TygerLily, on 03 May 2014 - 07:05 AM, said:
My whole initial question is: why is there in innate "bad reputation" that has developed regarding HoL and why does it seem many members have chosen the "embrace it" route rather than using their position to strengthen the community?
We embrace it because, "LORD _________, ggclose" and the bad reputation distracts players from the game, which is what we're all here for. Just because we play a video game, doesn't mean any two individuals has anything in common with each other except for that fact (that they play the same video game). It would be wrong to expect everyone else to do anything other than play the game simply because they want to play the game. Therefore, the social strife that ensues is less important to us (embracing the bad reputation) and it's just another weapon to win with. It's not like we would all become terrible players if we stopped saying, LORD _______, ggclose". People are susceptible to mental attacks such as that, and if they can't focus on getting better themselves to get the win, that is their issue and no one else's.
TygerLily, on 03 May 2014 - 07:29 AM, said:
I guess I'm wondering if HoL values how iron sharpens iron...they apply it to actual gameplay skills...why not in regards to personality of their not-members?
Like I said, priority is enjoyment of high-skill and competitive gameplay first, social aspect second. Any competitive pilot would wish to hone their own skills first, and whether or not they choose to be social is their choice. Some enjoy being social but don't take it too seriously because they care more about the competition. They are in every community and that's the reality, and everyone is entitled to play the game in whichever way they want.
The infamy of the Lords is largely backed by the skill of the members. Others I have met in MW:O troll much harder, are bigger ********, and could care less about the community but absolutely suck at the game.
I feel as one individual in the greater community, and personally speaking, I see it best that the community take the majority good that comes with the Lords rather than caring about the minority bad. The perpetual debate and contention over this, "who likes the Lords and who doesn't" is a classic "black and white" issue that has obvious logical fallacies when applied to particular instances in relation to the Lords. It's just bad to generalize, period. Removing generalization is the progressive step, not the Lords changing their actions.
Driving that perpetual debate is the community, and there will always be a part of it that continues to fuel the fire, no matter how hard the community tries to police itself from assuming so much about the House of Lords. That mind-game is the hold the House of Lords has on the community, and it's pretty much too late to change that anymore. Once the ball gets rolling, it's very hard to stop it. The community is divided too much in their own ways to come together and defeat something like that.
Edited by heimdelight, 03 May 2014 - 02:31 PM.