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[Lumanil]

Since the last post about the possibility of an EU server was over an year ago, i'll have to ask again.

Will we get an EU server some day ?

Even with HSR the ping affects the overall gameplay greatly.
WIth high ping it is really hard to hit with ppcs and gauss and sometimes even with ACs.

I think lots of people already stepped away from playing MWO, because of the bad hit allocation caused by high ping. Maybe a few of them would come back, if they had a ping under 150+.

Edited by Egomane, 11 May 2014 - 12:22 PM.

[Jun Watarase]

Oh boy imagine how people in Australia feel.

Think about this logically. PGI can't afford to keep the test server running all the time....do you think they can afford to contact a EU server hosting company and host a server there, plus allocate GMs, etc for the EU server?

Even if they can, why would they do it, when they know that EU players will continue to give them money whether or not a EU server exists, and hosting a EU server costs money?

[Roland]

Lumanil, on 11 May 2014 - 11:11 AM, said:

Since the last post about the possibility of an EU server was over an year ago, i'll have to ask again.

Will we get an EU server some day ?

Q1 of 2013!

[Wieland]

In the past i would have said yes, because merc unit play would have needed it.
But, recent PGI comments on CW make me think we will not have regional servers.

[RG Notch]

LOL people think there are enough players to support regional servers... Well just check the player counter, oh they removed that to hide the low numbers. Well plan for regional servers 90 days after CW, or maybe 6 months after.

[Agent 0 Fortune]

Population x Paying Customers x Retention = % chance of localized servers.

But so you don't feel bad, Everyone was surprised to find out that that all non-revenue generating development had been halted pending a year long (2013) license extension negotiation between PGI/IGP and Microsoft.

Note: this is the inverse reason of why companies like Facebook pay billions of dollars for crappy companies like instagram and whatsapp, its not the value of the IP as much as the value of the followers. However unlike those situations, MS already owned Mechwarrior, so PGI/IGP had to devalue it in order to keep it. So no innovation, no EU/AUS servers, etc.

But now, they have 2.5 years of growth available (things will get bad in 2017 again), so this is the best opportunity for you EU guys to get a server so buy up those Clan Packs and Golden Snitches, just be careful of what you wish for, I know some of you guys like your lag-shield, and you will lose that with localized severs.

[Lumanil]

RG Notch, on 11 May 2014 - 01:17 PM, said:

LOL people think there are enough players to support regional servers... Well just check the player counter, oh they removed that to hide the low numbers. Well plan for regional servers 90 days after CW, or maybe 6 months after.

You shouldn't laugh about this, but think about why they don't have enough players left.

I always stop playing the game for month after about 10-20 matches, because i realize that i don't have a cance to get a fun experience with this ping.
I read about many people in game and in forums, which have a problem with the high ping and therefore left or will leave soon. So hopefully they will come back after getting a new server near their location.

I also didn't talk about regional servers, but did talk about ONE additional server. A EU server, which is placed well would be enough for even the most russian people to get a decent ping.

A new server isn't a big deal these days and wouldn't cost much. It doesn't have to be a big clusteres server farm like Eve's and has to only to do the math in 12 vs 12 matches and nothing more.

[RG Notch]

Lumanil, on 11 May 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

You shouldn't laugh about this, but think about why they don't have enough players left.

I always stop playing the game for month after about 10-20 matches, because i realize that i don't have a cance to get a fun experience with this ping.
I read about many people in game and in forums, which have a problem with the high ping and therefore left or will leave soon. So hopefully they will come back after getting a new server near their location.

I also didn't talk about regional servers, but did talk about ONE additional server. A EU server, which is placed well would be enough for even the most russian people to get a decent ping.

A new server isn't a big deal these days and wouldn't cost much. It doesn't have to be a big clusteres server farm like Eve's and has to only to do the math in 12 vs 12 matches and nothing more.

You're not following. It's not the cost, it's the fact that they would have 2 servers with even less players on each. This game's population is not growing. Look at what they have done with matchmaking to prevent long waits. Plus people are being drawn off to private matches. Growing healthy games add servers, that's why I doubt they are adding anything, unless you an pay real money to play on that server.

[Wolfways]

EU server? But what will the other 23 players do if i go offline?

[Lumanil]

RG Notch, on 11 May 2014 - 02:20 PM, said:

You're not following. It's not the cost, it's the fact that they would have 2 servers with even less players on each. This game's population is not growing. Look at what they have done with matchmaking to prevent long waits. Plus people are being drawn off to private matches. Growing healthy games add servers, that's why I doubt they are adding anything, unless you an pay real money to play on that server.

It is you, who is not following.
I'm telling you, that they have so few players BECAUSE OF one server.
They would have much more players, if players wouldn't be discouraged to play the game because they don't hit anything.
The games population would be growing, if people would feel they are doing fair fights.
I started playing this game with 7 friends. Right now, i'm the only one playing ( and i will stop again soon ).

It feels really bad when using a Jagermech with 2x Ac2 and 2x Ultra AC5 and wasting about 40% of my ammo into an Cataphract, which is running towards me. And all i do is getting his torso yellow, while i get killed in 3-4 shots.
Of course you can now say that i'm a noob and can't hit anything and i'm bad at aiming, but thats clearly not the truth.
Something is clearly wrong when i'm doing about 4times the damage with a cicada with m-lasers then i'm doing with an awesome with 3 er-ppcs.
That being said: I don't want to start a debate about weapon/mech nerv here. So please discuss this somewhere else. thnx

To say this again, we NEED an second server for the population to grow again.
Nobody would have played CS, if an AWP would hit 2sec later.

Better gameplay experience = more people will play

Edited by Lumanil, 11 May 2014 - 03:10 PM.

