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[SuperFr0sty]

Hey there Mechwarriors! I kinda need your Advice, comments, suggestions, violent reaction too maybe?

This Pre-Order, We got the ala carte, the packages. I'm still undecided and I think it's almost to close. I could say it's really tempting to order but I really don't want to see my wallet and cry.


I want to know your long term if it's a buy or not.


If I'm going ala carte, which top 3 mechs are you going to buy?

Replies will be greatly appreciated!

[Takeshi Kitano]

To be honest - I see no reason for al a carte .... The diffrences in the prices are really big, so i decided to order the Mad Cat Package, maybe upgrading to Masakari, cause i never would get the C Bills to buy the Mechs i Like in this Package.

If you would go al a Carte i would buy
Mad Cat
Daishi/Dire Wolf
Stormcrow

Edited by Takeshi Kitano, 26 April 2014 - 08:56 AM.

[Revorn]

None of them, because iam playing IS and boutgh the Poenix Pack.

I like the Pack much, as it spared me much time to grind the C-Bill and i dont have the Time to play more then about 2 times the Week for about maybee 2 hours. A great way to get some mechs in the Bay, imho.

I Like Bundles and Packs, but i cant give an opinion an the Clan Mechs, sry.

[LauLiao]

Personally I'm waiting for C-bill versions. Went in on the Phoenix package, but couldn't find it in me to invest again while we're still waiting for CW.

[Ultimax]

There's not enough information for me to want to go all in on one of the upper end packages.

I also have zero interest in several of the lighter mechs like the Kit Fox.

I think you need to ask yourself, do I really need X amount of Mechs? Will I use them all?

Do I really need 8 Hero mechs and 16 variants?

If you do want them (the hero mechs) all and will, eventually, play them all (especially the hero mechs). It's probably a much better price than buying them ala carte once they are in the standard store.

Edited by Ultimatum X, 26 April 2014 - 09:24 AM.

[TimePeriod]

Stay as far away from any kind of shady deal with PGI.
NO CW = NO CASH. Period.

[Mystere]

TimePeriod, on 26 April 2014 - 09:26 AM, said:

Stay as far away from any kind of shady deal with PGI.
NO CW = NO CASH. Period.

Honor dictates that you also stop playing their game lest you be accused of hypocrisy. Are you an honorable person?

Edited by Mystere, 26 April 2014 - 09:34 AM.

[TimePeriod]

Mystere, on 26 April 2014 - 09:34 AM, said:

Honor dictates that you also stop playing their game lest you be accused of hypocrisy. Are you an honorable person?

I cannot be expected to uphold a code of honour if the opposition does not.
(Also, why are you follow me? I see your quotes on my posts many times)

[Bishop Steiner]

Iceman0427, on 26 April 2014 - 08:52 AM, said:

Hey there Mechwarriors! I kinda need your Advice, comments, suggestions, violent reaction too maybe?

This Pre-Order, We got the ala carte, the packages. I'm still undecided and I think it's almost to close. I could say it's really tempting to order but I really don't want to see my wallet and cry.


I want to know your long term if it's a buy or not.


If I'm going ala carte, which top 3 mechs are you going to buy?

Replies will be greatly appreciated!

Only reason to order "a la carte" would be if you REALLY wanted a "Hero/Founder version of a single mech (and it's 2 variants), like the TimberWolf or WarHawk, but did not want to play any of the lower tier mechs. If you want a WarHawk, for instance, but none for the rest, 55 bucks is a very much better price than 240, no matter how much else you get for it. Though it might be even better to simply wait for the Hero version of said mech, unless you just don't want to wait that long.

As for the packages themselves, whatever PGI has not done right, the packages have always delivered what was advertised, which has been good value. The A la Carte, not so enamored with, mostly because I don't get the reasoning where I should spend the exact same amount for 3 WarHawks (85 tons) as I do for 3 KitFoxes (30 tons)

[Mystere]

Iceman0427, on 26 April 2014 - 08:52 AM, said:

Hey there Mechwarriors! I kinda need your Advice, comments, suggestions, violent reaction too maybe?

