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[Chronojam]

dangerzone, on 16 April 2014 - 10:54 AM, said:

If you're going to make an argument, make sure you can back it up. That is all.


EDIT: Also, they never actually mentioned a timeframe for Community Warfare. They just said that it'd happen. They were never like: "Hey guys this is PGI speaking and you will see CW on x date and y time. They just said it'd happen. So again, learn the facts before you even start.

[Lindonius]

Chronojam, on 16 April 2014 - 07:52 PM, said:

Fantastic. I hope this is just a snippet of work in progress?

[El Bandito]

PGI and Doomsday sayers have something in common.



THE END/CW is... ...nigh?

Edited by El Bandito, 16 April 2014 - 08:43 PM.

[Riptor]

dangerzone, on 16 April 2014 - 11:04 AM, said:

Hmmm...odd I could have sworn I was only saying that way back when this game was first inducted and was an idea, they did not claim a timeframe. I never said that they did NOT give us timeframes later on. Also, still not two years. Game hasn't been out for two years.

Care to bring up any other unrelated content in an attempt to prove me wrong?

Nice cherry picking to make your absolute worthless statement seem to have merrit. PGI has set its own deadlines in the past and missed them all even you admit that, and that is exactly what people here are refering to. Oh and btw. the 90 days after OB? That promise was made during closed beta to convince people to buy more founders. Since your founders mechs would give you a nice bonus to cbill gain for CW! After all back then the concept of hero mechs wasnt even introduced yet so everyone believed those founders mechs where one of a kind.

So stop being a smug little child and admit that you put your foot in your mouth.

[Chronojam]

Lindonius, on 16 April 2014 - 08:31 PM, said:

Fantastic. I hope this is just a snippet of work in progress?

Just a small portion of a little fun project.

[Lyoto Machida]

dangerzone, on 16 April 2014 - 12:21 PM, said:

Ugh ******* keyboard just erased everything I typed....okay let me type it a SECOND time.

When I said "no timeframe" that second mini paragraph was a continuation of the first. Meaning that when the founders promises were made/the game became an idea set in stone, they never gave a timeframe as to when, just that it would happen. I never said they DIDN'T give timeframes. I'm aware they gave multiple.

Also, I do not appreciate you noticing that I did not fully elaborate on something and using it as an excuse to call me fooled/tricked/convinced everything is okay and making me look bad. If you took the time to read my post and think about it rather than seeing what you wanted to see to spread more vitrolic hate messages about pgi and put me down for "being convinced", you'd see I never said they never ever have made timeframes. Yeah. So thanks.

EDIT: I forgot that with the black-knight community, you gotta explain everything in detail or else they use what you say against you to make you, and pgi look bad.

PGI doesn't need "black knights" to look bad...they make themselves look bad.

http://mwomercs.com/...m-launch-event/
http://mwomercs.com/...nsion-detailed/

Maybe this will tide you over:

[cSand]

Roland, on 16 April 2014 - 04:18 PM, said:

No Pot! YOU are in fact the one who is black!



Believe it or not, I was not always as negative in my opinions of this game.


Have you noticed PGI giving away more free stuff recently? And the threads where folks are having trouble finding matches, even when pugging solo now?

At some point, when the population is too small to support the game, are you still going to say good riddance?

OK so for the most part I was winding you up, and I'm sorry for that. I also meant no personal insult so I hope you didn't take it as such!


but yea...

if the game were to go teats up... I guess I'd play something else.



I think my ultimate point would be more along the lines of this:

Lighten up guys... it's just a game after all

[Wolfways]

Zolaz, on 14 April 2014 - 08:42 AM, said:

What is the date on factional warfare now?

AFAIK there's going to be community warfare, but not faction warfare.

[Fanatic]

Zolaz, on 14 April 2014 - 08:42 AM, said:

What is the date on factional warfare now?

Destined, on 16 December 2013 - 05:32 PM, said:

Greetings MechWarriors,

Please leave your feedback for Russ Bullock's Command Chair post on the 2013 State of the Inner Sphere here.

2013 State of the Inner Sphere
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The only items really remaining from the Community Warfare pillar are two items, although pretty big ones. They are what we can call “Association” which is further connecting factions and the idea of Loyalty points and “Inner Sphere Planetary Conquest” which of course is competing over territory. I have not listed off dates for these systems because we don’t have as precise of estimates quite yet. But we can for the first time based on the January-April development schedule provide a more accurate estimation then we have in the past. Below are some conservative estimates of the remaining Community Warfare features that I think we can probably beat.

Conservative Estimates:
- Association: July-Aug
- Planetary Conquest: Sept-Oct

Confidence is very high that worst case scenario is the completion of the entire Community Warfare feature set as we currently understand it by Early to Mid-fall.
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Happy Holidays

Russ Bullock
President, Piranha Games Inc.

