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[kesuga7]

man this is gonna be first thing entire team shoots at

[Jetfire]

If you guys had originally announced a QTY publically with a little counter that ticked down every time one was bought we might believe this isn't just some marketing stunt to stampede whales.

I was this close ---><--- to buying one of these after seeing that the launch module is real, once you deliver it next week in working order. Just to thank you for finally giving us the ability to run private matches.

Who is running your marketing team, Billy May's ghost?!

If you deliver LM in working order tuesday and there are any of these packs left, I will flip a coin on it. Try harder, marketing isn't rocket surgery.

[PropagandaWar]

shellashock, on 24 April 2014 - 03:50 PM, said:

Not sure if allowed to ask, but how many Gold Timber Wolf Collections were there from the start?

50

[DONTOR]

If I do buy a Gold Direwolf will I be able to put the golden arms on a regular variant? If so, I will buy it today, otherwise no.

[Haroldwolf]

I can't wait for the riot that will occur when in a year when a cash strapped PGI will let you buy one for 15,000 MC.

Edited by Haroldwolf, 25 April 2014 - 09:31 AM.

[Opus]

crossflip, on 25 April 2014 - 08:51 AM, said:

This whole thread screams whalebait. I don't recall seeing any indication of these packages being limited by quantity, which leads me to think this is just a cheap attempt at making your shiny gold pixels seem even more valuable and rare. Seriously, it's not the balance, it's not the delays, nor the design decisions, but the outright ugly pricing scheme that predates on MW fans that gets to me. I'm never gonna buy any mechs even though I enjoy this game, because I simply don't see value for money in anything other than more mechbays.

To me, it all says predator marketing schemes

[Sigilum Sanctum]

Ill shell out 500$ for the pack if PGI also gives us 10 new maps. And I do mean good ones, we don't need another carbon copy of Caustic hell-hole Valley...

[kesuga7]

still think they shoulda made khan kollection
include ALL the gold mechs for 500$ instead of just 1

im betting they would have had more purchases too lol

[Androas]

DONTOR, on 25 April 2014 - 09:26 AM, said:

If I do buy a Gold Direwolf will I be able to put the golden arms on a regular variant? If so, I will buy it today, otherwise no.

I dare to say the "Paint" is fixed to the Variant, so, no matter how you interchange parts, it will allways be a gold mech, and others, will simply have the basic look, even when equipping parts of the gold mech.

Why would i think so?

Because paint/cammo is fixed, you cant mix and match those either.

[Haroldwolf]

Waurgrim, on 25 April 2014 - 08:02 AM, said:

Love the feedback and am happy you love the games. I love the games as well.
In the interests of providing a different point of view I'll say that I've already contributed over $300 because I too love the MechWarrior games and wanted to see a new/updated entry in the series.

That contribution included founders, phoenix and saber packages (plus more). It does not include any of the Clan packages. These previous contributions were based on my desire to see another MechWarrior game and a willingness to support PGI/IGP on the vision they laid out.

After nearly 2 years I'm not overly impressed with the progress made on the game. Not saying what is there isn't fun, but the progress towards that vision to me as a potential "investor" is not impressive. I'll not be purchasing content sight unseen any more until I see much more significant execution on the vision I originally decided to fund. Still love the MechWarrior franchise, still hope to see it succeed.

For me it's not an issue of "investing" in MechWarrior so much as an issue "investing" in PGI/IGP and their ability to execute. They got a couple rounds of funding from me. They now have to execute and earn the trust of this "investor" going forward that was originally given to them based on my fondness for MechWarrior and approval of a vision for the game they laid out.

This is just a different opinion. I hope the game succeeds and I hope to one day contribute again. PGI/IGP will have to earn that trust now instead of getting it on "blind faith".

PGI hates the idea that people who bought the various packs are in reality investors and stakeholders.

[Shylok]

My take on the Golden Mechs:
People keep approaching this as "I'm buying a commodity and this product is outrageously priced" when I think the real purpose of these gold mech packages existing is much more along the purpose of being a self-run Kickstarter style funding program. People who buy these packages are helping to keep the company moving forward and provide new content that they would love to see come to fruition. The golden mech is not a commodity, it is a perk for those who are willing and able to help support the company by "donating" to the cause.

• Will I be getting one? No, I unfortunately do not have that kind of money to donate at this time.
  
• Are people who do buy these crazy or daft? No, they are fortunate enough to have the necessary money and are willing to support a game company that is providing niche game that so many of us love from our childhoods.

So when these gold mechs are released, you could take the approach of chastising and doing everything in your power to make the game miserable for the players that bought them like so many have said they will do... OR, you could thank them for helping to support a game, that even though it hasn't turned out exactly the way you envisioned it, you are still able to play because the company had enough money to stick around from funding campaigns like this one.

