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#61 -Natural Selection-

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 01:52 PM

View PostAbisha, on 29 April 2014 - 11:38 AM, said:


stop eating mushroom, it's makes zero sens at all.
you put in numbers based on what?, feeling? did you used the finger in the air tactics?.
basically it's based on nothing.

also you don't even know me, what can you say about my past or past of those 84%?.
only fact their is 84% of the player base launch MWO solo, meaning for whatever reason they prefers to play the game in a PuG.

I am putting numbers out based on the 80% of our group that has been playing for 15 years and STILL joins comms everyday but not to play MWO. So yes I stand by my numbers from the members of "our" group as stated. Also your reading comprehension may be in question as I said "SOME" of the 84 or 86% and gave no reference to you personally nor anyone else. So slow your roll hero, and actually take time to absorb the info before spewing nonsense.

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 01:55 PM

View Post1453 R, on 29 April 2014 - 10:33 AM, said:

Let me tell you!


Pretty much, yep! Either that or adhere to strict attendance requirements – that’s the real deal-breaker for a lot of folks. I can and have gone months at a time without playing MWO – can you think of a single group that’ll put up with a player not being around for longer than three consecutive days? I asked people if they would, once. Notice nobody took me up on it.



No, there really aren’t. There really, really, really aren’t. Name me one group that’d be all “Sure!” when I come back after a month-long GW2 binge and say “You know what? I’ve got an itch to run me some Durgan tonight, who wants to go and do that thing?”



No there isn’t. Every single team out there, EVERY FROGGING ONE, requires a time commitment that I am unwilling/unable to make. There is an hours-per-week requirement, or a drops-per-week, or a “be here for Saturday night gametime or you’re out.” I have other stuff to do, I have friends beyond MWO, and I will be danmed if I let some two-bit goose-stepping power tripper tell me that making my weekly drop schedule is more important.


Yep! And I understand and accept that I’m at a disadvantage when I drop solo against what may very well be a premade lance. I read the articles and guides on silent cooperation with PUGlies, and I do my best to be a valuable member of any given drop even without voice coordination or a prebuilt lance. I’m cool with it. If I’m cool with it, why shouldn’t you be cool with me being cool with it?



First of all, because the notion of dropping in a group alongside some of the people I see in the GD section of the forums makes me physically ill. Second of all, because the people I’d like to drop with – Koniving, Void Angel, Redshift, and others who make the Guides and New Player Help sections of the forums into the excellent and helpful community that GD most emphatically is not – are already busy dropping with their actual buddies, for which I do not even remotely blame them. Third of all, because the only guild I’ve ever found where I’m welcome to play when, where, and as I like doesn’t play MWO.



Optimistic much? There’s plenty of reasons why this statement is not nearly as true as you might like, but that’s a discussion for a different thread.



It’s not instinctive. It’s a highly practiced, well-thought-out, and quite thoroughly tested intense dislike of the gibbering bassholes who populate the forums, long experience with avoiding second-job “Here’s your schedule, here’s your kit, you get one sickday a month, and we’ll tell you what you’re doing Saturday night” competitive guilds/units/whatevers, and the knowledge that the ‘Mechs I love to run are ‘Mechs that would get me thrown out of any half-decent unit no matter how good I am with them.

Oh, also I was/am a total junkie for the Invasion and FedComm Civil War-era novels, wherein House Davion were the Good Guys, Katrina Steiner was the Bad Girl, Ulric Kerensky was a hero and Morgan Kell was a motherfrogging sorcerer until Katrina’s venomous, spiteful self had him poisoned on his flagship halfway to Strana Mechty. I grew up with those books. Victor Steiner-Davion, Kai Allard-Liao, and Phelan Kell were my childhood heroes. The very same characters, in the very same books, that all the old TT diehards claim Ruined BattleTech/MechWarrior FOREVER, and which they spit on with every ounce of spite and derision in their bones whilst exclusively flying the CapCon flag in protest (and never mind that Romano is even worse than Katrina is) and burning effigies of one of my favorite authors. So the lore-based units are just right out, aren’t they?

