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[CoffiNail]

Todd Lightbringer, on 25 April 2014 - 01:55 PM, said:

And jump jets >_<

We tend to remove the JJ to get use to the Adder setup. You get use to the no JJ on the Jenner.

[Lucky Moniker]

Jump jets? We don't need no stinking jump jets.

[101011]

After all, why use jump jets when you can fit more weaponry in?

[Lucky Moniker]

You do not need to fly away when they are dead, quineg?

Edited by Lucky Moniker, 28 April 2014 - 12:07 PM.

[Noesis]

If it could fit ECM it would be a real "Solid Snake", quiaff?

[CoffiNail]

Lucky Moniker, on 28 April 2014 - 11:23 AM, said:

Jump jets? We DO NOT need no stinking jump jets.

Fixed that for you.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Noesis, on 28 April 2014 - 12:59 PM, said:

If it could fit ECM it would be a real "Solid Snake", quiaff?

Yes?
Errmm... (let's not blow my cover)
Aff!

Would SS count as a trueborn I wonder?

[FireSlade]

Shar Wolf, on 28 April 2014 - 02:03 PM, said:

Yes?
Errmm... (let's not blow my cover)
Aff!

Would SS count as a trueborn I wonder?

Well he was genetically born and only the best traits were taken for him so I say aff, he is trueborn.

[Noesis]

Shar Wolf, on 28 April 2014 - 02:03 PM, said:

Yes?
Errmm... (let's not blow my cover)
Aff!

Would SS count as a trueborn I wonder?

I don't understand the point you wish to make here though?

Since if your trying to be possesive of the characterisation based on genetics and origins don't you still have to remember that some members of the Dark Caste also had Trueborn origins?

[Alaskan Nobody]

Noesis, on 28 April 2014 - 04:16 PM, said:

I don't understand the point you wish to make here though?

I wasn't actually trying to make a point, just curious about how others would perceive Snake's possibility of being perceived as trueborn.

Which is to say - to my limited understanding of Snakes origins (only played MGS3 and 4) he was about as much a trueborn as Phelan was - and Phelans status was debated in the Clans to no end.
IE: he technically qualified, but some had reasons (which I cannot remember >.< ) to believe he was not.
(not just that he was from the IS either - something about how he had been "Born" from a human womb or something?)

Anyways... yeah, was (mostly) just curious how others would see Snake from a Clan perspective.

Edit: I claim no connection to the Clans - the "Wolf" in my name actually pseudo-refers to Lone-Wolf status.

Edited by Shar Wolf, 28 April 2014 - 04:21 PM.

[Noesis]

Think you'll enjoy this Shar Wolf (well I hope so):

[Strum Wealh]

I would imagine that having a lineage that can be directly traced back to one of the 800 warriors who stood with Nicholas Kerensky during the Exodus Civil War would be part of the definition of being a "Trueborn", in addition to the whole "eugenics & artificial womb" thing.

Of course, Phelan was a blood relative of one of those warriors (which was almost-certainly part of why the Wolves didn't just throw him out of an airlock after interrogating him).

Can Solid Snake make the same claim?

[Alaskan Nobody]

Strum Wealh, on 28 April 2014 - 06:30 PM, said:

Can Solid Snake make the same claim?

No, and he probably would not be able to make the claim of being an ancestor of one either.
(If I remember right, they made it so he couldn't have descendants)

[GalaxyBluestar]

Edited by GalaxyBluestar, 28 April 2014 - 07:25 PM.

[Noesis]

Too funny GB.

But I really hope to convince PGI of the ability to hide the Adder with ECM, it would help with it potential speed related issues in some situations.

And this funny cardboard box analogy would be a very charming way to bring awareness to the idea of the Adder using ECM.

[GalaxyBluestar]

Noesis, on 28 April 2014 - 07:26 PM, said:

convince PGI

hmmm the logic will suffer here, that's a no go area. well there was a time when perhaps feedback swayed the no ecm jenners decision so who knows.

[CyclonerM]

Shar Wolf, on 28 April 2014 - 04:20 PM, said:

I wasn't actually trying to make a point, just curious about how others would perceive Snake's possibility of being perceived as trueborn.

Which is to say - to my limited understanding of Snakes origins (only played MGS3 and 4) he was about as much a trueborn as Phelan was - and Phelans status was debated in the Clans to no end.
IE: he technically qualified, but some had reasons (which I cannot remember >.< ) to believe he was not.
(not just that he was from the IS either - something about how he had been "Born" from a human womb or something?)

Anyways... yeah, was (mostly) just curious how others would see Snake from a Clan perspective.

Edit: I claim no connection to the Clans - the "Wolf" in my name actually pseudo-refers to Lone-Wolf status.

Strum Wealh, on 28 April 2014 - 06:30 PM, said:

I would imagine that having a lineage that can be directly traced back to one of the 800 warriors who stood with Nicholas Kerensky during the Exodus Civil War would be part of the definition of being a "Trueborn", in addition to the whole "eugenics & artificial womb" thing.

Of course, Phelan was a blood relative of one of those warriors (which was almost-certainly part of why the Wolves didn't just throw him out of an airlock after interrogating him).

Can Solid Snake make the same claim?

Phelan Kell is technically a freeborn and as a freeborn he is regarded among the Clans

And being part of different universes may not give SS a claim on a Bloodname

[Noesis]

GalaxyBluestar, on 28 April 2014 - 08:01 PM, said:

hmmm the logic will suffer here, that's a no go area. well there was a time when perhaps feedback swayed the no ecm jenners decision so who knows.

No go area for whom?

Regardless of the lack of potential appeal of ECM by "some" players, Clan Mechs need to equally have some access even if limited like IS mechs to this equipment.

Thus I don't personally consider it to be a "no go" area at all.

Edited by Noesis, 29 April 2014 - 04:16 AM.

[Noesis]

CyclonerM, on 29 April 2014 - 04:02 AM, said:

And being part of different universes may not give SS a claim on a Bloodname

Pretty sure that both Metal Gear and BT are fictions set on the existant RL universe and the Milky way region to be more specific.

Maybe a sample of his blood was found in a mosquito preserved in a piece of Amber?

[CyclonerM]

Noesis, on 29 April 2014 - 04:10 AM, said:

No go area for whom?

Regardless of the lack of potential appeal of ECM by "some" players, Clan Mechs need to equally have some access even if limited like IS mechs to this equipment.

Thus I don't personally consider it to be a "no go" area at all.

There is a Kit Fox configuration with ECM so i assume we will get one somehow..