*Note: This post is not a debate on if we feel PGI is using this money wisely or developing the game in the way you feel is best, merely my opinion on the true nature of these packages and the individuals who are able to purchase them. If you don't like the deals, its very simple, don't spend the money. But don't grief people who do, its because of them that we still have a game to play.

[focuspark]

LakeDaemon, on 25 April 2014 - 09:01 AM, said:

Is that a gold Summoner at the very top in the center?

No, it's a construction crane.

[PropagandaWar]

Ngamok, on 25 April 2014 - 08:44 AM, said:

Why? Please tell me why charging $260 for a gold skin is a smack in the face. IT'S NOT FOR EVERYONE. It's basically for people to throw in some money to further support PGI, NOTHING ELSE. Did you really want that gold skin and are now pissed off because it's out of your reach? Get over it.

Yeah I agree. What people do with their money is their business.

[Steel Fox GB]

So much for the concept of camouflage.

[Nemesis Duck]

Gehenna CA, on 25 April 2014 - 08:26 AM, said:

The fact that these things even exist shows how out of touch this game is with the entire Battletech universe. Clan warriors would find such a display of wealth an abhorrent waste of resources.

I'm reading Lethal Heritage right now and some Clan commanders are bidding against each other to their Khan, who can take a planet with the least amount of equipment and resources.

[Opus]

Shylok, on 25 April 2014 - 09:35 AM, said:

My take on the Golden Mechs:
People keep approaching this as "I'm buying a commodity and this product is outrageously priced" when I think the real purpose of these gold mech packages existing is much more along the purpose of being a self-run Kickstarter style funding program. People who buy these packages are helping to keep the company moving forward and provide new content that they would love to see come to fruition. The golden mech is not a commodity, it is a perk for those who are willing and able to help support the company by "donating" to the cause.

Piranha Games Inc.
1132 Hamilton Street Suite 300
Company Background & Description
Revenue: $25 mil. - $50 mil.
Employees: 100 - 250
Industry: Software Development & Design , Software , Toys & Games , More
Products and Services: computer game

One hell of a rich Kickstarter company don't ya think?

Edited by Opus, 25 April 2014 - 09:48 AM.

[Grishnakh]

Just a little remark: Are you aware that this game will probably be closed after a short while if nobody spends money on it?!

So why all the hate and the envy?! If someone is willing to spend so much money on it to support the game you should be happy so we can play and benefit from further improvements.

[Shylok]

Opus, on 25 April 2014 - 09:47 AM, said:

Piranha Games Inc.
1132 Hamilton Street Suite 300
Company Background & Description
Revenue: $25 mil. - $50 mil.
Employees: 100 - 250
Industry: Software Development & Design , Software , Toys & Games , More
Products and Services: computer game

One hell of a rich Kickstarter company don't ya think?

Revenue alone is not a good indicator of a companies wealth and profitability. We have no insight into their overhead or net margin dollars. We also don't know if Mechwarrior online is even their sole project right now and if it isn't, how much of their spendable budget is allocated to this project.

From the wiki page, past and current projects of PGI:
Bass Pro Shops: The Strike (Xbox 360, Wii, Windows)
Duke Nukem Forever (Windows, Xbox 360, PS3)
MechWarrior Online (Windows)
Die Hard: Nakatomi Plaza (Windows)
EA Playground (Nintendo DS)
Medal of Honor: Heroes 2 (PSP)
Need For Speed: Undercover (PSP)
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Windows, Xbox 360, PS3)
Bass Pro Shops: The Hunt (Xbox 360, Wii, PC)

[Opus]

Grishnakh, on 25 April 2014 - 09:50 AM, said:

Just a little remark: Are you aware that this game will probably be closed after a short while if nobody spends money on it?!

So why all the hate and the envy?! If someone is willing to spend so much money on it to support the game you should be happy so we can play and benefit from further improvements.

I don't see it as hate or envy: but a cautionary advice for those who can't afford it yet believe their manhood is in question if they don't buy it: a Fool and His Money... yada yada yada

but in Respect to the deployment and marketing it reeks of predatory marketing and money grabbing by the publishing company, not so much the development company

And in some regards it really does insult our very intelligence as a community, just my humble opinion

[Wildstreak]

Sigilum Sanctum, on 25 April 2014 - 09:31 AM, said:

Ill shell out 500$ for the pack if PGI also gives us 10 new maps. And I do mean good ones, we don't need another carbon copy of Caustic hell-hole Valley...

No. There are enough maps now. Even though there was a promise of a Desert map, I would not mind if it and other maps were skipped so they could focus on other things. Like which old Mech next gets the ability to change appearance of weapons.