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[RG Notch]

dangerzone, on 16 April 2014 - 11:04 AM, said:

Hmmm...odd I could have sworn I was only saying that way back when this game was first inducted and was an idea, they did not claim a timeframe. I never said that they did NOT give us timeframes later on. Also, still not two years. Game hasn't been out for two years.

Care to bring up any other unrelated content in an attempt to prove me wrong?

EDIT: 6 months after clan sales? Well, it depends what they mean by "after" sales. IF they mean back in December when they started selling, then next month (May) is 6 months and that isn't happening. If they mean AFTER jun 17th once sales are finished, that puts us at December 2014. They claim V1 of CW nis in the fall, so that'd seem more right. Again, the "after" can be interpreted both ways so I'm not sure. I'm not PGI afterall

No I don't care to prove you wrong. I know the truth, people who have been here from the start know the truth. If you missed that, it's on you. This Is why PGI can take advantage of people, because rubes are born every minute. I've waste more than enough time trying to educate said rubes on why PGI's word isn't worth the pixels it's displayed on and yet there is some strain of them that apparently wants to be taken advantage of.
It's not my responsibility to prove what has been said over and over. It's the job of PGI and their defenders to show that they are worthy of trust. PGI has laid down dates for CW whenever they have their hands out selling things. Then after that particular sale is done, it's oh that was our position at the time. So keep on holding PGI to no standards and then act surprised when they don't follow through.
All this has happened before and will happen again, just each time with less players and increased prices. Again I don't expect me to waste my time citing sources so you can weasel out of it. If you don't believe me, so what, go buy more MC and keep the cycle of nonsense going. Me I've got the mechs I want plus some empty mech bays, I've millions of C bills and even some MC from Founders left over. I can now sit back and watch this game burn and laugh or if it gets fixed enjoy it all while never spending another dime. I'm not spending anymore time or effort on this game. I will however post from time to time to let new people know that these makers of Grade ZZZ shovel ware and console hunting and fishing games know jack shit about making a serious AAA F2P title.

[dangerzone]

RG Notch, on 16 April 2014 - 11:29 AM, said:

No I don't care to prove you wrong. I know the truth, people who have been here from the start know the truth. If you missed that, it's on you. This Is why PGI can take advantage of people, because rubes are born every minute. I've waste more than enough time trying to educate said rubes on why PGI's word isn't worth the pixels it's displayed on and yet there is some strain of them that apparently wants to be taken advantage of.
It's not my responsibility to prove what has been said over and over. It's the job of PGI and their defenders to show that they are worthy of trust. PGI has laid down dates for CW whenever they have their hands out selling things. Then after that particular sale is done, it's oh that was our position at the time. So keep on holding PGI to no standards and then act surprised when they don't follow through.
All this has happened before and will happen again, just each time with less players and increased prices. Again I don't expect me to waste my time citing sources so you can weasel out of it. If you don't believe me, so what, go buy more MC and keep the cycle of nonsense going. Me I've got the mechs I want plus some empty mech bays, I've millions of C bills and even some MC from Founders left over. I can now sit back and watch this game burn and laugh or if it gets fixed enjoy it all while never spending another dime. I'm not spending anymore time or effort on this game. I will however post from time to time to let new people know that these makers of Grade ZZZ shovel ware and console hunting and fishing games know jack shit about making a serious AAA F2P title.

TL;DR: PGI made me regret spending money on the game, so I'm gonna make sure all new players are aware that PGI sucks major balls and I'm mad over a videogame and I want everyone to share my beliefs and opinions on PGI no matter what.

Okay, I'm done here. Have fun wasting your life RG Notch. There are much more productive things to do then viist every new player on the forums and spew vitrol about how bad PGI is. Don't you have a job or something? Or family and friends to hang out with?

[Mcgral18]

Bhael Fire, on 16 April 2014 - 11:09 AM, said:

I feel just fine. Been here since closed beta and I still love this game.

Also, while I'm very critical of their design decisions at times, I still think this is the best Mechwarrior title ever created.

I've been here awhile as well, but I have to say the game was much more enjoyable back with SHS, no endo or other upgrades. You couldn't mount too many weapons with engine only heatsinks, and actually had to manage your heat.

Have you given MWLL a try? I have to say working SRMs in that game can be amazing, and then you step into MWO where they disappear into oblivion. They did many things better than PGI, but there are a few things that MWO does do better.