This Pre-Order, We got the ala carte, the packages. I'm still undecided and I think it's almost to close. I could say it's really tempting to order but I really don't want to see my wallet and cry.

I want to know your long term if it's a buy or not.

If I'm going ala carte, which top 3 mechs are you going to buy?

Replies will be greatly appreciated!

Unless you're only interested in one or at most 2 mech chassis, you're better off getting a package rather than going à la carte.

As for going gold, the only reason I have not yet gotten a shiny mech is because I am waiting for more details on how Clan weapons will operate. I have a general plan on how to use a gold mech. But, Clan weapon details will tell me precisely which shiny to get.

[Cattra Kell]

Get what you see fit.

I would recommend the packages as a better deal for your dollar then the ala carte - but if I had to ala carte I would go:

Warhawk, MadCat and Daishi. May as well get the big boys.

[Bishop Steiner]

Mystere, on 26 April 2014 - 09:40 AM, said:

Unless you're only interested in one or at most 2 mech chassis, you're better off getting a package rather than going à la carte.

As for going gold, the only reason I have not yet gotten a shiny mech is because I am waiting for more details on how Clan weapons will operate. I have a general plan on how to use a gold mech. But, Clan weapon details will tell me precisely which shiny to get.

If they offered your choice of Metallic Paint, I might almost see the appeal. Having other people rolling in Gold Summoners would slow my roll though! (plus I wan't the classic "reflective" paint of old battletech lore, not BlingMachines....lol)

[Mystere]

TimePeriod, on 26 April 2014 - 09:36 AM, said:

I cannot be expected to uphold a code of honour if the opposition does not.

Honor of the highest order dictates that lack of honor on the opposition's part should not determine yours.

TimePeriod, on 26 April 2014 - 09:36 AM, said:

(Also, why are you follow me? I see your quotes on my posts many times)

I assure you it's not intentional and is entirely driven by what you say.

[Mystere]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 April 2014 - 09:42 AM, said:

If they offered your choice of Metallic Paint, I might almost see the appeal. Having other people rolling in Gold Summoners would slow my roll though! (plus I wan't the classic "reflective" paint of old battletech lore, not BlingMachines....lol)

Yep, metallic paint would be a lot more desirable. But alas ...

In any case, I'd really like to know which goldie would be the rarest of them all. There will be a good in-game use for such "exclusivity".

[Durant Carlyle]

With the Warhawk collection, you get 24 'Mechs (eight Heroes and 16 standard variants) and 24 'Mech Bays, plus 90 days of Premium Time, in addition to a whole bunch of extras, all for $240.

Let's break it down ... shall we?
90 days of Premium Time is 7,500 MC.
Mech Bays are 300 MC each. That's 7,200 MC.
Kit Fox Hero is 2,250 MC.
Adder Hero is 2,625 MC.
Nova Hero is 3,750 MC.
Stormcrow Hero is 4,125 MC
Summoner Hero is 5,250 MC.
Timber Wolf Hero is 5,625 MC.
Warhawk Hero is 6,375 MC.
Dire Wolf Hero is 7,500 MC.
Total of known stuff is 52,200 MC.

$200 gets you 50,000 MC, so we're already nearing the $240 package price just with the Premium Time, Mech Bays, and Hero-boosted 'Mechs. That doesn't include the MC cost of the 16 regular variants or the extras.

Granted, the boosted Prime variants aren't really Heroes with their own unique hardpoints, but the real Clan Heroes are likely to be more expensive than I.S. Heroes anyway. So, the Warhawk collection is a VERY good deal.

[Josef Nader]

If you're like me and you only get to play an hour or so a day, the packages are a great deal. They open up a huge variety of content right away, and you can simply focus on actually customizing and experimenting with your mechs. You also get a lot of nice bonuses.

I bought Founders and Phoenix, and I've been very happy with both.

I wouldn't go a LA carte. The package deals are much better bang for your buck

Edited by Josef Nader, 26 April 2014 - 10:06 AM.

[CCC Dober]

I can only speak for myself, but it's probably a good idea to go with Mechs that you like (helps to minimize buyer's remorse). Also, it has come to my attention that Clan Light Mechs are massively handicapped due to locked reactors, which is definitely something to keep in mind, if you are inclined to bag one. Personal favorites: Summoner, Timberwolf, Warhawk.

