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[Boymonkey]

Frankly I am really pissed off this game is the only one I pump money into and to get clan stuff is going to cost me more than the mechs I already have bought?....I have bought just about every hero mech but that is it...no more cash from me.
Good on the people who can afford it though and good luck.

[FerretGR]

Edward Mattlov, on 30 April 2014 - 03:58 PM, said:

Star Citizen has $1000+ virtual items that you can preorder and the game is still over a year away.

Ahh, the old "two wrongs make a right" argument. It must be okay for MWO to charge a stupidly ridiculous price for their gold paint if a single other example of stupidly ridiculous overpricing exists.

[Heffay]

FerretGR, on 05 May 2014 - 09:41 AM, said:

Ahh, the old "two wrongs make a right" argument.

Except neither of those arguments are "wrong". It's the new normal. The video game generation has grown up, and it turns out we have money.

[Boymonkey]

FerretGR, on 05 May 2014 - 09:41 AM, said:

Ahh, the old "two wrongs make a right" argument. It must be okay for MWO to charge a stupidly ridiculous price for their gold paint if a single other example of stupidly ridiculous overpricing exists.

I just went over and spent 80 pounds on a ship but SC has much more depth than MWO which is basically a FPS.
I love MWO but when SC comes out bye bye MWO (At least me spending money on it).

[FerretGR]

Heffay, on 05 May 2014 - 02:24 PM, said:

Except neither of those arguments are "wrong". It's the new normal. The video game generation has grown up, and it turns out we have money.

It's not normal. It could be argued that it's "sort of" normal in the free-to-play or MMO gaming communities, but I think SC and MWO stand out in the price of their digital goods, even in that realm. And just because we have money doesn't mean we shouldn't get value for that money. We still do in other areas of the video game market: sure, these "limited edition" and "season pass" and whatnots can make games in the non-mmo/ftp area a little pricier, but we're, from my perspective, still getting something of value and getting it at a reasonable price.

IMHO, charging someone $500 for gold paint is most certainly a "wrong." I don't know what SC is doing and I don't care, but if they have a similar pricing model, then from my perspective, they're "wrong" too. That's, in my opinion, two wrongs. Or is it my opinion that's "wrong", Heffay? Whatever you may think, the poster I was responding to was justifying outrageous pricing here by pointing out outrageous pricing elsewhere. "Everyone else is doing it" is a poor justification for almost any behavior in almost any situation, again, IMHO.

Edited by FerretGR, 06 May 2014 - 07:17 AM.

[Opus]

Heffay, on 05 May 2014 - 02:24 PM, said:

Except neither of those arguments are "wrong". It's the new normal. The video game generation has grown up, and it turns out we have money.

The New Normal? wow

[Heffay]

Opus, on 06 May 2014 - 07:20 AM, said:

The New Normal? wow

Was a great TV show. Wish they brought it back.

[Mystere]

FerretGR, on 06 May 2014 - 07:16 AM, said:

IMHO, charging someone $500 for gold paint is most certainly a "wrong."

<steps out of the shadows>
Psst! $500 actually gets you 25 mechs, one of which is painted gold.
<steps back into the shadows>

Edited by Mystere, 06 May 2014 - 07:29 AM.

[Bilbo]

Mystere, on 06 May 2014 - 07:28 AM, said:

<steps out of the shadows>
Psst! $500 actually gets you 25 mechs, one of which is painted gold.
<steps back into the shadows>

True, but so does $240.

[Heffay]

Bilbo, on 06 May 2014 - 07:56 AM, said:

True, but so does $240.

(pssst... it only gets you 24 mechs!)

[Bilbo]

Heffay, on 06 May 2014 - 07:58 AM, said:

(pssst... it only gets you 24 mechs!)

Yeah...that last one is too rich for my blood.

[SirLANsalot]

Heffay, on 05 May 2014 - 02:24 PM, said:

Except neither of those arguments are "wrong". It's the new normal. The video game generation has grown up, and it turns out we have money.