Edited by Mcgral18, 16 April 2014 - 12:55 PM.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Even if it's not delayed, it won't be what we want/expect.

[King Arthur IV]

verybad, on 16 April 2014 - 10:55 AM, said:

Yeah, but they won't" cross their fingers and hope to die" promise it then either, that's asking too much.

soon it shall be "the feature that shall not be mentioned" oooooooooooOOOOooOOoOOooooOOooOOo

[Duke Hector]

well if they can't make the deadline they have only themselves to blame.

They brought this on themselves by wasting time and founders money because of a bought license that was not long enough from the start from Microsoft. Then lying about what they were doing for the next period of 12 months, by giving us mechs and stupid sales. and not EVEN PLANNING the whole stuff.

I mean they haven't even put stinking DECALS in the game, and THAT was supposed to be out June of last year shortly after the highlander was released. and that has to be one of the SIMPLEST things to even do.

i will continue to criticize the Devs about stuff like this since i was a "former" adamant defender of them, right up to the 3rd person fiasco. After that the gloves came off, if they can't deliver their own bloody product with deadlines that they set themselves.....

sucks to be them i guess they can't blame the fans for stuff like this, we aren't building and designing the game.

THEY are

Edited by Dan the Ice Man, 16 April 2014 - 11:42 AM.

[King Arthur IV]

bets on!!!

i bet it will be delayed again

if im wrong i will allow you to core me from the rear *wink*

[dangerzone]

Nicholas Carlyle, on 16 April 2014 - 11:37 AM, said:

Even if it's not delayed, it won't be what we want/expect.

So, I agree with you on this, but most likely for a different reason based on the assumption of how you feel about mwo/pgi based on your forum sig.

So, a lot of us even me most likely will have had imagined cw much different from what pgi is releasing. A lot of us have played mw2/mw3/mw4 and we all have an idea on how we want gameplay to work and storylines to work based on what we've already experienced in most mw/bt videogame single player campaigns.

This is similar to well, sex. Think about it. WE all at one point never had it or haven't had it and we all have/had an idea on what it would be like, nobody had the same idea. When it happened for some of us, we probably all had a different opinion on it and felt that it was different from what we thought it was. I apologize for the crude analogy, but it was the best one I could think of.

As CW approaches nearer, try to think of it as you are a "virgin" to Community Warfare. Pretend you've never heard of what it was about. Remove your ideas and admirations for it. Remove your predictions, thoughts and expectations. If you can do that when Community Warfare comes (whenever that may be) I guarantee that just about all of you WILL have a kickass time. This is because if you do this, you aren't setting the bar to be this super duper amazing game content (not to sday it won't be), but it might be awesome for a very different reason than what you thought.

Basically, what I am trying to say is, do what I suggested, or you are only setting yourself up for disappointment when it is not the CW you imagined.

Edited by dangerzone, 16 April 2014 - 11:49 AM.

[Roadkill]

Open Beta started in August (?) 2012. 3 months after that means we were expecting CW in time for Christmas 2012. CW is now promised 6 months after the Clans are released.

Clans are being released on June 17th, 2014. 6 months after that would be... Christmas of 2014.

So yes, CW is ~2 years behind schedule.

[Duke Hector]

Roadkill, on 16 April 2014 - 11:47 AM, said:

Open Beta started in August (?) 2012. 3 months after that means we were expecting CW in time for Christmas 2012. CW is now promised 6 months after the Clans are released.

Clans are being released on June 17th, 2014. 6 months after that would be... Christmas of 2014.

So yes, CW is ~2 years behind schedule.

and if they can't meet that deadline they reap what they sow..... which will be ALOT of angry people

Edited by Dan the Ice Man, 16 April 2014 - 11:50 AM.

[cSand]

Zolaz, on 16 April 2014 - 10:21 AM, said:

I will just see how you feel after giving hundreds of dollars to PGI and seeing how you are treated after 2 years.

Been playing since CB so... roughly 2 years.

Put more money into this game than any other, but not "hundreds"... maybe 2 hundo max, I'm not totally sure.

Feeling great, loving the game, no issues. Mind you I don't really care about CW... but I can definitely understand the frustration of people having to wait for it... but hey, you wait for everything in life. It's really not that important at all in the grand scheme

Edited by cSand, 16 April 2014 - 12:00 PM.

