! I'd love to have been on the lighter side of that match! The adrenaline rush to stay alive would have been wow!

IronChance, on 08 April 2014 - 02:03 PM, said:

3/3/3/3 is coming and private matches as well. Patience.

Edited by Mystere, 08 April 2014 - 02:12 PM.

[DaZur]

Sigh...

Leaving extremely disappointed that there were no pictures of busty women in this post.

What could have been...

[FupDup]

DaZur, on 08 April 2014 - 02:10 PM, said:

Sigh...

Leaving extremely disappointed that there were no pictures of busty women in this post.

What could have been...

Why do I suddenly get the odd feeling that this thread is about to become NSFW?

[Bhael Fire]

IronChance, on 08 April 2014 - 02:03 PM, said:

When I'm pugging sometimes I'll get thrown on to the same side as two 4-mans from top tier teams. When that happens, it's usually a race to see how many shots I can put on the enemy before they are all dead. Sometimes, I get put on the opposite side of same, in which case it's a test to see how long I can survive and if I can do more than a 100 damage before being killed so I don't have to walk back to the dropship with my pants down around my ankles. 3/3/3/3 is coming and private matches as well. Patience.

Yeah, the majority of my matches consist of same scenarios.

Most of the time I'm on a "ride along" i.e., teamed up with a premade and they kill the other team before I can even get any good shots in. If I'm lucky I survive the match — most of the time I don't, but my win/loss ratio gets inflated anyway. Yay, Elo.

[AztecD]

no comunity warfare so it does not matter

once it comes then oh boy will the forums burn

[Deathlike]

DaZur, on 08 April 2014 - 02:10 PM, said:

Sigh...

Leaving extremely disappointed that there were no pictures of busty women in this post.

What could have been...

What, the Fafnir doesn't cheer you up?

Edited by Deathlike, 08 April 2014 - 04:12 PM.

[xCico]

Well obviously PGI hate brawl and force longe range,
I started to play warface, and there is a hell of good fun, but when I come back here, I see same people going 4 DS, Im tryting to have fun in my brawlers but nope, you just cant do a shit of theese high pinpoint, matches were become so heavy that isnt normal anymore, ill post match where we had in enemy 12 ASSUALTS, is that fun? I mean WHAT THE ******* PGI for **** sake anymore, that 3/3/3/3 should been implemented on APRIL 1ST not end of april,
I see less and less people playin this, when I want to PUG, nope fail to find match, when Im in match, 7-8 assualts on other team, man If this game survive I will be happy, because I dont know why PGI wont nerf that god damn PPC, I wouldnt care if they remoce it from game, just do something with it already... Main problem over 1 year...

[El Bandito]

Flyby215, on 08 April 2014 - 01:36 PM, said:

Had this match a little earlier today... I know matchmaker doesn't take loadout into consideration, but my team was all out PPC/AC... even my jump-Jester added a pair of PPCs to the mix. It's matches like these that continue to draw me to the conclusion that sometimes matchmaker is just saying "time to put some losses on your record!" Any suggestions as to how this can be better balanced? Do you have any similar tales of how one team was just utterly stacked? (Maybe you beat them back anyway? How?)

And people said LRMs are OP? Yeah...


Also, 4G? Ewww.

Edited by El Bandito, 09 April 2014 - 02:50 AM.

[DemonRaziel]

Daekar, on 08 April 2014 - 01:49 PM, said:

Gargantuan gangrenous gobs of gazelle gizzards! Wtf kind of drop decks are those?

Is the assault/heavy population usually so dominant when you play? I at least expected to see a Jenner and a ShadowHawk somewhere in there.

Considering some of my matches, especially in the EU morning hours, this could be considered a light drop... 8+ assaults / 10+ assaults and heavies on either side are not uncommon. Lighter 'Mechs are virtually unable to meaningfully contribute to those games.

[Bobzilla]

I would hazzard a guess that there was a sync drop that got split up on different sides, one side decided to blow it. Hurting the other team badly. I could be wrong, but I see things like this happen quite a bit.

[TehSBGX]

Well 3/3/3/3 is going to prevent wonky teams like that but it's not gonna fix the horribly broken Elo system the game uses. I'm not sure PGI is ever going to admit elo doesn't work for this kind of game. :/