[RedDragon]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 April 2014 - 09:40 AM, said:

As for the packages themselves, whatever PGI has not done right, the packages have always delivered what was advertised, which has been good value. The A la Carte, not so enamored with, mostly because I don't get the reasoning where I should spend the exact same amount for 3 WarHawks (85 tons) as I do for 3 KitFoxes (30 tons)

In fact, we are still waiting for any sign of what those Faction Points do that were advertised with the Phoenix packs...

To the OP: From my side, it's a category "Don't buy anything!" With the Founder packs, we got a good deal of fun during closed beta and beyond, but in th end PGI used our money to make a game none of us really wanted. At least we got all we were promised. With the Phoenix packs, we didn't even get all that yet (see above), the game is subjectively worse now and there are still so many missing features that were promised long ago (CW...). But at least we purchased mechs of which we had an idea of how they would perform, what weapons they could pack etc.
Now with Clan packs? PGI is selling you the literal cat in the bag. We have no idea how they will perform (big chance PGI will ruin it), how they will fit into the game (IS and Clan mixed? If so, how?) or even how they will look (Timberwolf looks crappy IMO). Not to speak of those extra features even PGI doesn't know what they will do (hello Warhorns).
So please. Just don't buy anything, at least not until we/you know a good deal more about it. IMO the chances are about 80% that PGI will royally f**** it up and most people who bought the packs will be more than disappointed.

[Prezimonto]

Josef Nader, on 26 April 2014 - 09:54 AM, said:

If you're like me and you only get to play an hour or so a day, the packages are a great deal. They open up a huge variety of content right away, and you can simply focus on actually customizing and experimenting with your mechs. You also get a lot of nice bonuses.

I bought Founders and Phoenix, and I've been very happy with both.

Much like Josef, I've picked up two package previously, and they do help a lot with getting you into decent mechs quickly.

Personally, I don't think I'm going in on a another package, but honestly, I also don't really need more mechs to enjoy the game.

I'd look at it from a playstyle perspective unless you have a a HUGE favorite from the setting that's at the top end of cost (like the Warhawk or Timberwolf).

Do you prefer light/medium/heavy/assault mechs? If so what type of weapons/loadouts. Find a mech you like and pick up that mech. If it happens to be on the "lower" tier 4 mechs just get the package, with the goodies added they're not a bad value. If it's in the upper tier, you probably don't NEED 15+ mechs sitting in garage slots, most of which you'll never pilot. And that's a lot of more for a video game for many people.

[Bishop Steiner]

Durant Carlyle, on 26 April 2014 - 09:50 AM, said:

With the Warhawk collection, you get 24 'Mechs (eight Heroes and 16 standard variants) and 24 'Mech Bays, plus 90 days of Premium Time, in addition to a whole bunch of extras, all for $240.

Let's break it down ... shall we?
90 days of Premium Time is 7,500 MC.
Mech Bays are 300 MC each. That's 7,200 MC.
Kit Fox Hero is 2,250 MC.
Adder Hero is 2,625 MC.
Nova Hero is 3,750 MC.
Stormcrow Hero is 4,125 MC
Summoner Hero is 5,250 MC.
Timber Wolf Hero is 5,625 MC.
Warhawk Hero is 6,375 MC.
Dire Wolf Hero is 7,500 MC.
Total of known stuff is 52,200 MC.

$200 gets you 50,000 MC, so we're already nearing the $240 package price just with the Premium Time, Mech Bays, and Hero-boosted 'Mechs. That doesn't include the MC cost of the 16 regular variants or the extras.

Granted, the boosted Prime variants aren't really Heroes with their own unique hardpoints, but the real Clan Heroes are likely to be more expensive than I.S. Heroes anyway. So, the Warhawk collection is a VERY good deal.

Would also point out that is the going rate for Inner Sphere Heroes.
As we know the MC and CBill Prices of the Omnis will be higher to begin with,. I would conjecture that we will see a similar increase for Clan Heroes. I would not be shocked if a "WidowMaker" DireWolf was about 50 bucks.