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#1 baabaa214

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 04:32 AM

Have taken a break for a while; but here a new render.

Sentry.

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#2 GonaDie

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 05:01 AM

Nice one! I really like the arms.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 09:55 AM

Nice, though is the scale of the mech to building a little off? Cataphract (MWO style) is around 14 meters? (Probably be closer on at TT scale, where it would be 10-11 meters, which would put it as tall as a 2 story building)

Eh. Probably overthinking stuff again.

#4 baabaa214

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 04:41 PM

This is what used to scale the building and the mech.
which the Catapult and Cataphract are about 3 floors high.

Building:
http://www.ctbuh.org...GB/Default.aspx

Mechs:
http://s290.photobuc...5e8bc1.jpg.html

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 06:28 PM

Might be because he's standing in the foreground, but yeah, he looks too small.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 06:32 PM

View Postbaabaa214, on 03 May 2014 - 04:41 PM, said:

This is what used to scale the building and the mech.
which the Catapult and Cataphract are about 3 floors high.

Building:
http://www.ctbuh.org...GB/Default.aspx

Mechs:
http://s290.photobuc...5e8bc1.jpg.html

I know that mechscale well, i made it (with work from Tennex and a couple others). Cataphract is 15.6 meters. If I read the Building chart right, the Lobby/1rst Floor is about 4.65meters? And as a Hotel, each successive floor covers 3.1 meters (or 10 ft)?so the top of the 4th floor should be about 13.95 meters, and the Cataphract should top out about midway into the 5th story? I know the calculator on it says tops of the 3rd is 17 meters....seems a discrepancy somewhere between that and the measurements listed on the first page of the link. Interesting.

R4 code of this city planning guide seems to be in line with what is listed in your link....
http://www.parracity...binedHeight.pdf
yet not what the calculator on your link gives.

View Postzagibu, on 03 May 2014 - 06:28 PM, said:

Might be because he's standing in the foreground, but yeah, he looks too small.

Well, he is in the foreground, but we're talking basically horse tied to the rail, foreground, not enough to make a large perspective discrepancy. And TBH, part of what is throwing me is the width of the windows, maybe they are making the building seem deceptively short?

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 03 May 2014 - 06:39 PM.


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 06:46 PM

Ah, I think I see part of the discrepancy, it factors an additional 6.2 meters Small building be closer to 4 meters) for the roof mechanical system, parapets, etc..... this should not factor into the floor height, but rather essentially is tacked onto the top of the 4.65m Lobby, and each floor being 3.1 meters. Remove the 6.2 meters for the roof stuff, and that brings you to the top of the actual 5th floor reaching 17.3 meters, approximately, and the 4th floor would 14.2 meters, as I had thought. So yes, on a "average" building, using this guide, the Cataphract should indeed reach part way to into the 5th floor space.

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Edited by Bishop Steiner, 03 May 2014 - 07:36 PM.


#8 Mirenheart

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 10:27 PM

I really like this. The way it's rendered reminds me very much of Fallout 1 and 2.

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 01:17 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 03 May 2014 - 06:46 PM, said:

Ah, I think I see part of the discrepancy, it factors an additional 6.2 meters Small building be closer to 4 meters) for the roof mechanical system, parapets, etc..... this should not factor into the floor height, but rather essentially is tacked onto the top of the 4.65m Lobby, and each floor being 3.1 meters. Remove the 6.2 meters for the roof stuff, and that brings you to the top of the actual 5th floor reaching 17.3 meters, approximately, and the 4th floor would 14.2 meters, as I had thought. So yes, on a "average" building, using this guide, the Cataphract should indeed reach part way to into the 5th floor space.

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Very good information.

Could you get the scale of all mechs for me?

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 01:20 PM

View Postbaabaa214, on 05 May 2014 - 01:17 PM, said:



Very good information.

Could you get the scale of all mechs for me?

Tennex actually pulled the ingame models. I could probably get approximations, as the mechs in the Mechñlab are in scale to one another (I believe) and kind of fill in the blanks, but it would take some time. Probably be best off just figuring out individual ones as you need them? I think that list was last updated after the Stalker release, and then they banned Tennex for speaking up about The Devs beings idiots on some thing or another.

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 04:23 AM

lol

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 06:52 AM

View Postbaabaa214, on 03 May 2014 - 04:32 AM, said:

Have taken a break for a while; but here a new render.

Sentry.

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Impressive… that looks really good! It's so life like.

#13 baabaa214

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:59 AM

It looks like the mechs are about 1m (3ft).
Going through the Mechs and addressing the size change.

#14 baabaa214

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 09:41 AM

looks like the big and the little guys were ok but the ones in the middle were off.

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 09:48 AM

very good job, you treated the cataphracts well





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