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[Abisha]

oke, here i share my secret design of my Anti Light Design.
this is made specific to counter those little buggers, and not to loss to much DPS to be prey on those large mechs.


http://www.mediafire...qx06l3d/Photos#

JESTER

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Fast.
Precession Damage, and lot of it.
operate without arms. yea those get shot of always.
Fully Armored.

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Range.
Heat (but hey don't we all)
expensive Design, it cost me like 10 mil credits.

So what's your CPLT-J build?, and whats it's goal?.

Edited by Abisha, 21 April 2014 - 12:12 AM.

[Wolfways]

An anti-light mech with no arm weapons....

[Abisha]

Wolfways, on 20 April 2014 - 11:37 PM, said:

An anti-light mech with no arm weapons....

yea go figure..

[ImperialKnight]

learn2smurfy

There are several issues with the build

- Ferro Fibrous on a Heavy (FF is almost never worth it on heavier mechs, it takes up too many crit slots)
- STD engine on a Catapult. Catapults are so fragile with the huge CT, you'll need the speed. The advantage of the Jester over the other Cat variants is the larger engine cap, no point wasting it. Cats also have relatively small side torsos. You're also not going to catch any lights with a small engine
- Not enough heatsinks. The Jester is all energy, the point of all energy hardpoints is to allow you to have a bigger engine and stack heatsinks
- JJs in legs with spare slots in side torso. Legs get shot off, put JJs where they can't be destroyed
- Not enough armor CT
- You already have a measly 6 energy hardpoints as a Heavy, why waste 2 of them. You can choose to put backup weapons there. If you're planning to let them get shot off, may as well take off the armor for more DHS or larger engine.
- spare tonnage, the build isn't min/maxed. you have 0.22 tons left over, which could have gone towards a larger engine

In keeping with your design philosophy, I would build the Jester like this or this or this

The poptart meta build is the most popular nowadays

Edited by knightsljx, 20 April 2014 - 11:40 PM.

[Wolfways]

Maybe an anti-light mech without JJ's...mech.
How do you fight something that jumps (or just sits) above you?

[Abisha]

I have super bad experience with XL engines, none of my mechs use them.
just watch your statics you die mostly by engine death when you use XL

anyway that JJ on the torso side is a good idea, not thought of that.

Edited by Abisha, 21 April 2014 - 12:12 AM.

[ImperialKnight]

some mechs are bad with XL (Atlas, Hunchback), some mechs are good with XL (Catapults, Cicadas, Dragon, Victor), some mechs have no choice but to run XL (Jagermech, Light mechs)

Learning to torso twist and spread damage and shield is part of the game. Shadowhawk is an example of a mech with obvious side torsos but is able to shield and spread damage very well so they almost always run XLs

I tend to build mechs to their strengths and weaknesses. But feel free to build any mech anyway you like. I run some pretty ridiculous sub-optimal builds but I have fun in them.

[Escef]

Take it from experience, Catapults run XLs like a boss. I was very skeptical of it for a long time as well. Then one day I dropped a 315 XL into my K2 and the mech changed from good to fantastic.

[focuspark]

Sorry mate, I have to come out and say it: this is a terrible design.

• FF is a waste of space on all but the smallest 'mechs
  
• No arms? I'll stand above or below you. Especially if I'm a light, I need to pay attention to the fact that you can't shoot up or down.
  
• CPLT were made for XL engines - their CT is so hard to miss that the sides can sacrifice armor for weight and still not get blown out.
  
• LPL means up close and brawler, but you've got a sad panda 285 in there.

Here's a better build, it can snipe, brawls like a beast, plain fun to play.

JESTER PRIME

[Escef]

focuspark, on 21 April 2014 - 09:00 AM, said:

• FF is a waste of space on all but the smallest 'mechs

I use it on my CN9-A, my K2, the 1X and 4X 'phracts, and 5S Thunderbolt. Every now and again you find a bigger mech that can make good use of it. I've yet to see an assault mech make good use of it, but it wouldn't surprise me too much if there were one or two niche builds that pull it off.

[DONTOR]

focuspark, on 21 April 2014 - 09:00 AM, said:

• LPL means up close and brawler, but you've got a sad panda 285 in there.

LOVE IT LOL!

[Gas Guzzler]

I built my Jester around an XL 355.....

[process]

JESTER

Replace PPCs with LPLas or ER/LLas/Engine as required.



Skullkitteh.

Edited by process, 21 April 2014 - 10:55 AM.

[Escef]

The most popular Jester build is a 350XL, 4xML, 2xERLL, near max armor, AMS to taste, load up the rest with double sinks.

[Mad Ox]

Keep coming back to ER LL and 4 ML gives me some stand off range to snipe at start of battle which tends to keep me alive longer.

Have tried PPC's and LL's both were quite good but ER LL and range kept it high on list.

LPL though I will have to look into with fast engine its range matches up to ML pretty well be a good combo I think.

Regardless Jester needs big engine to keep it moving.

[Felio]

I've been trying to work an ER PPC build. I know they are too hot to use more than one, but I want to anyway. I was taking a pair with 4x small lasers, but I upgraded to SPL.

This is as cool as you can possibly get them (no secondary weapons): http://mwo.smurfy-ne...60d54acc97d8063

With 19 DHS, you can fire them three times before overheating.

[Orbit Rain]

No one's mentioned it yet, but OP's build works better on a C1 with the extra torso twist.

[William Radick]

My build is certainly not going to win any popularity awards, but it works well for me.
XL355, 6 Medium lasers, 2 ams with 3 tons of ammo, 22-23 DHS. Stay near an assault and provide cover against lights/ LRMs and fire all day without overheating.

Essentially a giant jenner

[Dark Horse X]

If you're looking to run the LPLAS's, here's the build I run. It definitely sneeks up on peeps - as they don't realize the damage it can put out. It's really hard for them to twist out of pulse laser damage as their duration makes it more of a pinpoint damage dealer.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...6fc62bed171b506

[focuspark]

William Radick, on 13 May 2014 - 03:29 PM, said:

My build is certainly not going to win any popularity awards, but it works well for me.
XL355, 6 Medium lasers, 2 ams with 3 tons of ammo, 22-23 DHS. Stay near an assault and provide cover against lights/ LRMs and fire all day without overheating.

Essentially a giant jenner

The Jenner-XL is a popular design. I see them frequently; they seem to do alright but they need to close in and with all that damage going to straight to the CT I can't make them survivable.