[Rhaythe]

King Arthur IV, on 16 April 2014 - 11:43 AM, said:

bets on!!!

i bet it will be delayed again

if im wrong i will allow you to core me from the rear *wink*

ItsATrap.jpg

[GFierce]

Most of us that have been here for a long time are still waiting for CW. I would be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed in PGI about CW. Even though I enjoy the game that is here I wish and hope for much more. As long as I enjoy the game I will still be here. The problem is that grinding for mechs gets old after awhile and you need something else to do. I would bet we won't se CW until 2015 and even that is hoping. Until then I hope or the best and expect the worse. As long as I have that outlook I think I am okay with the money I have spent and the amount of entertainment I get out of the game.

[cSand]

GFierce, on 16 April 2014 - 12:00 PM, said:

The problem is that grinding for mechs gets old after awhile and you need something else to do.

Yea, like grind for faction points!

[Roland]

dangerzone, on 16 April 2014 - 10:54 AM, said:

What this guy said. Seriously though. Closed Beta was for them to get the damn game working. Hmmm I had an account with MWO in March 2012 and got into CB in May 2012. I'm pretty sure they were more focused on getting the game stable before working on CW. Also, OB was similar.Open Betas are designed to see if your work in CB has provided a consistent stable platform because in OB you have thousands of more people which means thousands of more chances for something to go wrong that was not discovered in CB.

So, technically, you can start counting CW as of September 2013 which means we have only been waiting for uhhhh~7 months?

If you're going to make an argument, make sure you can back it up. That is all.

EDIT: Also, they never actually mentioned a timeframe for Community Warfare. They just said that it'd happen. They were never like: "Hey guys this is PGI speaking and you will see CW on x date and y time. They just said it'd happen. So again, learn the facts before you even start.

I was going to point out exactly how hilariously wrong you are here, but instead I'm going to page Chronojam, so he can use his timeline of awesomeness to lay down exactly what statements PGI made and when.

(it's mind boggling that you actually have been convinced that PGI never actually set any timelines on CW... do you really not remember their statements about when CW was going to be released?)

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Roland, on 16 April 2014 - 12:12 PM, said:

I was going to point out exactly how hilariously wrong you are here, but instead I'm going to page Chronojam, so he can use his timeline of awesomeness to lay down exactly what statements PGI made and when.

(it's mind boggling that you actually have been convinced that PGI never actually set any timelines on CW... do you really not remember their statements about when CW was going to be released?)

A lot of people here seem to have very selective memories.

[DONTOR]

The same place where I bet that this isnt your first post complaining about PGI.

[dangerzone]

Roland, on 16 April 2014 - 12:12 PM, said:

I was going to point out exactly how hilariously wrong you are here, but instead I'm going to page Chronojam, so he can use his timeline of awesomeness to lay down exactly what statements PGI made and when.

(it's mind boggling that you actually have been convinced that PGI never actually set any timelines on CW... do you really not remember their statements about when CW was going to be released?)

Ugh ******* keyboard just erased everything I typed....okay let me type it a SECOND time.

When I said "no timeframe" that second mini paragraph was a continuation of the first. Meaning that when the founders promises were made/the game became an idea set in stone, they never gave a timeframe as to when, just that it would happen. I never said they DIDN'T give timeframes. I'm aware they gave multiple.

Also, I do not appreciate you noticing that I did not fully elaborate on something and using it as an excuse to call me fooled/tricked/convinced everything is okay and making me look bad. If you took the time to read my post and think about it rather than seeing what you wanted to see to spread more vitrolic hate messages about pgi and put me down for "being convinced", you'd see I never said they never ever have made timeframes. Yeah. So thanks.

EDIT: I forgot that with the black-knight community, you gotta explain everything in detail or else they use what you say against you to make you, and pgi look bad.

Edited by dangerzone, 16 April 2014 - 12:22 PM.

[dangerzone]

Nicholas Carlyle, on 16 April 2014 - 12:17 PM, said:

A lot of people here seem to have very selective memories.

Feel free to read my last post. I love how you guys took what I said and ran off with it to continue your hatred. For your information, I don't give a hoot whether or not CW ever releases. I try to focus on what is here and what I can play with rather than moan over what is not here. There are many ways to percieve things differently in life. This is one of them.

[Rebas Kradd]

What's really going to suck is if PGI runs into another legitimate developmental barrier like the kind that delayed CW in the first place, and truly does have to put off CW to fix a vital area of the game.

The reason will be perfectly legitimate, and nobody will care. So goes software development.