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[Joseph Mallan]

Jherek C, on 09 May 2014 - 08:05 AM, said:

That was also totally not my topic. I won't repeat myself again here...



Who knows how many are complaining. And how many would like a proper lobby, chat and socialisation features.

Well I would guess not enough to get PGI Off their laurels since it hasn't happened yet.

[Raggedyman]

Jherek C, on 09 May 2014 - 01:00 AM, said:

I am NOT complaining about losing games at all. I am complaining about how I win OR lose games. If I win with my team, I mostly win 1-3/12 the same goes for losing. You either stomp or be stomped.

Yes, because losing a mech isn't a simple linear advantage, it's an expodential advantage.

If you go from 12 v 12 to 12 v 11 your Team A v Team B ratio moves from 1 to 1.09 (+0.09 "edge"), if you go from there to 12 v 10 it moves from 1.09 to 1.2 (+0.11 "edge" on 12 v 11). One more kill an the edge is at 1.33, (+1.3 on 12v10). You don't gain one unit of edge per kill, you gain a growing amount per kill that gets bigger with each kill. As soon as a team is more than one kill ahead of the other team (12v10 or 11v9 or 10v8 etc) it's "stomp time" and you are far less likely to get a 'balanced' result.

The "balance" you are after is only going to happen if you meet in the middle, one mech vs one mech, at the start as that quickly takes you down to the 6v6 levels needed for a less stompy match with less 1v+1 situations. Anything else is going to result in edged/unbalanced engagements happneing where a mech gets blown up and the stomp begins. This is why the ball-of-death / not splitting from your group works well (your team either has the advantage in the engagements or meets a balanced force) and why freewill in PUG games is just so damn inconvenient.

TL:DR first kills give you an edge and PUGs are always going to be more stompy than team on team as people aren't working together so that edge becomes bigger quicker.

[maniacos]

Raggedyman, on 09 May 2014 - 08:52 AM, said:

TL:DR first kills give you an edge and PUGs are always going to be more stompy than team on team as people aren't working together so that edge becomes bigger quicker.

I had alot of games, that been won 1:12 where the 1 was the first kill. This means nothing.

[MrZakalwe]

You see I find a different problem with matchmaking- I'm a rubbish player with bad mechs (my main mech is a 4 ppc Stalker- that should tell you how bad my mechs are) but still get matched up against Villz and other folks who I'm sure have an astronomically higher elo.

It's mike matchmaking just picks at random.

[Joseph Mallan]

MrZakalwe, on 10 May 2014 - 08:37 AM, said:

You see I find a different problem with matchmaking- I'm a rubbish player with bad mechs (my main mech is a 4 ppc Stalker- that should tell you how bad my mechs are) but still get matched up against Villz and other folks who I'm sure have an astronomically higher elo.

It's mike matchmaking just picks at random.

How come you get lucky like that and I don't??? What time are you on line at!?

[MrZakalwe]

Joseph Mallan, on 10 May 2014 - 08:48 AM, said:

How come you get lucky like that and I don't??? What time are you on line at!?

All sorts over the weekend.

If it helps I also get matched with players in trial mechs who haven't learned to steer round buildings (there I greet as equals in skill).

[Joseph Mallan]

Jherek C, on 10 May 2014 - 08:27 AM, said:

I had alot of games, that been won 1:12 where the 1 was the first kill. This means nothing.

First kill gives an advantage nothing more, If you squander it is the key.

MrZakalwe, on 10 May 2014 - 08:53 AM, said:

All sorts over the weekend.

If it helps I also get matched with players in trial mechs who haven't learned to steer round buildings (there I greet as equals in skill).

I never seem to get matched with the "Named Ones", I wanna see their skills in game not on U Tube. I wanna feel how much better than me they are or to see I am not that far behind. Which ever the case may be.

[maniacos]

Joseph Mallan, on 10 May 2014 - 08:59 AM, said:

First kill gives an advantage nothing more, If you squander it is the key.

It says nothing.

[Joseph Mallan]

Jherek C, on 10 May 2014 - 09:35 AM, said:

It says nothing.

Then you are lost.