I play what I want, when I want, and with who I want. These three factors combine to ensure that there is not a single unit in the entirety of the greater MWO community which would take me, so why bother? I’ll just drop solo and take my lumps as I need to. It’s what I’ve done in every other MechWarrior game I’ve ever played.


Heh actually C4 is totally whenever whoever whatever.

#63 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 05:58 PM

BECAUSE I DON'T WANA!

Ok, really I go solo for a few reasons...

1. My friends no longer play so I can't drop with them anymore.

2. I like the lack of obligation to drop with a group every time I log in to the game. I was in a clan before for other games and I would have to log in on certain days to link up and play at certain times. Or if I wanted to play solo, I would get pestered to join up with the group.

3. I have pretty good luck solo. If I am doing well PUGing, I don't have a huge desire to team up.


I have nothing against playing in a group, and can see myself doing it in the future if it was with the right group of people, but i just don't feel an overwhelming need to do so.

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 07:29 PM

A few people have said similar things, but there are some reasons I tend to 100% pug this game...for one, I find it more challenging a lot of the time, which is fun to me. I also work the graveyard shift, so that means I can't really use TS3/Vent/Mumble - my fiancee is sleeping in the next room most of the time when I'm online, and if I play at work (I have an IT job with a lot of downtime waiting for computers to chirp at me), I can't use a headset there. This means I can't fit the usual voice chat requirements of most clans.

And one of the biggest reasons is the one I've never really fit into clans with: I play these games for fun. Sometimes, I can get really good...but although I like to win matches, I'm not really into competition for the sake of crushing other teams for some rewards (read: esports). That's where I tend not to fit in with a lot of groups...I don't care about winning some tournament. I'd rather just enjoy my time online and have some laughs, make a bunch of stupid jokes, and then log off randomly when I'm tired. Which, for some reason, irks people.

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 07:45 PM

View PostIhasa, on 29 April 2014 - 10:56 AM, said:

To 1453R - The unit I'm in, Comstar Irregulars has no play time requirements or restrictions even. We have students, professionals and all kinds of odd time players (we even have members from South Africa and Australia). We understand not everyone can play all day every day, and that's not our thing. We have casual players, casual/competitive players and competitive players. We have players that take months off at a time, and players that do play everyday (like me). We don't have k/d or w/l ratio restrictions either. In fact our only requirement is that you not be a douchebag. So I have to say to your disbelief of there being a unit for everyone's style, nonsense. There are hundreds of units, every one of them has their own flavor.

This, the house Marik website and server is just a casual as well. yes there are a few powerhouse units who do all the 12 man stuff but mostly we are just a bunch of players who prefer to group up with someone for a drop or two here and there. Sure there are regular groups but they aren't exclusive and there are even several merc units in with us to fill the ranks already.

Here's the kicker for you, we even have channels in our TS for... are you ready for this..... other games, yes. Guildwars2 is there, WoT is there, DDO is there, Planet Side 2 is there and a whole slew of other games.

I'm not dumping on anyone who pugs, it's your choice, but please do your homework before you try to lump all units under one umbrella.

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 07:59 PM

Can't be bothered to buy a decent mic, don't understand most western accents, don't have any friends on my side of the world who do play MWO let alone any games. Life in third world countries kinda sucks.

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 08:15 PM

Seems like a lot of players who purposely choose the solo life and don't complain about premades are jumping down the OP's throat, when they are not the ones the question is targeted at.

The question is targeted at those who complain about premades all the time, yet when given valid reasons for why they might want to actually join a unit, still don't do so.

If you drop solo on purpose and don't complain about premades, then go visit the next unread thread. Your answers just muddy the waters.

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And for those who think that all units are ultra-competitive and have draconian requirements, you're wrong. Most units have a casual roster where they couldn't care less if you show up once a month or even less often. If you want to be in their competitive groups, that's a totally different story.

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 08:41 PM

The community features in MWO don't support it. If I got an invite to join a team while I was playing, then sure, I would, but any team that's playing is already a 4, 5's is a no go, and even if they wanted to, they couldn't find me after a match.

