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#21 CHH Badkarma

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 02:59 PM

View PostDaneiel, on 05 May 2014 - 02:54 PM, said:

I think the the missile rack is at wrong place at all - the Warhawk missile pod was on the shoulder . The cockpit also looks odd - like the pilot will take sunbaths - huge glass at 45 degrees toward the sky and the rim pass just in the front of the front line of sight ! At least the legs look better then the TimberWolf .


even in the 3050 technical readout it lists the missile launcher as being on the arm. it just happens to show it on the torso. personally, those LRM's are rather pointless. I would rather use another arms off a different machine to just have 4 ERPPCs and work some thing else out with the saved weight.

Edited by CHH Badkarma, 05 May 2014 - 02:59 PM.


#22 Hawk819

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 02:59 PM

The only Clan `Mech I have left to purchase, and, she looks awesome! I love it.

#23 Rofl

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 03:01 PM

No mention of the Targeting Computer? Is it going to be like the DDC and just have a 4-ton, 4-crit piece of hardware you remove from the Right Torso?

#24 Pyrrho

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 03:02 PM

Got it; aim for the arms.

#25 Daneiel

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 03:02 PM

View PostCHH Badkarma, on 05 May 2014 - 02:59 PM, said:


even in the 3050 technical readout it lists the missile launcher as being on the arm. it just happens to show it on the torso. personally, those LRM's are rather pointless. I would rather use another arms off a different machine to just have 4 ERPPCs and work some thing else out with the saved weight.

I sayed on the shoulder not at the side torso :) .

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 03:03 PM

Dang. You put the LRM on the arm (canonical), so it looks like an ammo clip from a gun on that arm. I wish they did the side torso mount like you see in most photos.

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Edited by ShadowVFX, 05 May 2014 - 03:03 PM.


#27 Pariah Devalis

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 03:05 PM

I do wish the LRM was bolted either on the top of the arm or the side of the "hand," as it seems like an odd place to put an LRM system. However.... Now I am itching to unleash particle cannon hell on my targets. Even been practicing my ERPPC work in anticipation for this beautiful monster.

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 03:05 PM

View PostDaneiel, on 05 May 2014 - 02:54 PM, said:

I think the the missile rack is at wrong place at all - the Warhawk missile pod was on the shoulder . The cockpit also looks odd - like the pilot will take sunbaths - huge glass at 45 degrees toward the sky and the rim pass just in the front of the front line of sight ! At least the legs look better then the TimberWolf .

Agree. The rack should be at the very least above the arms. All the previous incarnations put it much closer to the torso.

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 03:05 PM

View PostShadowVFX, on 05 May 2014 - 03:03 PM, said:

Dang. You put the LRM on the arm (canonical), so it looks like an ammo clip from a gun on that arm. I wish they did the side torso mount like you see in most photos.


Wrong - on the shoulder not at the side torso

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P.S. But the missile pod is not the problem as BK noted , the cockpit is .

Edited by Daneiel, 05 May 2014 - 03:07 PM.


#30 Malcolm Vordermark

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 03:06 PM

Lookin' good. I'm thinking because of the speed this will be more common than my beloved Dire Wolf.

#31 Smudge504

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 03:06 PM

I think a little wee just came out! really cannot wait to drive that puppy! altho it would be really nice to know the performance of the clan weapons against the IS partners

#32 CHH Badkarma

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 03:07 PM

View PostDaneiel, on 05 May 2014 - 03:02 PM, said:

I sayed on the shoulder not at the side torso :) .


Not listed on either location. ^_^

that being said, the arms could be beefed up. Overall the chassis looks like it was not fed properly for over a week and lost weight.

Edited by CHH Badkarma, 05 May 2014 - 03:09 PM.


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Posted 05 May 2014 - 03:18 PM

Looks good. But that missile pod...

I'd mount it on the exterior of the left arm instead, or have a horizontal launcher mounted on the bottom of the arm. That thing looks as tacked on as can be as if to intentionally increase the size of the arm hitbox.

View PostCHH Badkarma, on 05 May 2014 - 03:07 PM, said:

that being said, the arms could be beefed up. Overall the chassis looks like it was not fed properly for over a week and lost weight.


Ironically every other mech has received "LIMBS TOO FAT" critiques. :)

View PostShadowVFX, on 05 May 2014 - 03:03 PM, said:

Dang. You put the LRM on the arm (canonical), so it looks like an ammo clip from a gun on that arm. I wish they did the side torso mount like you see in most photos.

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To be fair, I can see that as both a problem and something that could be worked around.

For example, if the SRMs mounted up there you wouldn't be able to aim them.
But, nothing says that PGI can't put it up there for LRMs and under (preferably on the side of) the arm for SRMs/Streaks/etc. That's what I would have done if I were designing this.

Alternatively, I would have straddled the launchers around the arms. Like the bottom rack here, or the side, or the top.
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Edited by Koniving, 05 May 2014 - 03:22 PM.


#34 DirePhoenix

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 03:19 PM

View PostShadowVFX, on 05 May 2014 - 03:03 PM, said:

Dang. You put the LRM on the arm (canonical), so it looks like an ammo clip from a gun on that arm. I wish they did the side torso mount like you see in most photos.

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Arm weapons in MWO have to be placed on the lower arm (on mechs that have lower arm actuators) because they have to move to point in the same direction that the arms are pointing. Now, could the missile launcher have been placed along the outside of the lower arm instead of hanging below it? Probably. But no upper-arm mounted weapons.

EDIT: Also, if they made the geometry for the 3D model to look exactly as the 'canon' TT sourcebook images, they might as well remove the lower arm actuators because that thing wouldn't be able to move its arms on a horizontal axis.

Edited by DirePhoenix, 05 May 2014 - 03:23 PM.


#35 Kodiak Jorgensson

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 03:20 PM

can we get these in a higher resolution? previous reveals where higher res and id love to have this as my new dekstop :)

#36 juxstapo

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 03:22 PM

Hmm.. a slow, non-jumping assault...


with a Blackjack's cockpit.


I miiiight be able to get comfy in one of these. :)

#37 FallenFactol

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 03:23 PM

Oh, pretty. I have to say besides the Timberwolf, PGI has done an excellent job bringing these 'mechs to life.

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 03:24 PM

I expected the torso to have a sharper look. It's like the torso is taller that it should be.

Maybe it's just the angles.

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 03:24 PM

Hate the missile hardpoint. Fix it to look like this please:
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Posted 05 May 2014 - 03:28 PM

Something about this looks... off.

It's too chunky for starters. Upper torso is too large, arms too wide, and legs too fat and short. Has the opposite problem of the Timber Wolf, in other words.

and is missing the extra hump above the "hood". Said hood is too thick and too high above the cockpit, as well.

It will be so easy to neuter this mech by shooting off its oversized arms which contain pretty much ALL the weapons. I may stop at the Storm Crow package now.

Dire Wolf will do everything this does, better.

So far PGI is batting 50% on their redesigns. The heavies aren't turning out so well.

Edited by 5th Fedcom Rat, 05 May 2014 - 03:55 PM.






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