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[117shadowmaster]

Hi im new to this game, could i ask your opinion on what i could do to get better fps on my game, im getting 20 and it stutters from +/- 3-5.


]this is my current build on my laptop.

Processor AMD A8-4500M APU with Radeon™ HD Graphics Manufacturer AMD Speed 1.9 GHz Number of Cores 4'
Family 15 Model 10 Stepping 1 Revision
Video Card AMD Radeon HD 7640G
Manufacturer ATI Chipset AMD Radeon HD 7640G Dedicated Memory 512 MB
Total Memory 2.0 GB
Pixel Shader Version 5.0 Vertex Shader Version 5.0
Hardware T & L Yes Vendor ID 1002 Device ID 9903 Plug and Play ID VEN_1002&DEV_9903&SUBSYS_FB281179&REV_00 Driver Version 13.151.0.0
Memory RAM 3.6 GB
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8 (build 9200), 64-bit Service Pack 0 Size 64 Bit Edition Basic Version 6.2.9200 Locale 0409 BIOS 6.40 Version Insyde Corp. 6.40 Manufacturer Insyde Corp. Date Display Maximum Resolution 1366 x 768
anythin would do, be it more ram, or a better graphics card or what, im soo lost. i need help on this. please and thank you

Edited by 117shadowmaster, 08 May 2014 - 05:56 PM.

[Dark DeLaurel]

On low you might be able to pull it off, the A8 is a fairly weak CPU. Even adding in a dedicated video card would help out a lot. In the end download and try the game out and start adjusting settings until it is playable for you.

[Koniving]

Do me a favor. Right click "Computer" if you can find it, and then properties.
Use that info for me, if you could. 3.6 gigs ram is a very odd number.

[117shadowmaster]

Koniving, on 08 May 2014 - 06:04 PM, said:

Do me a favor. Right click "Computer" if you can find it, and then properties.
Use that info for me, if you could. 3.6 gigs ram is a very odd number.

my computer has 4gb of ram, but only uses 3.6 for some reason. i have played the game and on low i can play it, and i get around 18-22 fps. i run a centurian, and i get any where from 150-250 dmg per match, due to the low fps i die rather quickly cause i cant aim well

[Void Angel]

Maybe he has bad sectors on the DIMMs? I remember I used to have an old computer where it wasn't detecting all of my RAM.

[Wintersdark]

Koniving, on 08 May 2014 - 06:04 PM, said:

Do me a favor. Right click "Computer" if you can find it, and then properties.
Use that info for me, if you could. 3.6 gigs ram is a very odd number.

Prolly due to shared video ram.

Edited by Wintersdark, 08 May 2014 - 06:11 PM.

[Void Angel]

If you can't aim well because of your machine, it's not good enough to play this game =( MWO is really hard on computers, unfortunately. I'd guess that your RAM is the choke point, but my expertise is very out of date, so you'd want to check with Kon or someone else for a definitive answer.

His information says "dedicated RAM" on the video card... but that could be "dedicated" out of his general RAM. Lemme actually do some research...

Yep, according to the websites I checked, it doesn't come with its own RAM - which is bad, because GPU RAM is significantly faster than general-purpose RAM. It's because it doesn't have to deal with as many instructions in its instruction set. Anyway, any time you buy a computer, you want to check for that; it makes a HUGE difference in gaming performance.

[117shadowmaster]

Void Angel, on 08 May 2014 - 06:12 PM, said:

If you can't aim well because of your machine, it's not good enough to play this game =( MWO is really hard on computers, unfortunately. I'd guess that your RAM is the choke point, but my expertise is very out of date, so you'd want to check with Kon or someone else for a definitive answer.

thanks, i was gonna get a quick 2gbs of ram and put it in, to see if the aiming is due to my computer being under the 4gb ram mark...and any way it will also help to give my computer a litte more breathing room.

i am playing on a laptop, not a desktop, im surprised it even runs at all lol.
my laptop runs hawken on medium settings, deus ex: human revolution on ultra settings with 30fps no problem.

[Dark DeLaurel]

Ya for how the A8 is setup it pulls it's memory from system memory, thus creating the odd amount displayed. My HTPC does the same thing but it's an A10 with a lot more RAM (it was in sale lol).

The being a laptop which make and model? Also for upgrades to to www.crucial.com as they have a tool to scan your system and let you know what can be upgraded.

[117shadowmaster]

Dark DeLaurel, on 08 May 2014 - 06:21 PM, said:

Ya for how the A8 is setup it pulls it's memory from system memory, thus creating the odd amount displayed. My HTPC does the same thing but it's an A10 with a lot more RAM (it was in sale lol).

The being a laptop which make and model? Also for upgrades to to www.crucial.com as they have a tool to scan your system and let you know what can be upgraded.

i only paid 400 for my computer so im happy it can do so much any way
thanks for the help guys,,,so what im gonna do is get around 2-4 more gigs of ram and see if that helps, which it could correct?

[Koniving]

The Radeon card sounds more than good enough, but you are seriously lacking on ram. I'm personally running 16, but 8 should be plenty to run quite a bit better than you are now.

It's an intergrated card, which means laptop? Hope not, that's gonna make things hard.