Heaven forbid we ever spend it on the games we all grew up with....*GASP* How dare company's go after our money with there pricing schemes!

[King Arthur IV]

you know what would be funny?! if everyone logging in to play and every match was swarming with gold mechs.

limited edition my @#$

[Xoxim SC]

King Arthur IV, on 07 May 2014 - 08:22 PM, said:

you know what would be funny?! if everyone logging in to play and every match was swarming with gold mechs.

limited edition my @#$

They'll reward the gold skin as the final social reward like they did to the Phoenix people and the flame pattern.

[Koniving]

FerretGR, on 06 May 2014 - 07:16 AM, said:

IMHO, charging someone $500 for gold paint is most certainly a "wrong." I don't know what SC is doing and I don't care, but if they have a similar pricing model, then from my perspective, they're "wrong" too. That's, in my opinion, two wrongs. Or is it my opinion that's "wrong", Heffay? Whatever you may think, the poster I was responding to was justifying outrageous pricing here by pointing out outrageous pricing elsewhere. "Everyone else is doing it" is a poor justification for almost any behavior in almost any situation, again, IMHO.

I agree that is poor justification.

While I find some prices ridiculous, I will note that over there the obscene pricings are for things you could eventually 'earn' anyway (In SC not MWO; there ain't no justification for it other than 'rare' and if there's only 50 left there ain't no rare to it at all), released in limited quantities, with 'lifetime insurance' so you can't lose it no matter how many times it is destroyed, and typically requires between 8 to 20 players to even be able to use it. So instead of one person shelling out for it, it tends to be a group/guild/unit/faction/whatever you want to call a lot of players banded together buying it for an entire group.

For example a capital ship with hanger bays, lightspeed travel, crewquarters, etc., that can perform repairs on smaller craft, handle missions, warp/hyperspace jump, etc.

Which is fine by me, I plan to be a pirate. And when I get there, find someone with their fancy capital ship, I plan to see if you really can board, take over, and commandeer such a ship.

Because I gotta say if you're manning a turret, while I'm walking your corridors, I don't think you're going to disengage and turn around in your seat fast enough before I pull the trigger. The only thing is I need to find a way to punch a hole in the ship or slip into an open hanger.

One of the nice features of a simulator.

Edited by Koniving, 08 May 2014 - 08:29 AM.

[Appogee]

Mystere, on 06 May 2014 - 07:28 AM, said:

Psst! $500 actually gets you 25 mechs, one of which is painted gold.

$240 also gets you 25 Mechs.

[SirLANsalot]

Appogee, on 07 May 2014 - 09:18 PM, said:

$240 also gets you 25 Mechs.

no.


$240 gets you 24 mechs.
$500 gets you 25 mechs, the gold mech is in its own special bay (much like Shara's jenner/founders/phoenix mechs) and has its pattern like a hero mech.

[Edward Mattlov]

FerretGR, on 05 May 2014 - 09:41 AM, said:

Ahh, the old &quot;two wrongs make a right&quot; argument. It must be okay for MWO to charge a stupidly ridiculous price for their gold paint if a single other example of stupidly ridiculous overpricing exists.

Ah, the childishly entitled claim of unfairness. What I implied was that it is ok for a developer to charge whatever they want for their product and it is ok for us as consumers to decide whether we want to purchase that product or not. Charging an "outrageous" price for a non-essential product is hardly a "wrong", just because you can't or won't pay that price.

Edited by Edward Mattlov, 07 May 2014 - 11:42 PM.

[Kyynele]

There is a business need to have something really really expensive for the players with the most loose cash. In niche games, quantity never makes as much money as whales bring in.

IMHO, making that whale bait a cosmetic item rather than something that would actually give any edge in the game is commendable, and definitely the "right" thing to do.

Edited by Kyynele, 08 May 2014 - 01:13 AM.

[RapidFire7]

I suppose if you want a golden mech, just buy a gold colour in the client and do your mech up that colour

Inexpensive and nearly the same thing, although it's kinda like covering up a hole in the wall with a poster...
"Close enough" is the correct term