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[Bobzilla]

2.5 dps. 20 damage in 8 seconds.

[Sandpit]

Like a boss



That's a "good" mech, max armor, good speed, great heat, and 4.99 DPS

BLR-1G

[Bhael Fire]

Sandpit, on 10 April 2014 - 11:53 AM, said:

That's a "good" mech, max armor, good speed, great heat, and 4.99 DPS

BLR-1G

Since you've got extra tonnage to spare, swap that ML in the arm for a MPL to avoid heat penalty on an alpha strike. It's cool enough to handle the minor heat increase. Also, the extra mobility in the arm make the MPL more useful than a ML vs any lights that get up in your face.

[Sandpit]

Bhael Fire, on 10 April 2014 - 12:03 PM, said:

Since you've got extra tonnage to spare, swap that ML in the arm for a MPL to avoid heat penalty on an alpha strike. It's cool enough to handle the minor heat increase. Also, the extra mobility in the arm make the MPL more useful than a ML vs any lights that get up in your face.

Eh, I could have done a few different builds, I just put that one together quickly to accept the challenge

[Rhent]

I challenge OP to spell challenge.

[Bobzilla]

I'm just saying there is a balance problem in my eyes which causes energy weapons to be filler for any left over tons and choosing an energy only build should be more viable.

No DPS isn't everything, but if someone can't see that sustained DPS alone has such a huge gap, there has to be something wrong.



Also you guys came up with some clever builds, nice job!

Edited by Bobzilla, 10 April 2014 - 01:36 PM.

[Almond Brown]

Question? Does "Sustained" mean an "Alpha" every Cool down or a chain fire setup? Also, under Smurf's values, what best represents a true "decent" heat %?

P.S. of course it would be based on a heat neutral map being selected.

[Bobzilla]

It's the highest dps you can do without shutting down. Chain vs alpha doesn't matter in the long run.

Edited by Bobzilla, 10 April 2014 - 02:34 PM.

[Sandpit]

Bobzilla, on 10 April 2014 - 01:31 PM, said:

I'm just saying there is a balance problem in my eyes which causes energy weapons to be filler for any left over tons and choosing an energy only build should be more viable.

No DPS isn't everything, but if someone can't see that sustained DPS alone has such a huge gap, there has to be something wrong.



Also you guys came up with some clever builds, nice job!

Me energy boats would beg to differ

[LawDawg]

Bobzilla, on 10 April 2014 - 10:22 AM, said:

Can anyone go on smurfy and make an all energy build on any mech which has a sustained DPS of 5?

I think there is a cap for energy weapons, seems like a design flaw which would favor ballistics and really hurt energy hp only mechs.

Raise the heat on ballistics if this is the case.

So 2-3, if not more have ran you thru....................


Shut down, Lock thread.

[Ovion]

Joseph Mallan, on 10 April 2014 - 10:28 AM, said:

Best I have in my Bays is This, at 4.50.

Roadbeer, on 10 April 2014 - 10:27 AM, said:

Here you go

You made a Charger!

No: This is a Charger (that 400XL!)
BLR-1G

And has 7.5tons free with a SDPS of 5.67.
Same build with all Med Lasers is 4.99
5.45 with Small Pulse Lasers.
5.27 with 2 Large Lasers and 4 Small Lasers.

5.71 with 2 LL, 3 SL and a Flamer.
6.69 with LL, 3ML, 3 Flamer.
7.42 with LL, 2ML, 4 Flamer.

8.42 with LL, 2ML, 4 Flamers and a Machine Gun. (while this last isn't all energy, close enough )
BLR-1G

I wonder if I can do better...

Edited by Ovion, 10 April 2014 - 03:34 PM.

[Amsro]

Banshee Blue Flame

Doesn't even need all the tonnage! Win Button!

Edit; Because Tonnage.

Edit 2; Because DPS

Edited by Amsro, 10 April 2014 - 04:00 PM.

[Ovion]

Atlas:
BOAR'S HEAD6.72 1LL, 2ML, 3 Flamers.
Banshee:
BNC-3M 8.04, 5 Flamers, 2ML, LL.

Amsro, on 10 April 2014 - 03:52 PM, said:

Banshee Blue Flame

Doesn't even need all the tonnage! Win Button!

Edit; Because Tonnage.

Lasers and their Pulse equivalent are treated as the same thing for Ghost Heat.
I made it up to 8.04 with almost 10 tons free!

Edited by Ovion, 10 April 2014 - 03:58 PM.

[Lord Perversor]

Trouble is Flamers are a bit Tricky due not a real show of the scaling heat they bring in combat.

Anyway i proudly bring you the Cheaper 6.86 DPS fully operational with minimal upgrade needs

[Ovion]

Yeah, realisticly, that would be better (hell, dropping a few heat sinks and replacing a ML with a LL still keeps it over 5SDPS, would be even better, and honestly, a mix on something else would be even better).

But, within the Challenge set, 8.04 is the best so far.

One day I'd love to try out one of these silly builds, and I'll have to see what I can make work with the ones on my 'wishlist', and see if it's actually any good.
(I have no interest in Battlemasters, Banshees or the Boards Head, and of course the mech would need to be at least Elited to work.)

[KnowBuddy]

Ovion, on 10 April 2014 - 04:40 PM, said:

But, within the Challenge set, 8.04 is the best so far.

Actually, no. Amsro's DPS edit looks like it's at 8.54.

[Amsro]

Ovion, on 10 April 2014 - 04:40 PM, said:

But, within the Challenge set, 8.04 is the best so far.

The second edit you missed.

Amsro, on 10 April 2014 - 03:52 PM, said:

Edit 2; Because DPS

8.54

If I had a banshee I would try it. Hmmm Battlemaster 1G. Breaks the rules with 2 MG, but I might try it for for a few matches. 8.95. Can always make a real build out of it if the trolling doesn't work.

Edited by Amsro, 10 April 2014 - 09:15 PM.

[Krinkov]

If you ever need to waste 100 tons in a drop.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...49e31c21d94f413

[Bhael Fire]

There's definitely an art to boating effectively with energy weapons...but the trade-offs are worth it.

I really don't see very many discrepancies between weapon systems....at all.

The real problem in this game is the MATCHMAKER.

[Scurry]

A little armour shaving on the BJ-1X, and hey presto!

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...2a712bee412f272