[RG Notch]

Lumanil, on 11 May 2014 - 03:08 PM, said:

It is you, who is not following.
I'm telling you, that they have so few players BECAUSE OF one server.
They would have much more players, if players wouldn't be discouraged to play the game because they don't hit anything.
The games population would be growing, if people would feel they are doing fair fights.
I started playing this game with 7 friends. Right now, i'm the only one playing ( and i will stop again soon ).

It feels really bad when using a Jagermech with 2x Ac2 and 2x Ultra AC5 and wasting about 40% of my ammo into an Cataphract, which is running towards me. And all i do is getting his torso yellow, while i get killed in 3-4 shots.
Of course you can now say that i'm a noob and can't hit anything and i'm bad at aiming, but thats clearly not the truth.
Something is clearly wrong when i'm doing about 4times the damage with a cicada with m-lasers then i'm doing with an awesome with 3 er-ppcs.
That being said: I don't want to start a debate about weapon/mech nerv here. So please discuss this somewhere else. thnx

To say this again, we NEED an second server for the population to grow again.
Nobody would have played CS, if an AWP would hit 2sec later.

Better gameplay experience = more people will play

Oh I get it, you think that's all that's keeping the game down. OK

[Chemie]

interesting Star Citizen plans on using "chards" of servers all over the globe which will dynamically respond to server load.

PGI runs a single dedicated server for the globe.

Both based on same engine.

Go figure.

[Hangfire]

A server on this si,,,,,,,,





,,,,,de of the atlantic would be nice,,,,,





Frikken LAG

[CycKath]

Lumanil, on 11 May 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

I also didn't talk about regional servers, but did talk about ONE additional server. A EU server, which is placed well would be enough for even the most russian people to get a decent ping.

Yeah, lets just throw us Oceania players under the bus because you believe EU players deserve lag reduction more.

[Randalf Yorgen]

CycKath, on 12 May 2014 - 03:08 PM, said:

Yeah, lets just throw us Oceania players under the bus because you believe EU players deserve lag reduction more.

just throw in it India like most Tech companies are doing. That way everyone not in NA will have a server close to their back yard. but not in it.

[Suko]

Lumanil, on 11 May 2014 - 11:11 AM, said:

Since the last post about the possibility of an EU server was over an year ago, i'll have to ask again.

Will we get an EU server some day ?

Even with HSR the ping affects the overall gameplay greatly.
WIth high ping it is really hard to hit with ppcs and gauss and sometimes even with ACs.

I think lots of people already stepped away from playing MWO, because of the bad hit allocation caused by high ping. Maybe a few of them would come back, if they had a ping under 150+.

I live in Washington State (3 hour drive from Vancouver, BC) and my ping averages 170 on weeknights. It didn't used to, but one day...BAM. It's been like that for about 2 or 3 months now. It sucks, but I now have the same ping as the guys across the pond.

Edited by ShadowVFX, 12 May 2014 - 03:42 PM.

[Deathlike]

ShadowVFX, on 12 May 2014 - 03:41 PM, said:

I live in Washington State (3 hour drive from Vancouver, BC) and my ping averages 170 on weeknights. It didn't used to, but one day...BAM. It's been like that for about 2 or 3 months now. It sucks, but I now have the same ping as the guys across the pond.

If you can find the node/router that's affecting your ping, you could try to resolve it that way.. but that would require a bit of effort.

[Green Mamba]

Numbers Of Player base would have to Warrant it and as there is No Player Counter anymore you will never know if it meets that criteria ..Obviously it would be good for those players and I would Love to know the Current Average Player Numbers

Edited by Green Mamba, 12 May 2014 - 08:44 PM.

[Sephlock]

Lumanil, on 11 May 2014 - 11:11 AM, said:

Since the last post about the possibility of an EU server was over an year ago, i'll have to ask again.

Will we get an EU server some day ?

Even with HSR the ping affects the overall gameplay greatly.
WIth high ping it is really hard to hit with ppcs and gauss and sometimes even with ACs.

I think lots of people already stepped away from playing MWO, because of the bad hit allocation caused by high ping. Maybe a few of them would come back, if they had a ping under 150+.

When will you guys finally break down and submit to the horror?

NO!

YOU CANNOT ESCAPE US!

AMERICA WILL ALWAYS HAUNT YOU, IN EVERYTHING YOU DO, EVERYWHERE YOU GO, NO MATTER WHAT. You turn on the TV? AMERICA! You hop on the internet? AMERICA! You play MechWarrior Online? AMERICA? (and yes, I know they're in Canada, but they're a part of America whether they admit it or not).

You want to watch the next big movie? AMERICA!

You want to go get some fast food? AMERICA!

You want some popular culture? AMERICA!



OH LOOk, THERE's AN AMERICAN ENGLISH VERSION OF THIS!



HUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA DANCE, PUPPETS, DANCE!

[AlexEss]

Ok a few things to consider.

A: If you are based in the EU and can´t hit *bleep* it is most likley one of two things.. either your ISP is a freebirth or your skills are not as good as you think they are. There is no guarantee that a regional server would solve this. This is coming form someone who have played on US servers for many years in different games and is currently placed in Sweden. I have no real problem hitting things since HSR came in to play.

B: EU servers require a EU provider such as P7S or similar since PGI does not have a EU office. It will most likley also require localization. These are expensive stuff... REALLY expensive stuff. That lead in to my finall point.

C; While a player counter would be nice, we are not the financial dept of IGP. They have the numbers they need and they can see if there is enough market to splurge on EU servers. My guess is... It is not.

Now Ocianian servers otoh would most likley be a good idea if it was not for the fact that the Gigamech(aka Gundam and friends) culture is much more popular then stuff like mech warrior. So again it is a big question if there is a big enough market to justify the spendings.

Also Euro servers are usually less lively then the US ones (in my experience)