Edited by Koniving, 08 May 2014 - 06:25 PM.

[Void Angel]

Well, if it runs other modern games well, you might get more results out of more RAM. I really don't know any more - been a long time since I used to sell computer components, but it's what I'd do. Shared video memory is a generally Bad Thing, but it's more common on laptops, where space is at a premium, and it's harder to cool a large GPU with its own RAM.

Anyway, see above. =)

[117shadowmaster]

Dark DeLaurel, on 08 May 2014 - 06:21 PM, said:

Ya for how the A8 is setup it pulls it's memory from system memory, thus creating the odd amount displayed. My HTPC does the same thing but it's an A10 with a lot more RAM (it was in sale lol).

The being a laptop which make and model? Also for upgrades to to www.crucial.com as they have a tool to scan your system and let you know what can be upgraded.

its a toshiba sattelite L855D-S5117

[Wintersdark]

Koniving, on 08 May 2014 - 06:23 PM, said:

The Radeon card sounds more than good enough, but you are seriously lacking on ram. I'm personally running 16, but 8 should be plenty to run quite a bit better than you are now.

It's an intergrated card, which means laptop? Hope not, that's gonna make things hard.

Beyond 8 isn't going to make any difference in MWO, unless you're running a lot of other stuff on your system too (such as video capture, which I know you do). For an average player though, not running other things at the same time, 4GB will get you acceptable performance, 8 will be the most that will impact gameplay.

In the OP's circumstance, his performance will be CPU bottlenecked. The APU's suffer from splitting memory bandwidth between the CPU/system ram and GPU/video ram, so this is going to hurt him even more. More RAM isn't really going to impact his performance much at all.

The reality is there's not a lot he can do to improve performance with that setup, unless he can replace the APU (if it's a laptop, don't bother, if it's a desktop he could likely get a snazzier A10 to pop in there and get more respectable performance... Though still with the same limitations due to memory bandwidth.

Aha, a Sattelite, so a laptop. Thus, no CPU upgrade.

Given that, I'd not bother investing any sort of money into the system, and instead just save for something more capable.

Edited by Wintersdark, 08 May 2014 - 06:31 PM.

[Koniving]

It'll be a good work/class laptop and a good hand-me-down to give someone for their first laptop later on.

So long as it's running though you'll be able to play. Might advise sticking to slower mechs for now, missile mechs don't get any impact from slow computers (the LRM ones). The less you move the better the frames most likely.

[117shadowmaster]

Koniving, on 08 May 2014 - 06:33 PM, said:

It'll be a good work/class laptop and a good hand-me-down to give someone for their first laptop later on.

So long as it's running though you'll be able to play. Might advise sticking to slower mechs for now, missile mechs don't get any impact from slow computers (the LRM ones). The less you move the better the frames most likely.

im running a centurian, with an ac10 and 2 medium lasers, endo steel and a 260 standard engine. im getting a few kills and its bareable to play, cause i love this game soo much...im saving up ti get either an atlas, or a jagermech so i can have an ac20

[Dark DeLaurel]

According to here http://www.crucial.c...7-upgrades.html you can put more RAM in but it is not really worth it. Use the money to save up for a something better for now. As pointed out the A8 just doesn't fair well for Crytek games. As much as I hate to tell people stuff like this MWO does require a fairly good system. If interested I could spec a machine that should play the game for 800 and everything else under the sun, but that would just be tower no keyboard and mouse (use TV for monitor).

[117shadowmaster]

Dark DeLaurel, on 08 May 2014 - 06:40 PM, said:

According to here http://www.crucial.c...7-upgrades.html you can put more RAM in but it is not really worth it. Use the money to save up for a something better for now. As pointed out the A8 just doesn't fair well for Crytek games. As much as I hate to tell people stuff like this MWO does require a fairly good system. If interested I could spec a machine that should play the game for 800 and everything else under the sun, but that would just be tower no keyboard and mouse (use TV for monitor).

im kind of low on funds for now, i just got fired. i already have a mouse and keyboard and a monitor. this laptop was supposed to be for school, but it just happened to have just enough specs to play some pretty ok games.

[Votanin FleshRender]

Go to a website called 'canIrunit' I think it's called. It should be able to tell ya

[Koniving]

117shadowmaster, on 08 May 2014 - 06:46 PM, said:

im kind of low on funds for now, i just got fired. i already have a mouse and keyboard and a monitor. this laptop was supposed to be for school, but it just happened to have just enough specs to play some pretty ok games.

Long as it's bearable. But the game is a LOT better when you can enjoy the graphics.

As examples.

Spoiler

My Banshee.


What I'm shooting at.




On the left, Koniving's Misery. On the right, someone's Jester. This was a live fight and despite the perfect nature of this shot I was face hugging the Jester so its shots couldn't focus me while I pumped my SRMs, small and small pulse lasers and AC/5 into it.

And it worked, the Jester had a hard time keeping its lasers on me.


Just a little more..


This is the only one that's not me. But it looks too good not to share.


Check out loads of them on Lordred's perfect shot thread.

Edited by Koniving, 08 May 2014 - 07:33 PM.