Give me the ability to organically make friends and engage with them in the game. Then I'll join groups.

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 08:45 PM

I do not want to join a team for the same reason I bought a house that does not require me to belong to a homeowners association (HOA).

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 08:52 PM

I play solo and I like to think im pretty good (90% of the time im top 3, if not THE top) but mainly because I just havent wanted to hunt down a team to play with. Im not looking to talk alot, just basic commands/info. Just seems easier to play solo then try to find a group that is on when I am.

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 09:37 PM

the moment this game has recomendations for logon and play and not lookup guilds units forums and TS is the moment it's worth forming teams for the common man.

now though be a l33t junkie/derp pug or go home.

#72 Abisha

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 09:52 PM

View PostDozier, on 29 April 2014 - 01:52 PM, said:

I am putting numbers out based on the 80% of our group that has been playing for 15 years and STILL joins comms everyday but not to play MWO. So yes I stand by my numbers from the members of "our" group as stated. Also your reading comprehension may be in question as I said "SOME" of the 84 or 86% and gave no reference to you personally nor anyone else. So slow your roll hero, and actually take time to absorb the info before spewing nonsense.


what exactly have it got to do with "mechwarrior Online"?.
here is a other useless fact, 40% of all gamers are Female, their now when you join a PuG at least 4 of them are female.
yea right!!!.....

keep it to the subject, that what is MWO or go home.

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 10:05 PM

View PostPsydotek, on 29 April 2014 - 08:45 PM, said:

I do not want to join a team for the same reason I bought a house that does not require me to belong to a homeowners association (HOA).


You don't want people in a unit charging you monthly dues and telling you what color you can paint your mech?

#74 James DeGriz

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 10:13 PM

Q:Why Don't You Want to Join A Team?

A: Because I don't want to.

No further explanation is required.

#75 Lyoto Machida

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 10:21 PM

View PostAbisha, on 29 April 2014 - 10:51 AM, said:

because the 84% like to play MWO in PuG.
also wanna add if i notice a more Premades, i will stop supporting MWO financial
that's around 60 to 85$ a month.


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Btw, I love your posts, Abisha...please don't ever stop posting.

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 10:46 PM

Team play
there is some people I know in RL I like to play with and speak during the play, but team play is always there, supporting the guy/girl next to me so we can live little longer and to have fun little longer, I really do not to speak with them, I just need to suport their action in game, and to expect that they will support my action as well.

#77 Grayblue

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 03:34 AM

As if I don't have enough things that demand commitment in my life already.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 03:51 AM

View PostRonyn, on 29 April 2014 - 10:24 AM, said:

Simple answer... Because we are not you...

People have their own lives, their own responsibilities and above all, their own preferences on how to do the things they enjoy.
I prefer to play in 30 minute to 2 hour stints, sometimes a 'planned' 2 hour stint turns into me being forced to log off in 10 minutes.
And above all, not everyone likes to commit to the 'absorption' of video games. The fully immersed feeling of virtual reality. I like being fully immersed in life, I play games to allow a break from that immersion.
I'm cool with your play style, please respect mine the way I respect yours.

Well if you were/are in the Military, You'd find the Law is completely understanding about Life, the Universe & Everything. Heck we have a member who is On comms talking with us while at work more than he ever has time to drop with us. Guys will drop twice and leave for class. Not all groups are slave driving taskmasters. I get on Comms maybe twice a week if that.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 30 April 2014 - 03:51 AM.


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Posted 30 April 2014 - 04:05 AM

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#80 Aym

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 05:26 AM

View PostAbisha, on 29 April 2014 - 11:38 AM, said:

only fact their is 84% of the player base launch MWO solo, meaning for whatever reason they prefers to play the game in a PuG.

Except the conclusion you've drawn from the numbers presented is in no way a "fact." It's why you do solo, but there actual evidence in my thread listing reasons that people solo drop to make up that funny 84 percent number. Preferring to drop solo only is not one of the more common responses.





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