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#301 William Knight

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 04:56 PM

No ELP, and we were so looking forward to this too. :D

#302 Aym

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 04:57 PM

Looks like they might of used the Elo ratings of the registered players on a team to make the brackets. If so, well, we can place our bets on the winners of 4 of the first 16 brackets being the semi finalists, but good show none the less.

#303 Atkins0n

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 04:57 PM

View PostEglar, on 13 May 2014 - 04:51 PM, said:

afaik CSJ is HoL #2
yea and?

#304 Atkins0n

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 05:01 PM

View PostcSand, on 13 May 2014 - 04:59 PM, said:


So some clans have 2 teams in there even?


Toyotally awesome, brah


Yea Eglar are you saying HoL found a way past the system on which teams were not picked due to alrdy having a team in the tourney alrdy?

#305 Domoneky

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 05:21 PM

why are we discussing something that PGI created when we should be doing our jobs (Which is to shut this game down) and raging and QQ'ing? Stop this nonsense and get back to raging! GET. BACK. NOW.

Spoiler

Edited by Domoneky, 13 May 2014 - 05:27 PM.


#306 JohnnyBlue07

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 05:27 PM

Gl hf o7 from NStalkers.com to those teams that were chosen.

#307 Stealth Raptor

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 05:32 PM

View PostNikolai Lubkiewicz, on 13 May 2014 - 05:25 PM, said:


It is important to note that this is the first official tournament of this variety which we have implemented, as well as being in BETA as a feature. As such, the tournament should be regarded as unranked. Seeding for this round was aimed at fairly matching each team by overall ELO within the first bracket. We are eager to investigate the many possibilities of how to arrange future tournaments with both existing data (ELO/KDR/WLR) and new data from this event, as well as ways to organize a ranking/seeding system. Ideally, any such system would be both fair to the teams and fun for those cheering from the sidelines. Your thoughts will be greatly appreciated on this particular matter, as future tournaments will be less about testing systems and more about just having fun.



i would like to point out that there is a flaw with how you seeded. im gonna be quoting standard bracket theory here. you do not seed like skilled teams first round. you want them to be in the last round. for a brief example, for a 16 man bracket seeded 1 through 16, the first round matchups should be 1v16, 2v15, 3v14, etc down to 7 vs 10 and 8 vs 9. you guys did the equivilant of 1 vs 2, 3 vs 4, 5 vs 6, etc. this will create a mismatch in how the end results are gonna look. right now the 1 vs 2 and 3 vs 4 matchups are really lame. while they may be interesting first round matches, you have basically said 2 of the best 4 teams have no chance of making it past the first round, so they cant even place at that respective level. obviously you cant change that now, but you might want to look at proper seeding for future tourneys :D

#308 Jamie4red

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 05:43 PM

Hey STEALTH!

#309 SkkyHigh

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 05:50 PM

GL Teams.

PGI you know what I want to say to you......

LAMP OFF!

#310 cSand

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 06:17 PM

You think there will be a tournament for the average, have jobs n stuff players one day PGI?

I am forseeing now that groups that aren't "pros" will pretty much never get a chance to play in these sorts of things. Same bunch clans dropping a group or 2 or 3 into every tourney

edit: I'm not all bent cause we didn't get in, just an honest question

Edited by cSand, 13 May 2014 - 06:25 PM.


#311 Faith McCarron

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 06:34 PM

Just curious, if some 15-man teams were left out because their unit was already represented, how did House of Lords get 2 teams in the tourney??? (team Clan Smoke Jaguar is stacked with Lords)

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 06:48 PM

View PostFaith McCarron, on 13 May 2014 - 06:34 PM, said:

Just curious, if some 15-man teams were left out because their unit was already represented, how did House of Lords get 2 teams in the tourney??? (team Clan Smoke Jaguar is stacked with Lords)

Just out of curiosity, how do you know that?

Edit: Just found it - the spoiler in Niko's post.

Edited by DEMAX51, 13 May 2014 - 06:56 PM.


#313 Edward Mattlov

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 07:45 PM

View PostcSand, on 13 May 2014 - 06:17 PM, said:

You think there will be a tournament for the average, have jobs n stuff players one day PGI?

I am forseeing now that groups that aren't "pros" will pretty much never get a chance to play in these sorts of things. Same bunch clans dropping a group or 2 or 3 into every tourney

edit: I'm not all bent cause we didn't get in, just an honest question


Anyone can start their own ladder tournament using private matches and get people to pay in for the prizes (that part may be hard to work out though).

#314 TygerLily

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 07:45 PM

Good luck teams! Sorry I won't be bothering to follow the poptart live stream! xD But good luck winning Hero Mechs nonetheless!

#315 unFearing

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 08:04 PM

niko you have every team's roster doubled in your spoiler post ^^; if only we could field clones of ourselves!

Edited by unFearing, 13 May 2014 - 08:04 PM.


#316 Chavette

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 08:26 PM

Feedback: BO1 AND no loser's bracket is not good. Make it BO3 or at least have losers bracket. BO3 for semi and finals is a MUST.


View PostFaith McCarron, on 13 May 2014 - 06:34 PM, said:

Just curious, if some 15-man teams were left out because their unit was already represented, how did House of Lords get 2 teams in the tourney??? (team Clan Smoke Jaguar is stacked with Lords)

HoL isn't a clan/guild/group. HoL is a teamspeak based community. Many lords have their own team at the same time, like Ignotus, others are freelance pilots.

Edited by Chavette, 13 May 2014 - 08:41 PM.


#317 IIIuminaughty

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 09:04 PM

Good luck all :)

#318 Robin Wolf

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 10:44 PM

Italy's got 2 teams in, go go go go! :)

#319 Eglar

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 10:54 PM

Well, here's the teams roosters in a formated manner:
https://docs.google....p=sharing#gid=0

#320 PhoenixFire55

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 01:59 AM

View PostStealth Raptor, on 13 May 2014 - 05:32 PM, said:

i would like to point out that there is a flaw with how you seeded. im gonna be quoting standard bracket theory here. you do not seed like skilled teams first round. you want them to be in the last round.


Working as intendedTM. Just like the matchmaker that puts high-Elo meta 4-mans vs casual LOL-build 4-mans.

On a serious note ... yeah, some favorites playing each other in the first round - lame. But ... if you want to win it all you'll have to win vs any team anyway, so why it matters if its first round or last round?

Regardless, got a lot of friends playing in this, so best of luck guys and gals.





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