[Roadkill]

Wolfways, on 17 April 2014 - 12:51 AM, said:

AFAIK there's going to be community warfare, but not faction warfare.

We already have community warfare, it's called the MWO Forums.

[BARBAR0SSA]

Wow that youtube video really makes CW look bad....who cares about owning planets when I get cheap prices to....things I own a LOT of :\ maybe if items/mechs were destroyed and only certain planets would produce them etc.

I guess that sorts out the lack of people purchasing clan packs besides the price which isn't a factor for myself I was more worried that CW you'd be limited in choice of mechs depending on what your faction owns etc.

[dangerzone]

Chronojam, on 16 April 2014 - 07:52 PM, said:

Okay, this was a well thought out post and I wanted to respond not to argue, but to just clear something up thast a previous post did. I'll admit I worded that in a very general fashion and that it does not seem to fully say WHEN these timeframes were announced.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong. (Its' okay to do so. I won't deny actual quoted facts and stuff. Facts are cool. )

But, when I said they originally did not give a timeframe, I was referring to when this game was first like, an idea and they only really had some beginning code and design pillars. I don't recall them saying a timeframe or date for that initial design pillar of Community Warfare. I'm aware they gave the "date" at least 3 or 4 times afterwards which you have luckily given me in your post. thank you.

I just wanted to clear that up is all

Now then, before I leave I just want to say one thing.

Quote

We argue to find out who is right. We debate to find out WHAT is right

Now, with that clearing up the intention behind my post that you quoted, you may all resume your arguing debating.

Edited by dangerzone, 17 April 2014 - 03:25 PM.

[Chronojam]

Zoomed out for context; "Within 90 days" was the projection given three weeks after closed beta started. Two months prior, Paul gave an interview describing those pillars you referenced.

At this time, as you can see, AMS wasn't even working yet. I would suggest that this timeframe -- prior to even founders mechs existing -- would be considered early enough.

[ProtoformX]

Hellcat420, on 16 April 2014 - 01:10 PM, said:

actually pgi told us community warfare would be 6 months after open beta started.

By my calculation that would put the original promise date at about May 2013. In that case they're 1 year behind schedule - Half the amount of time the OP has allotted. My point still stands.

[Roadkill]

ProtoformX, on 17 April 2014 - 08:59 PM, said:

By my calculation that would put the original promise date at about May 2013. In that case they're 1 year behind schedule - Half the amount of time the OP has allotted. My point still stands.

Um... no.

Roadkill, on 16 April 2014 - 11:47 AM, said:

Open Beta started in August (?) 2012. 3 months after that means we were expecting CW in time for Christmas 2012. CW is now promised 6 months after the Clans are released.

Clans are being released on June 17th, 2014. 6 months after that would be... Christmas of 2014.

So yes, CW is ~2 years behind schedule.

The promise was 90 days after Open Beta. That's 3 months, not 6. And Open Beta was August-ish (possibly September, I don't have the exact date memorized) of 2012.

So we were promised CW by Christmas, 2012. It's now due Christmas, 2014.

OP is correct. CW is 2 years behind schedule.

[Lyoto Machida]

Roadkill, on 18 April 2014 - 12:01 PM, said:

Um... no.

The promise was 90 days after Open Beta. That's 3 months, not 6. And Open Beta was August-ish (possibly September, I don't have the exact date memorized) of 2012.

So we were promised CW by Christmas, 2012. It's now due Christmas, 2014.

OP is correct. CW is 2 years behind schedule.

So we'll get it Summer 2015 then? Maybe???

[ProtoformX]

Roadkill, on 18 April 2014 - 12:01 PM, said:

Um... no.

Because Roadkill says!!!111

Learn math please.

[Roadbeer]

ProtoformX, on 19 April 2014 - 10:36 AM, said:

Because Roadkill says!!!111

Learn math please.

Actually, he's right(ish)
OB was November 2012, 90 days after would put it Q1 2013, we're Q2 2014 with the first 2 phases of CW not slated until Q3 and Q4 2014 but full implementation not likely until Q2 2015, so, yeah OP is/was right.

[Dymlos2003]

We are getting a part of cw next patch aren't we? The launch module?

[Roadbeer]

Dymlos2003, on 19 April 2014 - 11:13 AM, said:

We are getting a part of cw next patch aren't we? The launch module?

The Launch Module is to CW, in all honestly what a single map is to CW, or the faction tag I've been wearing since day one.
Sure, you can consider it as part of the whole, but that's kind of being intellectually dishonest.

Edited by Roadbeer, 19 April 2014 - 11:22 AM.